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  1. #31
    Good luck getting Trump to say which specific parts of this he disagrees with.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://x.com/ds_massie/status/1809669816346693678
    What's the source of that graphic? It reads like it was written by liberal opponents of Agenda 2025 who paraphrased things to make them look bad.

    In spite of that, it still looks like more good than bad.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    First Ive seen it , I see about ten things on it look ok to me but that isnt a very good percentage
    It doesn't matter if you have never heard of it, because it's an existential threat! It's a Nazi fascist master plan.

    Has Trump really disavowed this? No. He said they are very fine people! Therefore, Trump is Hitler!

    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    What's the source of that graphic? It reads like it was written by liberal opponents of Agenda 2025 who paraphrased things to make them look bad.

    In spite of that, it still looks like more good than bad.
    It was posted by Luke Skywalker, so it must be legit. It's settled. It's the MAGA master plan. It looks like you support it, so you must be a fascist too.

    If you do not openly disavow this, then you obviously support it! You must be actively anti-Project 2025, no matter what the source.

    Where do you stand on the "American Agenda 2031 For Freedom"? Don't pretend you never heard of it. You and Trump have not disavowed it, therefore you support it. It's an existential threat to the galaxy.
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    It doesn't matter if you have never heard of it, because it's an existential threat! It's a Nazi fascist master plan.

    Has Trump really disavowed this? No. He said they are very fine people! Therefore, Trump is Hitler!



    It was posted by Luke Skywalker, so it must be legit. It's settled. It's the MAGA master plan. It looks like you support it, so you must be a fascist too.

    If you do not openly disavow this, then you obviously support it! You must be actively anti-Project 2025, no matter what the source.

    Where do you stand on the "American Agenda 2031 For Freedom"? Don't pretend you never heard of it. You and Trump have not disavowed it, therefore you support it. It's an existential threat to the galaxy.
    LOL , that guy may be dismayed to find out I dont care about his democracy
    Do something Danke

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    The video you posted didn't say "rounding up people and shooting them." And a mine is hardly "passive."



    Mike Pompeo was secretary of state. William Barr was attorney general. Only a complete moron would think those were not important positions. Same for National Security Advisor.



    PNAC never had anything to do with Bush either. It was connected to the Bush cabinet. A lot of swamp was connected to the Trump cabinet.
    I don’t know if I agree about Dubya. A lot because of his rotten to the core, father. One of them knew about PNAC, because almost every person in Jr’s cabinet was from there.

    Trump made a couple good, but mostly horrible appointees. I think he tried to bring in who he thought were the smartest people he knew to advise him on the economy (yes, I know, we all would have picked differently), but he did pick General Flynn, who seemed to be anti-war. The others, I don’t think he had any idea and took who Chrispy Cream suggested to him. I remember back then asking Ron Paul to please advise him on this. But back then, Ron’s position was to not. I was glad Rand was willing to get in Trump’s ear when he could.

    That said, if he chooses what’s her face for his VP, I am not voting for him. I hadn’t done my due diligence on her, but at first glance, I was kinda hoping for Noem. But, after she shot herself in the foot, she isn’t going anywhere.
    Last edited by LibertyEagle; 07-09-2024 at 02:11 PM.
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Good luck getting Trump to say which specific parts of this he disagrees with.
    I think he'd disagree w/ banning contraceptives , higher fed income taxes for working class , cutting social security, fed govt involvement in raising prescription drug price, ending school lunch programs , but who really knows.
    Do something Danke

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I think he'd disagree w/ banning contraceptives , higher fed income taxes for working class , cutting social security, fed govt involvement in raising prescription drug price, ending school lunch programs , but who really knows.
    I doubt that any of those things even accurate representations of what's in this Agenda 2025. I'm not motivated to bother researching it to find out though.

