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    Leaked video of Trump talking to RFK Jr about Vaccines and Assassination Attempt

    Supposedly posted by RFK Jr's son? I heard anyway.



    RFK claims it was done without permission.



    ...

    Kind of boring, like usual when Trump panders.
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    When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6



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    As usual, Trump doesn't seem to be able to focus, to get right down to the problem. And of course he won't go into his own culpability in the matter. I think you nailed it when you typed the word "panders".

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    As usual, Trump doesn't seem to be able to focus, to get right down to the problem. And of course he won't go into his own culpability in the matter. I think you nailed it when you typed the word "panders".
    I don’t agree. I remember how he tried to make available various ways to fight it. And he wasn’t the one that attempted to force the vaccine on us. Or, am I remembering incorrectly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    I don’t agree. I remember how he tried to make available various ways to fight it. And he wasn’t the one that attempted to force the vaccine on us. Or, am I remembering incorrectly?
    You are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    As usual, Trump doesn't seem to be able to focus, to get right down to the problem. And of course he won't go into his own culpability in the matter. I think you nailed it when you typed the word "panders".
    But he is focused. Laser focused.
    This was the day after the assassination attempt. The day he was handed a photo that a billion dollar PR firm couldn't have put together intentionally.
    This was a week after the media went through a whole cycle of throwing shade on Biden.

    Trump is laser focused on winning. He realized, probably before he got off that stage in Butler, that Biden is officially done. He literally can't win.

    This is a calculated move. He offers RFKjr a spot in his administration to do the thing he's passionate about - and simultaneously offers RFKjr a really big reason to get out of Trump's way and end any and all uncertainty about Trump's chances.

    So what if Trump said as recently as two weeks ago how proud he was of fast tracking the Covid vaccine? None of that mattered before - the Trump sycophants were totally willing to ignore that prior to any of this. Nobody cares how inconsistent this makes Trump any more than they care about how inconsistent he is about everything else.

    Except he's not inconsistent. He has his eyes on the goal: winning. It doesn't matter what he needs to say or do - he's going to stay focused on the only thing that matters to him, and he's going to win.
    WHAT THE F*** DID YOU THINK​ WAS GOING TO HAPPEN???

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    But he is focused. Laser focused.
    This was the day after the assassination attempt. The day he was handed a photo that a billion dollar PR firm couldn't have put together intentionally.
    Are you implying that he set this whole thing up? Possible, but timing that exact second where he turned his head so that the bullet wouldn’t go through his brain, would be rather risky, don’t you think?

    This was a week after the media went through a whole cycle of throwing shade on Biden.
    Yes, they want to replace him, or make it look that way.

    Trump is laser focused on winning. He realized, probably before he got off that stage in Butler, that Biden is officially done. He literally can't win.

    This is a calculated move. He offers RFKjr a spot in his administration to do the thing he's passionate about - and simultaneously offers RFKjr a really big reason to get out of Trump's way and end any and all uncertainty about Trump's chances.

    So what if Trump said as recently as two weeks ago how proud he was of fast tracking the Covid vaccine? None of that mattered before - the Trump sycophants were totally willing to ignore that prior to any of this. Nobody cares how inconsistent this makes Trump any more than they care about how inconsistent he is about everything else.

    Except he's not inconsistent. He has his eyes on the goal: winning. It doesn't matter what he needs to say or do - he's going to stay focused on the only thing that matters to him, and he's going to win.
    Yes, to accomplish anything, you have to win. Not run across the stage naked during a rare national telecast of your convention, or refuse to shake someone’s hand because you don’t like them, or attach something to your candidate that the candidate doesn’t believe, but YOU do, or throw snowballs at big media personalities that the majority of the people in the same Party that your candidate is in likes, etc.

    You have to win.

    Unfortunately, far too many on our team haven’t learned that.
    Last edited by LibertyEagle; 07-16-2024 at 11:24 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Yes, to accomplish anything, you have to win. Not run across the stage naked during a rare national telecast of your convention, or refuse to shake someone’s hand because you don’t like them, or attach something to your candidate that the candidate doesn’t believe, but YOU do, or throw snowballs at big media personalities that the majority of the people in the same Party that your candidate is in likes, etc.

