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  1. #481
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    They know full well exactly what they've been doing:

    https://x.com/tomselliott/status/1812829851025641847


    ‘Morning Joe’ pulled from air Monday because of Trump shooting
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/media...ion/index.html
    {Oliver Darcy | 15 July 2024}

    MSNBC will not air “Morning Joe,” its celebrated politics roundtable program, on Monday, opting to instead air continued breaking news coverage of the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump.

    The progressive news network confirmed the decision to preempt its influential and top-rated morning show after a CNN inquiry Sunday evening. The network said the show will resume airing Tuesday.

    The decision by MSNBC to leave one of its most recognizable programs on the sidelines amid a seismic politics-driven news cycle, with the Republican National Convention getting underway in the wake of the Saturday shooting at Trump’s campaign rally, is certain to raise eyebrows.

    A person familiar with the matter told CNN that the decision was made to avoid a scenario in which one of the show’s stable of two dozen-plus guests might make an inappropriate comment on live television that could be used to assail the program and network as a whole. Given the breaking news nature of the story, the person said, it made more sense to continue airing rolling breaking news coverage in the fraught political moment.

    “Given the gravity and complexity of this unfolding story, NBC News, NBC News NOW and MSNBC have remained in rolling breaking news coverage since Saturday evening,” a spokesperson for NBCUniversal News Group said in a statement to CNN. “As we continue to cover this story into the week, the networks will continue to cross simulcast, alternating between NBC News, NBC News NOW and ‘MSNBC Reports,’ so there is one news feed covering this developing situation.”

    In the wake of the attempt on Trump’s life, some of the former president’s supporters have vehemently criticized the press and liberal media commentators for their hard-knuckled reporting, which has sounded the alarm on what four more years under the former president would look like.

    Cesar Conde, the chairman of NBCUniversal News Group, made the decision in conjunction with Rashida Jones, the president of MSNBC, and hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski, the person familiar with the matter told CNN.

    Over the course of the campaign cycle, news organizations have reported at length on Trump’s plans to warp the federal government for his own ends, including to seek vengeance against his political opponents. That reporting is now facing scrutiny, with some Trump supporters blaming it for producing a charged atmosphere that gave way to the assassination attempt, while mostly looking past the incendiary rhetoric of the former president himself.

    MSNBC has, in particular, been blasted by Trump’s allies, putting the network in the spotlight. Some of Trump’s allies have gone as far as to attack the network’s parent company, Comcast.

    It’s not the first time MSNBC has made such programming decisions in charged political moments.

    Last year after Hamas executed its deadly October 7 attack on Israel, MSNBC quietly pulled three of its Muslim broadcasters from air. That move, which came after some pro-Israeli forces criticized the tone of the MSNBC’s coverage, left some staffers at the network feeling uncomfortable, Semafor reported at the time.
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 07-15-2024 at 07:07 AM.



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    We were about 1/4" away from the cold civil war turning hot.
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  5. #484
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    We were about 1/4" away from the cold civil war turning hot.
    We still are.

  6. #485
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    ‘Morning Joe’ pulled from air Monday because of Trump shooting
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/media...ion/index.html
    {Oliver Darcy | 15 July 2024}

    [...]

    In the wake of the attempt on Trump’s life, some of the former president’s supporters have vehemently criticized the press and liberal media commentators for their hard-knuckled reporting, which has sounded the alarm on what four more years under the former president would look like.

    [...]

    Over the course of the campaign cycle, news organizations have reported at length on Trump’s plans to warp the federal government for his own ends, including to seek vengeance against his political opponents. That reporting is now facing scrutiny, with some Trump supporters blaming it for producing a charged atmosphere that gave way to the assassination attempt, while mostly looking past the incendiary rhetoric of the former president himself.

    [...]
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  7. #486
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    DARVO - Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim & Offender

    No matter how much you despise them, it isn't nearly enough.
    Funny how they don't trust their own people. Ever since Trump bad mouthed Joes girlfriend Mika, they've gone fulled TDS mode
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  8. #487
    curious - Has it been confirmed Trump was hit with a bullet or was it part of the teleprompter that exploded when it was hit with a bullet as some have mentioned?
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  9. #488
    - SS did not takeout shooter when they could have, before he fired.
    - SS did not secure their detail Trump despite shooter being seen and posing mortal threat.
    - Trump should have been removed instantly from stage well before shots.
    This means his on-stage detail were not informed (most likely) or, (less likely) were in on it.
    - Police who shot Crooks were not SS and have not been identified or interviewed yet
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    - Claims of explosive "devices" and "containers" in car, home do not provide any details whatsoever about the nature of these objects.
    They could literally be water bottles and household cleaning products.
    - Magic cell phone impenetrable (yeah, right). Probably being loaded up with whatever tale they want to weave.
    Last edited by Snowball; 07-15-2024 at 07:59 AM.
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  11. #489
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Claims of explosive "devices" and "containers" in car, home do not provide any details whatsoever about the nature of these objects.
    Yeah, that struck me. You bring bombs to your battlefield, then leave them locked in the car? Even insanity tends to drive toward a purpose. It's rarely random.

