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Thread: Trump picks Ohio senator J.D. Vance as VP candidate

  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    thx to Ron Paul, i learned about Gold. But then realized Gold was not a practical solution. Fraudulent, Heavy, Cannot hide while moving.

    So when I learned about Bitcoin I should have bought more. Much more.

    Anyone holding Bitcoin couldn't care less about spending. His asset is going up anyways. Some will say stocks. I don't like stocks. I cannot hold the private keys and the supply is shady. Anyone can issue more shares.

    Once everyone is on the Bitcoin boat.. you will have financial accountability by default forced on governments.
    And do either you or Trump care about people who don't have your advantages? Some old guy who didn't stray outside the approved 401k/IRA restrictions because he was trying to pay less tax can just watch prices spiral and tough it out; Trump wants to give a billion to Pfizer?
    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Yeah, well, you've already collected as many flies with vinegar as you're gonna.



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  3. #62
    Well there goes the idea that Trump's running mate is the presumptive nominee for 2028. He's definitely not somebody I can look at and say "Yeah I can totally imagine him being the next VP."
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Rand AND Massie are endorsing this dude...?

    I dunno.
    It kind of makes one pause doesn't it? I wasn't a big fan of this pic.
    "The Patriarch"

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    And do either you or Trump care about people who don't have your advantages? Some old guy who didn't stray outside the approved 401k/IRA restrictions because he was trying to pay less tax can just watch prices spiral and tough it out; Trump wants to give a billion to Pfizer?
    Unless your broker is anti Bitcoin, you can buy Bitcoin in your 401k thanks to Black Rock. Please watch larry fink in my last link. Himself was a big skeptic.. Larry is to Bitcoin what Trump is to JD Vance.

    Change your broker if you cannot buy Bitcoin ETFs.

    https://x.com/MichaelDell/status/1812895900068442621



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  7. #65
    Trump wants to give a billion to Pfizer?
    Biden just gave 100 billions to Zelensky poof.

    Any party in power will give money.. Because they can and because we cannot do ANYTHING about it.

    You have to change the rules of the game. I am sorry about the old chaps like you. At least Bitcoin can give them hope that this fraud will end. Bitcoin is my only hope for actual real change in how things are played.

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    Unless your broker is anti Bitcoin, you can buy Bitcoin in your 401k thanks to Black Rock. Please watch larry fink in my last link. Himself was a big skeptic.. Larry is to Bitcoin what Trump is to JD Vance.

    Change your broker if you cannot buy Bitcoin ETFs.

    https://x.com/MichaelDell/status/1812895900068442621
    So the Fed doesn't bother you at all?
    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Yeah, well, you've already collected as many flies with vinegar as you're gonna.

  9. #67
    It could have been worse. Trump could have picked Kristi Noem

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    So the Fed doesn't bother you at all?
    what do you mean?

    If you mean.. do I trust ETFs for holding actual Bitcoin? currently I do. While you cannot easily audit gold reserves, auditing Bitcoin reserves is trivial and therefore can be
    collectively requested. Also Spot ETFs are heavily regulated. This aspect I trust. It all comes down the digital audit nature of Bitcoin

    But as an individual, I go the hard way and tell anyone with computer abilities to self custody their Bitcoins. But old chaps like you said, they need to buy ETFs..

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    what do you mean?
    The transfer of wealth from the working stiffs to the six wealthiest banks doesn't trouble you at all? Infinite funding for killing people wholesale with jabs and bombs is hunky dory? People who can't arrange to be paid in bitcoin and get raises all the time can just take their automatic pay cuts as the dollar slowly crashes?

    All that is fine with you?
    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Yeah, well, you've already collected as many flies with vinegar as you're gonna.

  12. #70
    I am still unsure of this pick.
    Again seems mostly ok despite the industry insiders but we shall see.

  13. #71
    So, did a little research as I literally did not know who this guy was, though I feel like I had heard his name thrown around.

