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  1. #31
    https://x.com/BorisJohnson/status/1813284028298240086

    I have no doubt that he will be strong and decisive in supporting that country and defending democracy.
    I am sure all those critical minerals will be very important.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    https://x.com/BorisJohnson/status/1813284028298240086



    I am sure all those critical minerals will be very important.
    If I hear that out of Trump’s mouth, that would be it for me. But, thus far all I have heard is the opposite.
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    If I hear that out of Trump’s mouth, that would be it for me. But, thus far all I have heard is the opposite.
    What, like ending the Fed, ridding the IRS, local [not federal] solutions are best? I haven’t heard a single thing mentioned about those issues. Thus far all I have heard is the opposite.
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    What, like ending the Fed, ridding the IRS, local [not federal] solutions are best? I haven’t heard a single thing mentioned about those issues. Thus far all I have heard is the opposite.
    Yes, I would much prefer that too. Newsflash: there is no one running to get rid of the FED. The one thing we may get to get, although if they really move to do it, I think they will be offed, is ending forever wars. Starting with getting us the hell out of involvement with Ukraine, in any way.

    But, if you can make a candidate appear that has those positions you mention, be sure to tell me. In the meantime, I plan to vote for whomever I think will do the least damage.
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    But he wasn't given a speaking slot at the convention, I assume.
    No. Though, there were some funny moments when some old white-haired ladies were curious to know how the piercing in his forehead was done. I'm sure they had never seen anything quite like him at a republican convention.

    As for the RNC speakers on Monday, I thought the Teamster's union guy's speech was more cringey, for some reason. I'm not sure that it means I'm against workers, but as he was speaking, I kept hearing "eat the rich." Like maybe he went a little overboard.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    No. Though, there were some funny moments when some old white-haired ladies were curious to know how the piercing in his forehead was done. I'm sure they had never seen anything quite like him at a republican convention.

    As for the RNC speakers on Monday, I thought the Teamster's union guy's speech was more cringey, for some reason. I'm not sure that it means I'm against workers, but as he was speaking, I kept hearing "eat the rich." Like maybe he went a little overboard.
    I kept thinking of the Communist hammer and sickle.
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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Yes, I would much prefer that too. Newsflash: there is no one running to get rid of the FED. The one thing we may get to get, although if they really move to do it, I think they will be offed, is ending forever wars. Starting with getting us the hell out of involvement with Ukraine, in any way.

    But, if you can make a candidate appear that has those positions you mention, be sure to tell me. In the meantime, I plan to vote for whomever I think will do the least damage.

    Newsflash: if you keep doing the same thing, you’ll keep getting the same results. Isn’t your head getting sore from beating it against that same wall over and over?
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  11. #39
    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #298:

    From the RNC: Michael Tracey Interviews Reps. Spartz and Lawler and Former Gov. Scott Walker
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wJoM4q9uz0
    {Glenn Greenwald | 16 July 2024}


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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Newsflash: if you keep doing the same thing, you’ll keep getting the same results. Isn’t your head getting sore from beating it against that same wall over and over?
    Is your solution, then, to not vote at all until we get a real Libertarian candidate? In the meantime, Clinton-types could well swoop in and do immeasurable damage while you wouldn’t even try to mitigate it by voting for the lesser evil?

    In this particular election, there is no truly liberty-minded candidate. But we can do what we can to stop supporting these foreign wars, for example.

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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by A. Havnes View Post
    In the meantime, Clinton-types could well swoop in and do immeasurable damage while you wouldn’t even try to mitigate it by voting for the lesser evil?
    It has been so much fun watching people trying to slow the decline the last fifty years by voting for the party that evil on this half of the issues or the party that's evil on that half of the issues. It has been so much fun watching both parties do "bipartisan compromises" and cave on the issues they ran on promises to protect. It has been so much fun watching people make excuses for their party completely failing to serve the interests of We, the People. It has been so much fun watching big government screw up on purpose so one party or the other can screech, "This is the most important election evarrr!!"