  12. #490
    Quote Originally Posted by tebowlives View Post
    curious - Has it been confirmed Trump was hit with a bullet or was it part of the teleprompter that exploded when it was hit with a bullet as some have mentioned?
    Don't think it's been confirmed yet, but I didn't see the teleprompter get shattered.

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-was-h...bullet-report/
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  13. #491
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    - SS did not takeout shooter when they could have, before he fired.
    - SS did not secure their detail Trump despite shooter being seen and posing mortal threat.
    - Trump should have been removed instantly from stage well before shots.
    This means his on-stage detail were not informed (most likely) or, (less likely) were in on it.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    - Claims of explosive "devices" and "containers" in car, home do not provide any details whatsoever about the nature of these objects.
    They could literally be water bottles and household cleaning products.
    - Magic cell phone impenetrable (yeah, right). Probably being loaded up with whatever tale they want to weave.

    That is direct a call to get buy-in for the new and improved FBI Center and Nationwide Stop and Frisk. Nothing will be defunded, the fed.gov only knows how to grow in size and power. They need Trump [and his followers] in order to sign the spending.
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  14. #492
    But a source within the Secret Service community tells RealClearPolitics that the agency rules of engagement in this situation are to wait until the president is fired upon to return fire.

    “You want to take a shot then find out the guy was holding a telescope?” the source suggested. “The Secret Service is by nature reactive…and you better be right when you do react or you’re f—–d.”

    https://thelibertydaily.com/7-things...d-be-assassin/

    *** still doesn't explain why Trump wasn't immediately removed from the podium.

    "A police sniper then shot Crooks dead " (so, it was the police who did not fire in time. Interesting.)

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/292312...police-warned/

    ^^ TRUMP fans shot during the failed assassination attempt on the former President may have been hit by the Secret Service.

    Authorities do not yet know who fired the fatal bullets that cut the "hero's" life short meaning it could have been the Secret Service or cops as they returned fire.
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  15. #493
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Don't think it's been confirmed yet, but I didn't see the teleprompter get shattered.

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-was-h...bullet-report/
    Apparently the rumor comes from law enforcement. If no teleprompter was hit, that doesn't make it any less interesting.

    Law enforcement officials claimed to two different sources that former President Donald Trump was not grazed by a bullet but rather by glass shards.

    The officials in question told both Newsmax's Alex Salvi and Axios' Juliegrace Brufke that Trump was hit by glass shards that may have erupted from the shattering of a teleprompter that was hit by gunfire. Brufke appears to have removed the tweet with the initial claim.
    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-was-h...bullet-report/

    Neither Trump nor the doctor who stitched him up could possibly know for certain, one way or the other, if whatever hit him didn't lodge in him somewhere.

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  17. #495
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    But a source within the Secret Service community tells RealClearPolitics that the agency rules of engagement in this situation are to wait until the president is fired upon to return fire.

    “You want to take a shot then find out the guy was holding a telescope?” the source suggested. “The Secret Service is by nature reactive…and you better be right when you do react or you’re f—–d.”
    ...........

    This would make the Secret Service the most disciplined law enforcement agency in the country, if true.

    If only the lower enforcement class would take a lesson from this with how they roll in the streets.

  18. #496


    Quick, salvage credibility, salvage credibility!!!
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Yup.

    Are you going to deny that this guy doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the Deep State, that he's possibly not a part of the psyop but just a sign that it's working?

    Are you going to deny that the Deep State is evil enough to do this to Trump, perhaps from a position much closer than the patsy's position, and never tell Trump it was them? Suppose Trump's head bobbing could have been the reason the shooter didn't miss?

    Are you going to deny that they could have had a contingency plan to have someone else take full advantage of Trump's martyr status just in case their Manchurian Candidate actually managed to shoot straighter? Or do you really think the average leftie journalist can be that cold-blooded but the Deep State can't?
    You are insane.
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  21. #498
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    You are insane.
    Coming up with a reasonable conclusion isn't insane. That you think with all the proof of government corruption that this isn't a possibility, is proof you are either insane or you haven't been paying attention or both. We could be here for a long time listing government pulling sleazy garbage
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  22. #499
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Ouch. Please suggest that she pass along that he's getting prayers from strangers far, far away.

    Doesn't sound like firing wild to me. Sounds like he had time to aim three shots minimum (Trump hit once and two bullets about a foot apart in Mr. Dutch).
    Same here.

    I am sorry to hear this is affecting people "close to home" for you.
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  23. #500
    Kind of defeats the purpose of an anonymous forum.


  24. #501
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    What utter garbage.
    I had already been here 9 years when all the Trump-humpers showed up. Conspicuously accompanied by a gaggle of racist neo-reactionaries that our poor moderators had to systematically remove like the public lice they were.