    So he grew up lower-middle class.
    Joined marines.
    I assume GI billed his way through Yale (which means his IQ is high).
    Met an Indian chick who he married and who clerked for John Roberts.
    Graduated in 2013.
    Wrote Hillbilly Elegy in 2016 which sounds like a boring ripoff of themes outlined in Thomas Sowell's "White Liberals and Black Rednecks".
    Then got bankrolled by 213th richest man in the world who made him partner in venture capital firm.
    Converts to Catholicism (wife remains Brahmin Hindu but 'supports him').
    Billionaire then bankrolls his senate run (along with 180K from AIPAC).
    Spends less than two years in Senate and is now VP pick.

    ...amazing grass roots story. Just like Obama.
    When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble?
    When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6

  14. #72
    Surprised we even got Trump's running mate today. I was expecting we wouldn't find out till the end of the week.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge



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  16. #73
    Let's be honest, a Tulsi Gabbard or Ben Carson pick would have drawn more minorities and showed us that Trump is willing to take those gambles.

    Vance is fairly boring, but also doesn't quite have the background that can be picked apart. He's also young and has Silicon Valley ties, which I don't think is a good thing. But, it could be Trump trying to get more of the "techy" crowd or something, I'm not sure.

    Then again, it could also be just as simple as Trump thinking Vance is popular, has potential, and helps him in a battleground swing state like Ohio. Trump did say he'll put Vance on the ground in Ohio, Wisconsin, etc.

    Without thinking that Vance is awful (because I don't know enough about him), Trump has always sucked at picking those around him in politics.
    Welcome to the R3VOLUTION!

  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by wizardwatson View Post
    So, did a little research as I literally did not know who this guy was, though I feel like I had heard his name thrown around.

    So he grew up lower-middle class.
    Joined marines.
    I assume GI billed his way through Yale (which means his IQ is high).
    Met an Indian chick who he married and who clerked for John Roberts.
    Graduated in 2013.
    Wrote Hillbilly Elegy in 2016 which sounds like a boring ripoff of themes outlined in Thomas Sowell's "White Liberals and Black Rednecks".
    Then got bankrolled by 213th richest man in the world who made him partner in venture capital firm.
    Converts to Catholicism (wife remains Brahmin Hindu but 'supports him').
    Billionaire then bankrolls his senate run (along with 180K from AIPAC).
    Spends less than two years in Senate and is now VP pick.

    ...amazing grass roots story. Just like Obama.
    Dang, you hit that nail right on the head.
    Welcome to the R3VOLUTION!

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Let's say it like this... AT LEAST IT ISN'T RUBIO
    Yea thank god. I read a headline somewhere that said trump picks Rubio. Maybe I completely misread it, but I threw up in my mouth. Then later I heard Vance. I don’t know much about him except I remember seeing him and liking his stance on a few hearings. Can’t remember the subjects but my impression was positive without knowing him well.
    No - No - No - No
    2016

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://x.com/RandPaul/status/1812939497031549090
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://x.com/MassieforKY/status/1812930050376782055
    Interesting... A Rand and Massie endorsement??


    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    This Trump IS the swamp.

    He literally packed his cabinet and administration with lobbyists and industry insiders.

    Other than the border, WTF did he do?
    He met with Kim Jong Un and tried to cool relations.
    He didn't overly expand our existing wars anymore than his predecessors.
    He began the Afghanistan withdrawal.
    He pissed a lot of establishment D.C. creatures off for a variety of reasons.

    I used to have a slightly longer list than this when people asked this question but I've forgotten everything else now. And no, I'm not saying these things in defense of him, per se. I do think he was leagues better than Bush, Obama and Biden, however.
    Welcome to the R3VOLUTION!

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    You'll notice the trend of supporting any and all spending. And that's when Republicans are out of power.

    His voting record would be dramatically worse if he'd had more than one year to accumulate votes.
    Yep, and that's the ultimate test of a Congresscritter's fidelity to the issues... how they vote when their own party is in power.
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  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Okie RP fan View Post
    Interesting... A Rand and Massie endorsement??