    This is where that road led to. This is the only place that road could possibly have led to. And here you are like Captain Smith on the bridge of the Titanic hollering, "Stay the course!"

    Well, that what this ship of fools is going to do. But I don't have to pretend like there's not a hundred foot gash in the hull and it's taking on water. And I don't have to pretend like hitting that iceberg again will undo the damage.

    Does anyone want to save this country? Or is bailing water so it doesn't sink quite as quickly all anyone cares about? Because it's not too soon to reject this uniparty they falsely label a "two party system".
    Last edited by acptulsa; 07-17-2024 at 07:11 AM.

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    https://x.com/greg16676935420/status...97814845526063

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    It has been so much fun watching people trying to slow the decline the last fifty years by voting for the party that evil on this half of the issues or the party that's evil on that half of the issues. It has been so much fun watching both parties do "bipartisan compromises" and cave on the issues they ran on promises to protect. It has been so much fun watching people make excuses for their party completely failing to serve the interests of We, the People. It has been so much fun watching big government screw up on purpose so one party or the other can screech, "This is the most important election evarrr!!"

    This is where that road led to. This is the only place that road could possibly have led to. And here you are like Captain Smith on the bridge of the Titanic hollering, "Stay the course!"

    Well, that what this ship of fools is going to do. But I don't have to pretend like there's not a hundred foot gash in the hull and it's taking on water. And I don't have to pretend like hitting that iceberg again will undo the damage.

    Does anyone want to save this country? Or is bailing water so it doesn't sink quite as quickly all anyone cares about? Because it's not too soon to reject this uniparty they falsely label a "two party system".
    Aren’t you being a bit pious when in a recent presidential election you were all for Johnson/Weld? Johnson who flip-flopped and ended up sounding a lot like a leftist on foreign policy.. uh, I am against wars, well, unless we need to intercede in a country. lol. I am paraphrasing for sure, but that was pretty close to what he said in a Fox interview of each candidate. He ended with a thud. And Weld, who co-chaired the CFR task force on putting the US in a union with Mexico and Canada.

    Were you “saving the country “ then, or bailing water?

    This time around, you seem to be for Kennedy. Same question on him.

    How are YOUR actions any different than what you are accusing A Havnes of doing?
    Last edited by LibertyEagle; 07-17-2024 at 11:23 AM.
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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Aren’t you being a bit pious when in a recent presidential election you were all for Johnson/Weld? Johnson who flip-flopped and ended up sounding a lot like a leftist on foreign policy.. uh, I am against wars, well, unless we need to intercede in a country. lol. I am paraphrasing for sure, but that was pretty close to what he said in a Fox interview of each candidate. He ended with a thud. And Weld, who co-chaired the CFR task force on putting the US in a union with Mexico and Canada.

    Were you “saving the country “ then, or bailing water?

    This time around, you seem to be for Kennedy. Same question on him.

    How are YOUR actions any different than what you are accusing A Havnes of doing?
    I'm voting against the uniparty again. I was voting against the uniparty when I voted for Ron Paul in '88, and except for the primaries, I've never done anything else when it comes to the top of the ticket. How many times, in how many ways, over how many years, do I have to say it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
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    The dog is priceless, lol
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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    It has been so much fun watching people trying to slow the decline the last fifty years by voting for the party that evil on this half of the issues or the party that's evil on that half of the issues. It has been so much fun watching both parties do "bipartisan compromises" and cave on the issues they ran on promises to protect. It has been so much fun watching people make excuses for their party completely failing to serve the interests of We, the People. It has been so much fun watching big government screw up on purpose so one party or the other can screech, "This is the most important election evarrr!!"

    This is where that road led to. This is the only place that road could possibly have led to. And here you are like Captain Smith on the bridge of the Titanic hollering, "Stay the course!"

