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  1. #1051
    Watch: Amazon's Alexa Says Trump Wasn't Shot


    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ump-wasnt-shot


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  3. #1052
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Watch: Amazon's Alexa Says Trump Wasn't Shot


    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ump-wasnt-shot


    "Look at me! I'm and edgy Conspiracy Theorist! I agree with the ruling class cabal propaganda!"
    If you want to discredit a true statement, have a serial liar say it. Then have the Alt Right Mainstream Media point out that the serial liar said it.

  4. #1053
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    If you want to discredit a true statement, have a serial liar say it. Then have the Alt Right Mainstream Media point out that the serial liar said it.
    Now I understand your entire posting history, you think that everything the BlueAnons, MSM, and DNC say is the truth and they only say it to discredit it.
    That explains a lot.



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  5. #1054
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Now I understand your entire posting history, you think that everything the BlueAnons, MSM, and DNC say is the truth...
    You have to have gone way, way out of your way not to look at half of my "entire posting history" to even pretend to believe that.

  6. #1055

    https://x.com/Bl00dOld/status/1825174452910330242
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  7. #1056

    https://x.com/USAB4L/status/1825270484046610808
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  10. #1058
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post


    They wanted him dead, and they didn't want him getting good publicity about it.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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  11. #1059
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They wanted him dead, and they didn't want him getting good publicity about it.
    So glad you can read minds, Swami.

    Isn't it odd that all the other people they want dead are dead?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 08-20-2024 at 05:44 AM.

  12. #1060
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    So glad you can read minds, Swami.

    Isn't it odd that all the other people they want dead are dead?
    Not all, Teddy Roosevelt survived the assassination attempt, so did Andrew Jackson, and many others.

    And I don't have to read minds, they placed a massive short on Trump's stock just before the attempt, just like they did right before 9/11.
    He was supposed to die, but GOD had other plans.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  13. #1061
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Not all, Teddy Roosevelt survived the assassination attempt, so did Andrew Jackson, and many others.
    Andrew Jackson?

    You're conflating the 21st Century Deep State with what was going down two centuries ago?


  14. #1062
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They wanted him dead, and they didn't want him getting good publicity about it.
    Yup, no more complicated than that.

    Wait to see what they do to him in Sept and Oct.
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  15. #1063
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Not all, Teddy Roosevelt survived the assassination attempt, so did Andrew Jackson, and many others.
    Fico in Slovakia and Bolsanaro in Brazil come to mind as well.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

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  16. #1064
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    So glad you can read minds, Swami.

    Isn't it odd that all the other people they want dead are dead?
    Can't believe you're making me side with SS on this...

    If Trump doesn't turn his head, his brains are covering the platform on live TV. This was a failed assassination attempt. And the failure is embarrassing to them so of course they don't want to dwell on it.
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  18. #1065
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Can't believe you're making me side with SS on this...

    If Trump doesn't turn his head, his brains are covering the platform on live TV. This was a failed assassination attempt. And the failure is embarrassing to them so of course they don't want to dwell on it.
    So you think he was hit too. A chunk of his ear was removed by a fast moving blunt object and it was all healed up as good as new a week later.

    I don't know what's making you believe that, but it isn't me.

  19. #1066
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He was supposed to die, but GOD had other plans.
    Oh, back to that again, "He was sent by God"




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  20. #1067
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    So you think he was hit too. A chunk of his ear was removed by a fast moving blunt object and it was all healed up as good as new a week later.

    I don't know what's making you believe that...
    My own eyes. I watched it live, talked with dozens of people who were there, and watched countless replays. Yes, his ear was grazed by a bullet. Like with any small graze, it bled profusely for a few seconds, stopped, scabbed and then healed over. I get nicks and scrapes all over my hands on a regular basis and it's almost always the same pattern.

    Just in Hawaii last week, my son was riding bikes with his friend and fell. His knee was scraped pretty badly. It was a 2 inch X 2 inch scrape, took awhile to get the bleeding to stop, hurt like hell for 2 days, but then by day 3 he was boogie-boarding in the ocean. By day 5, most of the scabbing had washed away except for the deepest cuts. Today, all you see is a small scar where the skin didn't get tanned. And that was a large scrape - not a small nick.