    I'm sure you're right that he disagrees with those things (or whatever the Agenda 2025 actually says that provided the basis for those caricatures). But that's not the same thing as him forthrightly saying exactly what he does and doesn't support, with respect to what's actually in Agenda 2025, and not what's in a list of liberal bullet points about what they want people to think makes it terrible.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://x.com/ds_massie/status/1809669816346693678
    I dismiss anything, out of hand, from a person that uses the phrase "our democracy".
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I dismiss anything, out of hand, from a person that uses the phrase "our democracy".
    Kind of ironic that a person whose only claim to fame is acting in a movie series where he was a rebel against empire, and in real life, he's a useful idiot for empire.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  12. #40
    2024 GOP PLATFORM
    MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!


    https://cdn.nucleusfiles.com/be/beb1...ly-7-final.pdf

    1. SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION

    2. CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY

    3. END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN

    4. MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!

    5. STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER

    6. LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!

    7. DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS,
    INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR
    ARMS

    8. PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND BUILD A
    GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA

    9. END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

    10. STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS, CRUSH GANG
    VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS

    11. REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN, AND BEAUTIFUL
    AGAIN.

    12. STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST
    AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD

    13. KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD’S RESERVE CURRENCY

    14. FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO
    CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE

    15. CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME REGULATIONS

    16. CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL GENDER
    IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL CONTENT ON OUR
    CHILDREN

    17. KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN’S SPORTS

    18. DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND PATRIOTIC AGAIN

    19. SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION, PAPER BALLOTS,
    AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP

    20. UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Kind of ironic that a person whose only claim to fame is acting in a movie series where he was a rebel against empire, and in real life, he's a useful idiot for empire.
    LOL - I never thought of it like that.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://x.com/ds_massie/status/1809669816346693678
    The problem with all the trump fearmongering is we already had 4 years of trump. How many of the bad things on that list did he do in his last 4 years?

    We should complain about the things trump actually did badly, not the made up stuff.

    How about the fact that trump oversaw the doubling of the swamp instead of draining it.

  16. #43
    @Brian4Liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Kind of ironic that a person whose only claim to fame is acting in a movie series where he was a rebel against empire, and in real life, he's a useful idiot for empire.
    https://x.com/AntiFeder1776/status/1810780244606927182

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    2024 GOP PLATFORM
    MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!


    https://cdn.nucleusfiles.com/be/beb1...ly-7-final.pdf

    1. SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION

    2. CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY

    3. END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN

    4. MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!

    5. STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER

    6. LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!

    7. DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS,
    INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR
    ARMS

    8. PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND BUILD A
    GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA

    9. END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

    10. STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS, CRUSH GANG
    VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS

    11. REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN, AND BEAUTIFUL
    AGAIN.

    12. STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST
    AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD

    13. KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD’S RESERVE CURRENCY

    14. FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO
    CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE

    15. CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME REGULATIONS

    16. CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL GENDER
    IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL CONTENT ON OUR
    CHILDREN

    17. KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN’S SPORTS

    18. DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND PATRIOTIC AGAIN

    19. SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION, PAPER BALLOTS,
    AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP

    20. UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS

    These 3:

    8. PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND BUILD A
    GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA

    11. REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN, AND BEAUTIFUL
    AGAIN.

    12. STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST
    AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD

    14. FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO
    CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE

    Contradict these 2:

    3. END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN


    13. KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD’S RESERVE CURRENCY

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Deer can only jump so high.
    And coyotes are not going to hoist little girls over one fence and into a minefield with another fence on the other side, and if they do that's on them.

    You are just making up nonsense to heart bleed until we can't do anything about the millions of "poor struggling refugees" Criminal economic migrant invaders.
    You think landmines are more human than humans with guns because landmines will be inside a fence. Got it. That's a retarded position but got it. I put more trust in a human being to make the correct decision to shoot or not shoot than a freaking mine. And, as Ron Paul has said, the real purpose of this mined fence may be to keep Americans in once the dollar truly goes to shyt. But of course you'll just ignore what Ron Paul said on that because....reasons. You'll pretend that Americans will never need to retreat from a tyrannical American government because...reasons.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    I don’t know if I agree about Dubya. A lot because of his rotten to the core, father. One of them knew about PNAC, because almost every person in Jr’s cabinet was from there.
    Fair enough.