    He met with Kim Jong Un and tried to cool relations.
    He didn't overly expand our existing wars anymore than his predecessors.
    He began the Afghanistan withdrawal.
    He pissed a lot of establishment D.C. creatures off for a variety of reasons.

    I used to have a slightly longer list than this when people asked this question but I've forgotten everything else now. And no, I'm not saying these things in defense of him, per se. I do think he was leagues better than Bush, Obama and Biden, however.
    We shall see..
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 07-15-2024 at 08:56 PM.

  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://x.com/RandPaul/status/1812939497031549090
    Sure....Mike Johnson was a darling too...until "Muh classified briefings"

  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by wizardwatson View Post
    So, did a little research as I literally did not know who this guy was, though I feel like I had heard his name thrown around.

    So he grew up lower-middle class.
    Joined marines.
    I assume GI billed his way through Yale (which means his IQ is high).
    Met an Indian chick who he married and who clerked for John Roberts.
    Graduated in 2013.
    Wrote Hillbilly Elegy in 2016 which sounds like a boring ripoff of themes outlined in Thomas Sowell's "White Liberals and Black Rednecks".
    Then got bankrolled by 213th richest man in the world who made him partner in venture capital firm.
    Converts to Catholicism (wife remains Brahmin Hindu but 'supports him').
    Billionaire then bankrolls his senate run (along with 180K from AIPAC).
    Spends less than two years in Senate and is now VP pick.

    ...amazing grass roots story. Just like Obama.
    He never held any other politician positions prior to being in the Senate? I could have sworn he was a member of Congress. Unless I'm confusing him with somebody else.
    Last edited by Anti Globalist; 07-15-2024 at 09:29 PM.
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  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    He never held any other politician positions prior to being in the Senate? I could have sworn he was a member of Congress. Unless I'm confusing him with somebody else.
    Nope. Obama was a statesmen by comparison, serving as Illinois state senator from 1997-2004 before being sworn into U.S. senate in 2005.
    When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble?
    When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Okie RP fan View Post
    Let's be honest, a Tulsi Gabbard or Ben Carson pick would have drawn more minorities and showed us that Trump is willing to take those gambles.
    ...
    Actually, one thing the pick of JD Vance does is show that Trump is not bowing down to DEI pressure...
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    this

    vivake was the right choice
    We can have anyone we want, as long as they are or are married to WEF tied Indians or Chinese.


    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    So what's your bubba going to do to give us some relief from rising prices, from this massive wealth transfer to the top, which he himself sent out of control? What does this guy you think loves us and wants us to be happy intend to do to put us back on our feet? I don't even hear him talking about it.

    Kicking aliens out won't fix that. You're not concerned about the spending. How did you insulate yourself from the Currency Devaluation Tax, then? You can't ignore the one without ignoring the other; if you can ignore the other won't you tell us how?
    Ignore Mordan. That handle is based overseas in the Balkans somewhere, proven on the huge Bitcoin pumper thread in the crypto subforum (search for yourself). Vance is a crypto/CBDC tool, which is set to be introduced shortly after Donald is formally selected, so it's not surprising at all that the Mordan handle shows up promoting the "coiner" as VP now.

    (btw I posted this^^^^ before I even read Mordan's posts inserting bitcoin into the thread)
    Last edited by devil21; 07-16-2024 at 01:05 AM.
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    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  29. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The concern here being that it seems like Vance didn't vote against spending when he should have...but that's a plus to Trump...
    Ya , not good , Gop needed a fiscal conservative VP if want to compete after this election if they win . Didnt do it is fail
    Last edited by oyarde; 07-16-2024 at 06:44 AM.
    Do something Danke

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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Both of those are sarcastic.

    He's mocking the firing of nurses in the first one, and vaccine & mask mandates in the second one.

  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Okie RP fan View Post
    I do think he was leagues better than Bush, Obama and Biden, however.
    Condemning with mighty faint praise.

    They've been lowering our standards and expectations for many years.

    It worked.

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