By far Carson a better pick, probably not interested in it , I could see wy notOriginally Posted by spudea
Last edited by oyarde; 07-15-2024 at 02:39 PM.
Do something Danke
hmm.
Norman Ornstein — who is an emeritus scholar at the Koch-funded American Enterprise Institute — said that Vance "is not a leader."
"He is a pandering, cowardly, disgraceful lickspittle to Trump and and Putin," he said Saturday. "That he would say this is a true reflection of who he is."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ts/ar-BB1pWxD1
"When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch
I don't think so. I don't think the Vance pick really hurts in the long run. It will make for some laughs when the Democrats bring up Vance's past statements in their ads. But I don't see any really damage to the Trump faithful. Trump is already averaging 3 points ahead and is going to get a big bump from near death. Barring an October surprise I think he has it won.
This could be a interesting choice we shall see.
I dont like the pick over the Israeli support.
But American govt would be countered with Euporean Leftists so they cant throw in heavy support to Israel as they would have hoped.
Vance's voting record:
https://thenewamerican.com/freedom-i...lator/v000137/
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Only a few state matter , better pick wouldve elped in em
Do something Danke
At least he voted yes with Rand Paul a few times?
this
vivake was the right choice
FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!
why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide
Baptiste said.
At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?
"He's more of an isolationist than Trump. He was quoted as saying 'I don't care what happens to Ukraine'." - Rove
Thanks Karl, sounds good to me!
I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.
everyone can think about this and decide for themselves.
it's complicated. i do think Vance being from Ohio was the kicker.
pretty soon the ball will go back to the Democrats when Not Biden is nominated.
"When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch
Does it show that people that didn't get along can mend their fence and get along?
I'm not sure Trump even needs it. He's going to get a huge bump from not getting killed and the Biden campaign is in free fall.
Virginia & Georgia need tp be filled in Red
Let's say it like this... AT LEAST IT ISN'T RUBIO
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This is nothing new. Ted Cruz once described Trump as a “pathological liar,” “utterly amoral,” and “a narcissist at a level I don’t think this country’s ever seen” and then once Trump became President turned into a Trump sycophant. Too often power triumphs over principle.
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Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
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not the worst pick
imagine Nicky Haley... now that would have meant Trump was full of $#@!.
Better than Heley, but I would've preferred Ramaswamy.
I've tried to track some of the important votes, and it appears that Vance votes with Rand most of the time.
There was one vote on a Rand Paul Amendment, and Vance sat it out. It was a 4th Amendment related vote:
https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/pr...t-for-sale-act
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JD Vance was 4th best in Senate according to the Republican Liberty Caucus Scorecard:
https://rlc.org/rand-paul-scores-100...liberty-index/
1. Rand Paul
2. Mike Braun
3. Mike Lee
4. JD Vance
Tim Scott, on the other hand, was one of the worst in the Senate. Only Romney was worse.
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"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
The concern here being that it seems like Vance didn't vote against spending when he should have...but that's a plus to Trump...
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
Spending is not a concern to me anymore. Its beyond saving and you would save money pointlessly as the democrats or RINO would spend it all next time they take power.
The system is beyond saving. There is no more financial accountability unless the system is changed completely.
So what's your bubba going to do to give us some relief from rising prices, from this massive wealth transfer to the top, which he himself sent out of control? What does this guy you think loves us and wants us to be happy intend to do to put us back on our feet? I don't even hear him talking about it.
Kicking aliens out won't fix that. You're not concerned about the spending. How did you insulate yourself from the Currency Devaluation Tax, then? You can't ignore the one without ignoring the other; if you can ignore the other won't you tell us how?
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This Trump IS the swamp.
He literally packed his cabinet and administration with lobbyists and industry insiders.
Other than the border, WTF did he do?
"An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.
"To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."
Rand AND Massie are endorsing this dude...?
I dunno.
"An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.
"To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."
You'll notice the trend of supporting any and all spending. And that's when Republicans are out of power.
His voting record would be dramatically worse if he'd had more than one year to accumulate votes.
thx to Ron Paul, i learned about Gold. But then realized Gold was not a practical solution. Fraudulent, Heavy, Cannot hide while moving.How did you insulate yourself from the Currency Devaluation Tax, then
So when I learned about Bitcoin I should have bought more. Much more.
Anyone holding Bitcoin couldn't care less about spending. His asset is going up anyways. Some will say stocks. I don't like stocks. I cannot hold the private keys and the supply is shady. Anyone can issue more shares.
Once everyone is on the Bitcoin boat.. you will have financial accountability by default forced on governments.
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