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  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Both of those are sarcastic.

    He's mocking the firing of nurses in the first one, and vaccine & mask mandates in the second one.

    You right.
    Last edited by unknown; 07-16-2024 at 07:07 AM.



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  3. #92
    WTF?





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    Last edited by unknown; 07-16-2024 at 04:24 AM.

  4. #93
    @Swordsmyth You seem like the Expert on Everything regarding Trump. What are your thoughts on his choice of VP?

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  6. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    This jackwagon is a self-described Communist and ought to be deported. No one should really care what he thinks.

    Anyways, yeah. JD is a big Israel guy. Can anyone name one realistic choice that wouldn't be?

  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Both of those are sarcastic.

    He's mocking the firing of nurses in the first one, and vaccine & mask mandates in the second one.
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  9. #97
    I don't trust Vance...

    1- Naturally anyone who comes to prominence that quickly is suspect to me.

    2- He likes to vote for spending bills

    3- He changed his abortion stance recently to match Trump's

    4- People I know, that know him and his staff on the Hill, say that his staff are all followers of Oren Cass a devout socialist/collectivist.



    Hopefully I'm proven wrong but I'm thinking he doesn't have any solid ideology.
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  10. #98
    He's not of legal age to be president, so how can he be vice president and be the next in the chain of command.

    That said, Paul and Massie like him, the usual mob of swampers hate him, so that makes him OK in my book until I see otherwise.
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  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    I don't trust Vance...

    1- Naturally anyone who comes to prominence that quickly is suspect to me.

    2- He likes to vote for spending bills

    3- He changed his abortion stance recently to match Trump's

    4- People I know, that know him and his staff on the Hill, say that his staff are all followers of Oren Cass a devout socialist/collectivist.



    Hopefully I'm proven wrong but I'm thinking he doesn't have any solid ideology.
    1 and 2 are concerning to me, too. 3 is just marketing. 4 is a bit of guilt by association.

    As for not having a solid ideology, that should suit Trump perfectly!
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  12. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Seems to be a Hawk.
    I hope Rand Paul retake backs his support for Vance


    I have no doubt that Kunsher was likely behind the decision to go with JD Vance as his main pick.
    https://x.com/infolibnews/status/1813061534009934139

  13. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    He's not of legal age to be president, so how can he be vice president and be the next in the chain of command.

    That said, Paul and Massie like him, the usual mob of swampers hate him, so that makes him OK in my book until I see otherwise.
    He's 39 and will be 40 by election day. You only need to be 35.
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  14. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    He's not of legal age to be president, so how can he be vice president and be the next in the chain of command.

    That said, Paul and Massie like him, the usual mob of swampers hate him, so that makes him OK in my book until I see otherwise.
    That said, Paul and Massie like him
    For now but so far there are videos of him coming out showing his a hawk he wants a war with Iran.
    Sorry i truly hate this pick.
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 07-16-2024 at 09:39 AM.

  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by familydog View Post
    This jackwagon is a self-described Communist and ought to be deported. No one should really care what he thinks.

    Anyways, yeah. JD is a big Israel guy. Can anyone name one realistic choice that wouldn't be?
    If maybe not starting a war with Iran or regime change agaisnt Iran or using Sunnis agaisnt Shia because that had being tried and resulted in very escalating tensions in the middle east.

    You have the Saudis and i dont think the Saudis would be happy if Israeli forces continue on killing innocent civilians in Gaza and in palestine..

    How is Vance and Trump going to convince Saudis to support? just threaten the Saudis and let them their killings because hamas started it?


    Its been almost a year now since Oct 7.
    Israel has been targeting nothing but civilians with airstrikes and Israel has faced casualties as well.
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 07-16-2024 at 09:36 AM.

  16. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    That said, Paul and Massie like him, the usual mob of swampers hate him, so that makes him OK in my book until I see otherwise.
    Rand's endorsements mean nothing. Remember some of the people he has supported in the past...
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  18. #105
    This guy is like black mold:

    Everything seems fine until you find a small curious spot.

    Then the more you dig, the more you find until you realize that you have a major problem.