    Trump made a couple good, but mostly horrible appointees. I think he tried to bring in who he thought were the smartest people he knew to advise him on the economy (yes, I know, we all would have picked differently), but he did pick General Flynn, who seemed to be anti-war. The others, I don’t think he had any idea and took who Chrispy Cream suggested to him. I remember back then asking Ron Paul to please advise him on this. But back then, Ron’s position was to not. I was glad Rand was willing to get in Trump’s ear when he could.
    I can't blame Ron for staying as far away from Trump as possible. I get Rand trying to make the best of a bad/imperfect situation.

    That said, if he chooses what’s her face for his VP, I am not voting for him. I hadn’t done my due diligence on her, but at first glance, I was kinda hoping for Noem. But, after she shot herself in the foot, she isn’t going anywhere.
    Yeah. Nikki Haley is awful. I shudder to imagine either her or Kamala Harris a heartbeat away from the presidency. I'm hoping for Tim Scott who, while imperfect, I don't think is evil. LOL @ Kristi Noem. I think she thought she would rack up "tough girl" points with the "I shot my dog and my goat" story. She killed her career as fast as Mel Gibson and Ryan Garcia and they were both drunk and/or high at the time.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What about moles? Won't somebody please think of the poor prairie dogs?



    A millennial child.

    Um, news flash: Back when children were allowed out-of-doors, they used to figure out how to climb fences all on their own.
    Or....someone will just pry open a whole in the fence and let the little children run through.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Qpfrs...?feature=share

    And if it was a real invasion they'd just fly over the fence and the mines with paramotors like Hamas.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Fair enough.



    I can't blame Ron for staying as far away from Trump as possible. I get Rand trying to make the best of a bad/imperfect situation.



    Yeah. Nikki Haley is awful. I shudder to imagine either her or Kamala Harris a heartbeat away from the presidency. I'm hoping for Tim Scott who, while imperfect, I don't think is evil. LOL @ Kristi Noem. I think she thought she would rack up "tough girl" points with the "I shot my dog and my goat" story. She killed her career as fast as Mel Gibson and Ryan Garcia and they were both drunk and/or high at the time.
    I think I would rather have Ben Carson than Scott.
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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I dismiss anything, out of hand, from a person that uses the phrase "our democracy".
    Correct
    Do something Danke

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    I think I would rather have Ben Carson than Scott.
    Me too but Im ok w/ Carson or Scott. Nicky as bad as it gets
    Do something Danke

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    First Ive seen it , I see about ten things on it look ok to me but that isnt a very good percentage
    The rest are fake.



    https://x.com/Prjct2025/status/1810735701308195326
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Good luck getting Trump to say which specific parts of this he disagrees with.
    How about all of the fake ones, which is like 95%?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I dismiss anything, out of hand, from a person that uses the phrase "our democracy".
    This was the correct response.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  28. #54
    MYTHS VS. FACTS ABOUT PROJECT 2025

    We are not affiliated with former President Trump. We are a coalition of more than 110 conservative groups advocating policy and personnel recommendations.


    1. End no fault divorce: FALSE


    Divorce is not mentioned in our policy handbook, Mandate for Leadership.


    2. Complete ban on abortions without exceptions: FALSE


    Mandate for Leadership calls for the government to comply with laws that prevent federal funding of abortion. It also calls for federal support for alternatives to abortion, including adoption.


    3. Ban contraceptives: FALSE


    Mandate for Leadership says nothing about banning or restricting contraception.


    4. Additional tax breaks for corporations and the 1%: MISLEADING


    Mandate for Leadership calls for LOWER taxes for ALL Americans, to stimulate economic growth and put more money in Americans’ pockets.


    5. Higher taxes for the working class: FALSE


    Mandate for Leadership calls for LOWER taxes for ALL Americans. Individuals spend their money in more productive ways than the government does.