    You have to win.

    Unfortunately, far too many on our team haven’t learned that.
    The only thing unfortunate is how many people here believe that adding 8 trillion+ to the national debt, fast tracking experimental and nonfunctional vaccines, locking the country down, and enacting gun control by executive order, is actually "winning".

    When you back a candidate that prioritizes winning over any principle, you get 8 trillion+ to the national debt, fast tracking experimental and nonfunctional vaccines, locking the country down, and enacting gun control by executive order.

    When Trump is reelected in a landslide, we're all going to get 8 trillion+ to the national debt, fast tracking experimental and nonfunctional vaccines, locking the country down, and enacting gun control by executive order.

    Enjoy your win. I don't expect you to understand what the problem is. I do expect you to understand that there is a problem, and that if I get increasingly vitriolic with people who don't even understand that this is a problem, I expect you not to act injured.
    WHAT THE F*** DID YOU THINK​ WAS GOING TO HAPPEN???

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    The only thing unfortunate is how many people here believe that adding 8 trillion+ to the national debt, fast tracking experimental and nonfunctional vaccines, locking the country down, and enacting gun control by executive order, is actually "winning".

    When you back a candidate that prioritizes winning over any principle, you get 8 trillion+ to the national debt, fast tracking experimental and nonfunctional vaccines, locking the country down, and enacting gun control by executive order.

    When Trump is reelected in a landslide, we're all going to get 8 trillion+ to the national debt, fast tracking experimental and nonfunctional vaccines, locking the country down, and enacting gun control by executive order.

    Enjoy your win. I don't expect you to understand what the problem is. I do expect you to understand that there is a problem, and that if I get increasingly vitriolic with people who don't even understand that this is a problem, I expect you not to act injured.
    I have never claimed Trump was the second coming. I know he isn’t. But, none of our guys are in this race. What to do? Not vote? They prefer that. Or, vote for who you think will do the least damage?

    You make your decision and I will make mine. But, I stand by what I said. We can have the perfect candidate, but if they don’t win, they can’t make any changes. Yes, i know RP changed some minds by running, even though a lot of them either didn’t vote or became Bernie Bros. But, there aren’t many RPs out there with many decades of support.

    I KNOW there are a whole lot of problems. Probably one hell of a lot better than you do. When Trump was President, I got kicked out of every group there was when he let Pompeo get involved in Venezuela. I am going to vote. Not absolutely sure whether it will be for RFK Jr, but I doubt it. His domestic policy is horrible and I don’t trust him on Supreme Court appointees. I will likely vote for Trump and then do my best to hold him accountable. I really wish we had someone like Thomas Massie to vote for, BUT WE DON’T!!!!

    Now please get your panties out of a wad. I am not your enemy.
    Last edited by LibertyEagle; 07-16-2024 at 01:29 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    So what's your solution to this problem?

    Don't vote or just vote some somebody who can't win?

    I'm certainly not giving consent to one of the two preselected candidates. It's not a difficult concept, nor is it difficult to do.

    I know some folks who get severe jitters and not able to sleep at night unless they cast a vote. They are the same ones who run around saying "wtf did I just do?".

    Nah, I'll let you "voters" figure it out. Then when another $14 Trillion [adjusted] is spent, I will at least have clean hands. Meanwhile I'll continue to practice Tom Massie: "Noncompliance Is More Effective Than Voting".


    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    The only thing unfortunate is how many people here believe that adding 8 trillion+ to the national debt, fast tracking experimental and nonfunctional vaccines, locking the country down, and enacting gun control by executive order, is actually "winning".

    When you back a candidate that prioritizes winning over any principle, you get 8 trillion+ to the national debt, fast tracking experimental and nonfunctional vaccines, locking the country down, and enacting gun control by executive order.

    When Trump is reelected in a landslide, we're all going to get 8 trillion+ to the national debt, fast tracking experimental and nonfunctional vaccines, locking the country down, and enacting gun control by executive order.

    Enjoy your win. I don't expect you to understand what the problem is. I do expect you to understand that there is a problem, and that if I get increasingly vitriolic with people who don't even understand that this is a problem, I expect you not to act injured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    I don’t agree. I remember how he tried to make available various ways to fight it. And he wasn’t the one that attempted to force the vaccine on us. Or, am I remembering incorrectly?
    Nope.