    Well, that what this ship of fools is going to do. But I don't have to pretend like there's not a hundred foot gash in the hull and it's taking on water. And I don't have to pretend like hitting that iceberg again will undo the damage.

    Does anyone want to save this country? Or is bailing water so it doesn't sink quite as quickly all anyone cares about? Because it's not too soon to reject this uniparty they falsely label a "two party system".
    No, the road you're talking about is the one where there are Ross Perot-types and Ron Paul-types are overlooked because they're deemed 'unwinnable.' That's the road we want to avoid because you can totally vote your conscience in those elections.

    I'm talking about elections like this one where there just aren't any good candidates. Instead of being Captain Smith, I view it more like this:

    There are several guys vying for captain of the Titanic. None want to slow the ship down or anything, but when that iceberg looms just ahead, who do you want at the helm? None of them are any good. One wants to try and veer around it, one wants to slam right into it and move passengers onto it, and one thinks he can just pull alongside it and mine it for ice cubes. The ship is doomed no matter what, but at least one of these guys is going to save more lives. Do you vote, or do you say that the guy with the best ideas isn't running for captain so who cares?

    I'm sure most of us consider ourselves Libertarians, but the Libertarian candidate is terrible and Trump isn't a Libertarian, either. I don't care if you vote for him, RFK, Jr., or anyone else, but saying we may as well watch the ship sink unless a true liberty candidate appears on stage is something I can't stand by and do.

    So, no, no one cares about doing nothing but bailing water, as you succinctly put it, but what do you do when there aren't candidates that want to do more than that? In that case, you may as well bail water while you wait for one to come. It's easier to repair a fender bender than a smashed-in hood.

    And, yes, we need to reject the two-party system because it's never going to work for the net good of the country.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I'm voting against the uniparty again. I was voting against the uniparty when I voted for Ron Paul in '88, and except for the primaries, I've never done anything else when it comes to the top of the ticket. How many times, in how many ways, over how many years, do I have to say it?
    If you support someone who wants world communism, I don’t get how you think that is somehow better, just because it isn’t one of the major parties.

    If you have it in you, why don’t you run for office? I am serious.
    Last edited by LibertyEagle; 07-17-2024 at 06:26 PM.
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  27. #53
    https://x.com/TooWhiteToTweet/status...46178489434371

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    https://x.com/TooWhiteToTweet/status...46178489434371

    I am sorry but wasn't America founded by Europeans?

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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.



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  32. #57
    A couple takes:

    I watched JD's speech. VERY populist message. I don't agree with a lot of it, but I get what they're trying to accomplish. I REALLY wish they'd go after the Fed which is at the root of all the mayhem, but I suppose one assassination attempt is enough for this cycle. (BTW, I still don't think they're done)

    Trump is really milking the ear patch thing, but I think it's a symbolic reminder of what they've done to him. They've called him illegitimate, they've orchestrated a coup based on a fake Russia hoax, they impeached him twice, they stole an election from him, they indicted him with novel legal theories, they've sued him, they convicted him of felonies, and now they tried to kill him - sorry, but I think the ear patches are ok.
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  33. #58
    I think Vance came off as a regular guy with good instincts. If Trump changed his pick, he did it for the right reasons.
    Although some of Vance's younger affiliations are troublesome, it looks that may have not shaped his identity or his current
    affiliations and friendships. He seems like a reliable investment in the future, and someone Trump can trust.
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  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    https://x.com/TooWhiteToTweet/status...46178489434371

    Old tweet. Came from CUFI:


    https://x.com/CUFI/status/1190383043313311744
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  35. #60
    If Democrats are willing to replace Biden with someone else besides Harris.
    The Dems could have a chance at winning as long the Pro Israeli wing of the GOP/Republicans doesn't win.

    Not saying Democrats arent any better.
    After the clown show that was the RNC Convention.


    The Convention felt more Make Israel Great Again instated of the US.
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 07-18-2024 at 08:26 AM.

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