    6. Elimination of unions and worker protections: FALSE


    Mandate for Leadership presents different ideas about a conservative labor policy. It calls for combatting the excesses of the Deep State’s bloated federal employee unions, which have ensured that federal employees keep their jobs even if they engage in illegal behavior or perform their jobs poorly.


    7. Raise the retirement age: FALSE


    Raising the retirement age is nowhere advocated in Mandate for Leadership.


    8. Cut Social Security: FALSE


    Mandate for Leadership does not advocate cutting Social Security.


    9. End Affordable Care Act: FALSE


    Mandate for Leadership offers policy suggestions to curb the abuses of the Affordable Care Act.


    10. Raise prescription drug prices: FALSE


    Mandate for Leadership offers proposals to lower drug prices through competition and innovation.


    11. Eliminate the Department of Education: TRUE


    Mandate for Leadership calls for an end to the Department of Education. Since the Department was created, educational outcomes have not improved, and the American school system has increasingly fallen behind other countries. Giving more control back to state and local governments and expanding school choice would improve education outcomes for all Americans, especially underprivileged communities. Some functions of the Department would be moved to other departments including Labor, Justice, and Commerce.


    12. Use public, taxpayer money for private religious schools: TRUE


    Americans are able to use taxpayer money to choose where they shop for groceries, attain housing, and obtain higher education. Religious schools often outperform public schools, and families should have the choice to send their children to these schools.


    13. Teach Christian religious beliefs in public schools: FALSE


    Mandate for Leadership advocates for all educational opportunities, and for parental rights in education.


    14. End free and discounted school lunch programs: FALSE


    Mandate for Leadership advocates that the Food and Nutrition Service be moved from the Department of Agriculture to the Department of Health and Human Services. Mandate condemns the Biden administration’s decision to threaten schools that do not comply with radical transgender policies by taking away their funding for school meals for needy students. Additionally, Mandate supports prioritizing school meal programs for those students who are truly needy, not creating an entitlement for almost all students regardless of family income levels.


    15. End civil rights and DEI protections in government: MOSTLY FALSE


    Mandate for Leadership calls for respecting the civil rights of all Americans, including those who have been censored by the government or had it weaponized against them. Mandate advocates for the end of divisive, race-based, anti-American propaganda in the federal workforce.


    16. Ban African American and gender studies in all levels of education: FALSE


    Mandate for Leadership does not mention African American studies or gender studies.


    17. Ban books and curriculum about slavery: FALSE


    Mandate for Leadership does not advocate for banning books or curriculum about slavery.


    18. Ending climate protections: FALSE


    Mandate for Leadership advocates policies that will produce economic growth through abundant, affordable energy. Famers, hunters, and fishers know how to protect our environment better than D.C. bureaucrats. The Biden administration’s relentless focus on climate has made America less competitive and wasted crucial taxpayer dollars.


    19. Increase Arctic drilling: TRUE


    The Arctic is of immense strategic importance to America. Mandate for Leadership advocates a strong pursuit of American interests in the region, through economic freedom, through ensuring free and open shipping lanes, and through the development of the vast energy resources of the Arctic.


    20. Deregulate big business and the oil industry: MOSTLY TRUE


    America needs energy that is plentiful and affordable. Mandate for Leadership calls for an all-of-the-above energy policy that would promote the development of our domestic energy supply, and for fewer burdensome regulations for ALL businesses.


    21. Promote and expedite capital punishment: TRUE


    The appropriateness of capital punishment divides Americans, and conservatives, of good will. Mandate for Leadership calls for the enforcement of the federal death penalty where appropriate and applicable, and recommends a future presidential administration pursue the death penalty for the most heinous crimes, including those involving violence and the sexual abuse of children, unless Congress says otherwise through legislation.


    22. End marriage equality: FALSE


    The legal recognition of same-sex marriage is not discussed in Mandate for Leadership. Mandate calls for the protection of faith-based grant recipients who maintain support for the traditional definition of marriage. Mandate also supports conscience protections for those who do not wish to participate in same-sex marriages.