    Trumps rise was about as organic as the waste dumpster in the back of an off-grid Pfizer waste facility.

    But you do you anonymous rando.
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  25. #502
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post


    Quick, salvage credibility, salvage credibility!!!
    //

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    They know full well exactly what they've been doing:

    https://x.com/tomselliott/status/1812829851025641847


    ‘Morning Joe’ pulled from air Monday because of Trump shooting
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/media...ion/index.html
    {Oliver Darcy | 15 July 2024}

    MSNBC will not air “Morning Joe,” its celebrated politics roundtable program, on Monday, opting to instead air continued breaking news coverage of the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump.

    The progressive news network confirmed the decision to preempt its influential and top-rated morning show after a CNN inquiry Sunday evening. The network said the show will resume airing Tuesday.

    The decision by MSNBC to leave one of its most recognizable programs on the sidelines amid a seismic politics-driven news cycle, with the Republican National Convention getting underway in the wake of the Saturday shooting at Trump’s campaign rally, is certain to raise eyebrows.

    A person familiar with the matter told CNN that the decision was made to avoid a scenario in which one of the show’s stable of two dozen-plus guests might make an inappropriate comment on live television that could be used to assail the program and network as a whole. Given the breaking news nature of the story, the person said, it made more sense to continue airing rolling breaking news coverage in the fraught political moment.

    “Given the gravity and complexity of this unfolding story, NBC News, NBC News NOW and MSNBC have remained in rolling breaking news coverage since Saturday evening,” a spokesperson for NBCUniversal News Group said in a statement to CNN. “As we continue to cover this story into the week, the networks will continue to cross simulcast, alternating between NBC News, NBC News NOW and ‘MSNBC Reports,’ so there is one news feed covering this developing situation.”

    In the wake of the attempt on Trump’s life, some of the former president’s supporters have vehemently criticized the press and liberal media commentators for their hard-knuckled reporting, which has sounded the alarm on what four more years under the former president would look like.

    Cesar Conde, the chairman of NBCUniversal News Group, made the decision in conjunction with Rashida Jones, the president of MSNBC, and hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski, the person familiar with the matter told CNN.

    Over the course of the campaign cycle, news organizations have reported at length on Trump’s plans to warp the federal government for his own ends, including to seek vengeance against his political opponents. That reporting is now facing scrutiny, with some Trump supporters blaming it for producing a charged atmosphere that gave way to the assassination attempt, while mostly looking past the incendiary rhetoric of the former president himself.

    MSNBC has, in particular, been blasted by Trump’s allies, putting the network in the spotlight. Some of Trump’s allies have gone as far as to attack the network’s parent company, Comcast.

    It’s not the first time MSNBC has made such programming decisions in charged political moments.

    Last year after Hamas executed its deadly October 7 attack on Israel, MSNBC quietly pulled three of its Muslim broadcasters from air. That move, which came after some pro-Israeli forces criticized the tone of the MSNBC’s coverage, left some staffers at the network feeling uncomfortable, Semafor reported at the time.

  26. #503
    My Congressman hinting that the security lapse may have been on purpose



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aKIMiaYjis

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  27. #504
    What if I told you...

    the American Glass Research building (Trump shot from), was just a few months ago acquired by a P/E giant
    run by a member of the CFR and Brookings Institution?

    yep.
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  29. #505
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    My Congressman hinting that the security lapse may have been on purpose



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aKIMiaYjis

    He's right you know.

  30. #506
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    He's right you know.
    It certainly looks that way.
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  31. #507
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    You are insane.
    Throughout my life I've had a lot of experience with people telling me it's raining when my face clearly smells like piss.
    Seems like every six months for the last 30 years there's been something in the news that everyone is just supposed to pretend is something far less severe than it is.
    I mean, on average, that is. It's definitely accelerated in the last 10 years. We had to wait years in between Waco, Ruby Ridge, Bosnia, etc... now it seems like every week there's a new outright lie happening.

    They literally spent hours reporting "loud bangs" and "Trump injured at rally". They literally couldn't bring themselves even to admit it was a shooting.

    One hour after the shooting you could turn on alternate media and there were already people joking about how CIA sniper training is clearly not what it was in 1963.

    Even the Chi-coms know their media is bullshitting them. They might be forced at gunpoint to publicly believe it's true, they might get turned into polymerized museum exhibits if they ever say out loud that they don't believe it, but they all know better.

    We're ostensibly still free to dissent.

    There are four $#@!ing fingers.
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  33. #509
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    //
    The thing is, they can't. They literally can't.

    You can't spend 8 years battering a man to the brink of disaster and then suddenly come out and pretend like you want civility.

    That's like going on air the day before the debate and telling everyone how Biden's mind is so sharp and then the day of the debate, turn right around and be like, 'oh no something happened to his brain, we might need someone else.'

    [most] People see through that.

    It's so pathetically obvious at this point that they don't believe anything they're saying on air.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

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