    Seriously, man. Check your TDS on this one to make sure you're not letting that cloud your judgment.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

  21. #1068
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Oh, back to that again, "He was sent by God"

    Yet another feature he shares with the Antichrist...

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Seriously, man. Check your TDS on this one to make sure you're not letting that cloud your judgment.
    I don't know for certain one way or the other. I just want to see some objectivity for a change. Seriously. AF seems more certain that all this is childishly simple than he is that God exists. You are certain of things no one but the Secret Service people on his backside and the doctor he got hustled off to could possibly claim to have been close enough to know for sure.

    A bullet is blunt. He'd be more likely to have a quarter inch wide bruise than a cut too tiny to see, if it were that close to a clean miss. The "blood spatter" is highly suspect, as I have pointed out elsewhere. It's too convenient. It would fit a pattern with these fake indictments.

    Why does the fact that it happened in your hometown make it imperative that it went down one way or the other? Because people you trust who were there but had a worse view than any camera angle were convinced? You didn't tell me you knew the SS men in the dogpile. They're from Butler too? And speaking of the SS, why does SS emit autistic screeching every time someone points out something that Trump has in common with the Antichrist? Doesn't everybody have something in common with that vague prophesy?

    The purpose of psyops is to play on people's emotions and to keep them from looking at things dispassionately and critically. And they work. If you let them. You see, when I try to get people to sober up about this thing and take a hard look at what little we know and how much we don't, I seriously don't think it's the devil's advocate I'm playing.

    And yes, it's hard to say, Corey died in a PR stunt. It makes my blood boil. It's certainly easier to exclaim, "They hate Trump so much they want to kill him!" than to digest that they hate us so much they'll shoot any random good, kind man to make a public relations stunt look convincing. That's worse than hate, honestly. I remember the way people would joke whenever the touchy subject of BDSM came up. "Whip me, beat me, just don't ignore me!" They don't even bother to be contemptuous about killing people any more, not even here at home. It's a truth few people can handle.

    But I can't rule that out because of that. The enemy wants us to say, "Don't confuse me with facts, I've already made up my mind." You know they do. And I hate doing what the enemy wants me to do.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 08-20-2024 at 08:44 AM.

  22. #1069
    One thing is certain. Something is rotten way closer than Denmark.


  23. #1070
    J13 Forum: Examining the Attempted Assassination of Donald J. Trump

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  24. #1071
    Alternative C-SPAN link to J13 Forum:

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?537968...ation&live&vod
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  25. #1072
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    A bullet is blunt.
    No, it is not.

    A .223 / 5.56 mm jacketed bullet is sharp and pointed, until it hits something solid and expands to transfer it's energy.

    5.56 bullets.



    Graze wound from a .223 / 5.56 mm

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  27. #1073
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Graze wound from a .223 / 5.56 mm

    Stop showing me that guy's belly and point to where the chunk that size is missing from Trump's ear already.

  28. #1074
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Stop showing me that guy's belly and point to where the chunk that size is missing from Trump's ear already.
    Do you think all grazes are the exact same size???

    Trump was very lucky to only have been nicked. Corey, Dutch, and Jim were not so lucky. Neither was the hydraulic pump holding up the speakers. Do you really think there were no bullets flying that day? Or do you think they were shooting up the crowd with Trump's knowledge and he had a blood pack ready to go when the shots were fired and he was never in any real danger?

    Seriously, dude... TDS.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

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  29. #1075
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Do you really think there were no bullets flying that day?
    Obviously not.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Or do you think they were shooting up the crowd with Trump's knowledge and he had a blood pack ready to go when the shots were fired and he was never in any real danger?

    Seriously, dude... TDS.
    You're the one who can't wrap his head around the sheer level of evil which has taken control.

    Quick quiz: How many of the people who were in Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63 lived to a ripe old age? Do the research and you'll discover that George H.W. Bush was just about the only one.