    23. Condemn single mothers while promoting only “traditional families”: FALSE


    Mandate suggests that a future HHS Secretary replace the policies of the Biden administration that prioritize LGBTQ+ equality, subsidize single motherhood, disincentivize work, and penalize marriage with policies that instead encourage marriage, work, motherhood, fatherhood, and nuclear families.


    24. Defund the FBI and Homeland Security: FALSE


    Mandate for Leadership supports de-weaponizing the federal government, including the FBI. Mandate’s chapter on the Department of Homeland Security advocates the legislative creation of a standalone Cabinet-level agency with a focus on the border and immigration, including U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CPB), Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR), the Executive Office of Immigration Review (EOIR), and the Office of Immigration Litigation (OIL). It also recommends that legislation be pursued to move other component parts of DHS to other agencies, including the Department of Transportation, the Department of Defense, the Department of the Treasury, and the FBI.


    25. Use military to break up domestic protests: FALSE


    The “protests” referenced in Mandate for Leadership are protests in Iran against its anti-American leadership; and protests of parents at school board meetings in opposition to critical race theory and COVID mandates. Both protests are referenced positively. Mandate also protests the FBI’s harassment of protesting parents and condemns the arrest by armed FBI agents of a man who had protested at an abortion clinic a year earlier.


    26. Mass deportation of immigrants and incarceration in “camps”: MISLEADING


    Mandate supports an orderly and lawful immigration system. It advocates that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Office of Removal Operations be primarily responsible for enforcing civil immigration regulations, including the removal of those who have violated our immigration laws. It also calls for additional resources to put an end to President Biden’s border crisis and enforce immigration laws.


    27. End birthright citizenship: FALSE


    There is no mention of ending birthright citizenship in Mandate for Leadership.


    28. Ban Muslims from entering the country: FALSE


    There is no mention of banning Muslims from entering the United States in Mandate for Leadership.


    29. Eliminate federal agencies like the FDA, EPA, NOAA and more: FALSE


    Mandate for Leadership’s plan would not eliminate the FDA or the EPA, and NOAA’s functions would be transferred to other agencies, the private sector, and states and territories.


    30. Continue to pack the Supreme Court and lower courts with right-wing judges: FALSE


    The only people calling for packing the judiciary are those on the Left, who do it every time the Supreme Court or a lower court makes decisions they don’t like.
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  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post

    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism..
    Just wanted to check and make sure you knew Ron Paul wasn’t in favor of globalism. Because he knows it would be the latter. How do I know that? Because Ron Paul spoke at the Birch Society’s annual gala for years, took their magazine and has said he never found anything he disagreed with. Dr. Paul isn’t a globalist.
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  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    ..
    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...vative-promise

    Sabbath Rest. God ordained the Sabbath as a day of rest, and until very recently the Judeo-Christian tradition sought to honor that mandate by moral and legal regulation of work on that day. Rest. God ordained the Sabbath as a day of rest, and until very recently the Judeo-Christian tradition sought to honor that mandate by moral and legal regulation of work on that day. Moreover, a shared day off makes it possible for families and communities to enjoy time off together, rather than as atomized individuals, and provides a healthier cadence of life for everyone. Unfortunately, that communal day of rest has eroded under the pressures of consumerism and secularism, especially for low-income workers. l Congress should encourage communal rest by amending the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA)9 to require that workers be paid time and a half for hours worked on the Sabbath. That day would default to Sunday, except for employers with a sincere religious observance of a Sabbath at a different time (e.g., Friday sundown to Saturday sundown); the obligation would transfer to that period instead. that communal day of rest has eroded under the pressures of consumerism and secularism, especially for low-income workers. l Congress should encourage communal rest by amending the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA)9 to require that workers be paid time and a half for hours worked on the Sabbath. That day would default to Sunday, except for employers with a sincere religious observance of a Sabbath at a different time (e.g., Friday sundown to Saturday sundown); the obligation would transfer to that period instead. Houses of worship (to the limited extent they may have FLSA-covered employees) and employers legally required to operate around the clock (such as hospitals and first responders) would be exempt, as would workers otherwise exempt from overtime.