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    You could hear where he was going.

    Trump would love an AR ban.

  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    You could hear where he was going.

    Trump would love an AR ban.
    Hoping his eldest hunter son educates him. It was a freaking 22.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Hoping his eldest hunter son educates him. It was a freaking 22.
    What was a 22?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    What was a 22?
    Wasn’t that the caliber of bullet shot at Trump? .22
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  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Wasn’t that the caliber of bullet shot at Trump? .22
    No, 5.56 from an AR15

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Wasn’t that the caliber of bullet shot at Trump? .22
    The only thing I've heard was speculation, and the only person I've seen speculating it was that is Anti Federalist.



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    The only thing I've heard was speculation, and the only person I've seen speculating it was that is Anti Federalist.
    I've heard other people speculating on that as well, but I think that was based on the sound. The problem is that that sound we were hearing was filtered to listen to a speech and eliminate crowd noise and the gunshots were 150 yards away.

    FBI special agent in charge Kevin Rojek said Crooks used an AR-style rifle chambered in 5.56mm - I have no reason to doubt that. I personally heard from people at the event that there was no way it was a .22.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    I've heard other people speculating on that as well, but I think that was based on the sound. The problem is that that sound we were hearing was filtered to listen to a speech and eliminate crowd noise and the gunshots were 150 yards away.

    FBI special agent in charge Kevin Rojek said Crooks used an AR-style rifle chambered in 5.56mm - I have no reason to doubt that. I personally heard from people at the event that there was no way it was a .22.
    A 5.56 technically does shoot a .22 caliber bullet, so the statement is actually correct. Granted a .22lr and a 5.56 or .223 have completely different ballistics, but they are still both .22 caliber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Wasn’t that the caliber of bullet shot at Trump? .22
    I don’t know if that has been confirmed. But I personally doubt it.

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    It will be interesting to see if RFK Jr ends up endorsing Trump, which is an instant election win moment for Trump, in exchange for a cabinet appointment.

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    Your votes won't be enough. The Democrats will find the votes and keep counting until they do.
    You see folks, that is a reason to allow illegals to vote. This way when more people vote than citizens it can easily be explained.
    SCOTUS will say you have no standing.
    4 years to fix problems at the polls and what has been done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Your votes won't be enough. The Democrats will find the votes and keep counting until they do.
    You see folks, that is a reason to allow illegals to vote. This way when more people vote than citizens it can easily be explained.
    SCOTUS will say you have no standing.
    4 years to fix problems at the polls and what has been done?

    So you still believe there is a difference up at the WH. Wow.
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    What's the position Trump is offering Kennedy?

  27. #24
    For a long time, the candidates we have been given to vote for, have been pre-selected. Everyone who read Carroll Quigley’s “Tragedy and Hope” has known that for many years. Trump may be too, but there is the distinct possibility that he is not. Because he had the name recognition from the outset. I still don’t know for sure. What I do know is that he wouldn’t know the Constitution if it hit him upside the head, he has no comprehension of the proper role of government or self-government. That is why I was so glad Rand was able to get in his ear. Whether he is controlled opposition or someone who is lacking knowledge on many levels, but honestly wants to help our country, I don’t know. If he is controlled opposition, TPTB sure have gone to great lengths to mask it.

    As far as standing against the things you mention, I can walk and chew gum at the same time. Someone IS going to be President. Since we do not have a RP or Massie to vote for, I would prefer whomever I think will do the least damage.
    Last edited by LibertyEagle; 07-16-2024 at 09:48 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blaster668 View Post
    A 5.56 technically does shoot a .22 caliber bullet, so the statement is actually correct. Granted a .22lr and a 5.56 or .223 have completely different ballistics, but they are still both .22 caliber.
    No. You wouldn't say a .38 and a .357 was the same, yet most guns designed for .357 will fire a .38 round. Most .223/5.56 weapons can't handle the tiny ass of a .22 or .22LR round. The firing pin can't pop the cap. That makes it hard for me to call it the same thing.

    Girth isn't everything. These aren't muzzleloaders where you can put as much powder behind the ball as you dare.



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