    Review the methods all those dozens of associates of Hillary Rodham Clinton used to commit suicide and get back to me.

    Nothing I love more than being called delusional by people who think the most powerful people in the world got that way by playing tiddlywinks. "Or do you think they were shooting up the crowd with Trump's knowledge..?" Ask one of the contractors he put out of business rather than pay what he owed them if that might not be possible.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 08-27-2024 at 08:55 AM.

  30. #1076


    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Anyway, back to this case, just to show a conspiratorial way this would be done.

    They have an impressionable kid on SSRI's that visits a gun range.
    <Side anecdote, I went to a gun range outside of DC in my teens and I was approached by strangers there that wanted to chat about my political beliefs (I had LP license plates on my truck) - not saying they were agents, but they looked like agents. I even made friends with a guy and we'd meet up there to shoot together until he got too pushy and got angry at me for missing some times that he wanted to shoot. Then, he ghosted me entirely and I never saw him again. Could have just been an $#@!.>
    Anyway, they have records of this kid's medical diagnoses, they have records of his range visits and they have records of his online activity. They don't need to ORDER him to do anything, nor do they need to give him the right weapons. The asset will figure that stuff out on his own. They only need to give the proper nudges. "Did you know Trump's having a rally in Butler?" Kid looks up the rally. "I heard the security is so lax at that place - no one's even gonna be watching that AGR building". Agent tracks his phone and sees that the kid is doing recon, so he reports back. They coordinate an opening at the AGR building and let the kid do his thing.

    Again, not saying this is how it happened, but it very easily could have.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

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  31. #1077
    https://x.com/i/status/1833527176794411065

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

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  34. #1080

    A few names named: SS Agents at Butler PA rally

    Meredith Banks - lead advance agent
    Myosoty Perez - site agent
    Dana DuBrey - site agent
    Timothy Burke - Pittsburgh Boss

    https://headlineusa.com/secret-servi...s-anti-trumper

    ...More interestingly, NYT revealed the name of the Secret Service’s lead counter-sniper at the rally, John Marciniak; the agency’s lead advance agent, Meredith Bank; and two site agents, Myosoty Perez and Dana DuBrey—the latter two who have hired lawyers.

    DuBrey and Bank have been put on administrative duties along with the agency’s Pittsburgh boss, Timothy Burke.

    FBI whistleblower Greg Roman told Headline USA that the Secret Service agents lawyering up is an indication that the agency may be looking to scapegoat them for the Butler failures.

    “The Secret Service higher ups will gladly sacrifice a few of their own just to placate Congress and some in the media to put this thing to bed as soon as possible. At least one of the scalps will have to be a bit higher in rank/position, such as Burke … so it doesn’t appear lower level line agents get all the blame,” Roman said.

    “It’s smart for them to lawyer up while they’re on administrative leave. They obviously smell the stench of whatever is being cooked up against them. They’ve been isolated and virtually excommunicated and I doubt the Secret Service HR department is of any help to them whatsoever.”

    According to NYT, Perez hired Larry Berger—a lawyer who’s represented embattled Secret Service agents in the past—while DuBrey has hired notorious anti-Trump lawyer Mark Zaid.

    Readers may be well familiar with Zaid.

    A self-described advocate for whistleblowers, Zaid has worked on a wide variety of politically charged matters, including the first Trump impeachment. His clients have included Facebook’s dubious pro-censorship whistleblower, Frances Haugen; the brother of impeacher-turned-war profiteer Alexander Vindman; and a slew of CIA agents who’ve made numerous unfounded claims about having so-called “Havana Syndrome.”

    Additionally, Zaid has been accused of spreading disinformation about the assassination of John F. Kennedy. According to acclaimed JFK researcher James DiEugenio, Zaid once gave a speech arguing against the probability that Lee Harvey Oswald was an intelligence asset—despite his numerous links to the CIA…

    https://headlineusa.com/secret-servi...s-anti-trumper
    The September 18 article from NY Times has much more info, but requires a subscription to read the whole thing. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/u...t-service.html
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