    Straight up violation of the non establishment clause of the 1st Amendment. That's a hard no for me the same was an assault weapons ban would be a hard no for everybody else on this forum. The fact that they make an allowance for Saturday observance is irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    I think I would rather have Ben Carson than Scott.
    My preference for Tim Scott is based on his work on police reform. I like Ben Carson as a person though.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  33. #58
    I would support defunding fbi ,epa , homeland sec, eliminating affordable care act and ending fed climate crap, ending birthright citizen, race based practices etc so Im way more extreme than these nazis
    Last edited by oyarde; 07-10-2024 at 06:33 AM.
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  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I would support defunding fbi ,epa , omeland sec, eliminating affordable care act and ending fed climate crap, ending bitrite citizen, race based practices etc so Im way more extreme tan dese nazis
    Not the CIA? I’d add that one. Plus, get us out of the UN, NATO, World Bank, BIS, and every other international organization.
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  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Because he tried to do the one, and did not lift a finger to do the other. Didn't even mention it was going on.

    True story.
    That's a lie and you know it.
    I already proved it to you multiple times:


    Trump claimed, without any supporting evidence, that Democrats were behind the caravan, and raised conspiracy theories that the Central Americans had been paid to come to the United States for political reasons.
    “Now we’re starting to find out – and I won’t say it 100%, I’ll put a little tiny question mark at the end. But we’re probably not going to need it, but we have the fake news back there,” he told the crowd, adding a familiar jab at news reporters covering his campaign appearances.
    “A lot of money’s been passing through people to come up and try to get to the border by election day, because they think that’s a negative for us. Number one, they’re being stopped. And number two, regardless, that’s our issue.”
    Trump appeared to be referring to a video posted by the Florida representative Matt Gaetz, which he claimed showed women and children being given cash to “storm the US border @ election time”. He suggested without evidence that the source could be “Soros? US-backed NGOs?” referring to George Soros, an American billionaire who is the frequent subject of rightwing conspiracy theories.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...me-no-evidence


    Former President Donald Trump has said that during his presidency, he cut federal funding to three Central American countries in order to "punish" them. He said he wanted to punish them immigrants kept coming from their countries to seek entry into the United States.


    During a Thursday night interview with Fox News host Laura Ingraham, Ingraham played a clip of Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. In the clip, Pelosi said that Trump had withdrawn funding from Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador—three countries that make up a region called the Northern Triangle—in order to punish them.
    Ingraham asked, "Mr. President, did you withdraw money from Central America to punish them?"
    "Absolutely. That's right," Trump replied.
    "We were paying them $500 million a year," Trump told Ingraham. "Nobody knew what they were doing with the money, and they were sending criminals to our country."


    "They abused us in so many different ways," Trump continued. He then accused the countries' leaders of refusing to accept murderers and members of the violent MS13 gang that had been caught at the southern U.S. border by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection.
    "They wouldn't take them. I stopped paying the $500 million that we were wasting when giving it to them," Trump continued.


    At the end of March 2019, the Trump Administration announced that it was cutting nearly $450 million in direct funding to the countries because of their failure to stop emigration.
    The Northern Triangle is the primary source of migrants to the United States. The immigrants largely flee their region to escape high murder rates, gang violence, low employment as well as a lack of access to food, necessities and social services. Recent droughts and hurricanes have worsened conditions in the region.
    The direct funding cut off by Trump had sought to stem migration from the region by helping the countries politically and economically stabilize in an effort to reduce migration caused by violence and corruption.


    The program paid millions to dozens of local and international nongovernmental organizations (NGOs). These organizations conducted development and humanitarian programs on the U.S. government's behalf.
    However, because the countries had failed to reduce migration, Trump cut off the funds as a punishment. When the funding ended, many NGOs had to scale back their programs or end them prematurely, closing offices and laying off staff, according to NPR.

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...sed-us-1578913
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