    This guy is not a life insurance policy for Trump.

  19. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Rand's endorsements mean nothing. Remember some of the people he has supported in the past...
    It's a good indicator that said individual is a Republican. Otherwise, no, he plays the endorsement game just like his dad did. Can't work to fix things if you can't stay in the workshop.

  20. #107
    Most Presidential candidates choose their running mate, based on how much they think that running mate will help them get votes.

    JFK hated Johnson, but picked him because he thought it would help him do better in Texas.
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  21. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Seems to be a Hawk.
    I hope Rand Paul retake backs his support for Vance


    I have no doubt that Kunsher was likely behind the decision to go with JD Vance as his main pick.
    https://x.com/infolibnews/status/1813061534009934139
    He literally says in that video the better way to counter Iran is thru diplomacy.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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  22. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    It's a good indicator that said individual is a Republican. Otherwise, no, he plays the endorsement game just like his dad did. Can't work to fix things if you can't stay in the workshop.
    No... when Ron was in Congress he didn't have much of a choice because he wasn't powerful enough to withstand a full push against him. This is not an apples-to-apples comparison.

    Rand however is powerful enough that he doesn't have to worry about them squeezing him out and has been since day 1. Thus any bad endorsements he has made were completely unnecessary.
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  23. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    No... when Ron was in Congress he didn't have much of a choice because he wasn't powerful enough to withstand a full push against him. This is not an apples-to-apples comparison.

    Rand however is powerful enough that he doesn't have to worry about them squeezing him out and has been since day 1. Thus any bad endorsements he has made were completely unnecessary.
    Whatever you say, though not really. For one thing, he's not unassailable. For another, this can get him votes here and there. Even your omniscient ass can't know for sure unless he stops doing it.

    In the end, he wouldn't be the first son to do certain things the way hid dad always did.

  24. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    He literally says in that video the better way to counter Iran is thru diplomacy.
    Yeah by threatening Iranians withdraw from Syria and whole middle east? good luck with that.

  25. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    He's 39 and will be 40 by election day. You only need to be 35.
    Ah, of course...my mistake, thanks
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  27. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Condemning with mighty faint praise.

    They've been lowering our standards and expectations for many years.

    It worked.
    That's exactly what it was: condemning with mighty faint praise.
    I'm aware, sadly. Nothing you said was incorrect.
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  28. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post


    Nearly everyone goes to the damn Wailing Wall. You have to choose your battles wisely.
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  29. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    He's not of legal age to be president, so how can he be vice president and be the next in the chain of command.

    That said, Paul and Massie like him, the usual mob of swampers hate him, so that makes him OK in my book until I see otherwise.
    Please tell me you didn't believe the Three Year Letterman tweet posted earlier in this thread??? PlEaSe?


    eta: I see your correction. That is a satire account that intentionally $#@!s up historical "facts" to sound authoritative while being supremely ignorant. That's why it's a hilarious account in the first place.
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  30. #116
    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #297:

    Who is J.D. Vance and What Does He Really Believe?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDNeEusa9oA
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    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 07-17-2024 at 05:31 AM.

  31. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Please tell me you didn't believe the Three Year Letterman tweet posted earlier in this thread??? PlEaSe?


    eta: I see your correction. That is a satire account that intentionally $#@!s up historical "facts" to sound authoritative while being supremely ignorant. That's why it's a hilarious account in the first place.
    I'll admit I read it somewhere as a repost and didn't check the constitution for the exact age requirement, so it stuck in my brain.

    I $#@!ed up, but yeah, I admitted it.
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  32. #118
    It was between this guy and Rubio, WTF?

  33. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    He's not of legal age to be president, so how can he be vice president and be the next in the chain of command.

    That said, Paul and Massie like him, the usual mob of swampers hate him, so that makes him OK in my book until I see otherwise.
    You have to be at least 35 or older to run for President. William Jennings Bryan was the Democratic nominee for the 1896 election and he was 36.
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    At 1:05 the newscaster says, "He joined the Marines right out of highschool which is crazy...". What's crazy about that? Naive, most likely, but crazy? Seeking adventure is what young men are wired for.

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