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    Senior Israeli Lawmaker Suggests Nuclear Attack on Iran



    by Brett Wilkins
    Posted on July 4, 2024


    A longtime Israeli lawmaker and former defense minister took to the airwaves and social media on Wednesday to suggest his country should do whatever it takes to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

    “It is not possible anymore to stop the Iranian nuclear program with conventional means,” Avigdor Liberman of the right-wing Yisrael Beiteinu party said during a Channel 12 interview. “And we will have to use all the means that are available to us.”


    “We will have to stop with the deliberate policy of ambiguity, and it needs to be clear what is at stake here,” Liberman continued, apparently referring to Israel’s refusal to say whether it has nuclear weapons. “What is at stake here is the future of this nation, the future of the state of Israel, and we will not take any risks.”



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    When pressed on what he meant by stopping Iran with non-conventional means, Liberman said, “I said it very clearly.”

    “Right now there is no time to stop the Iranian nuclear program, their weaponization, by using conventional means,” he added.

    Liberman made similar comments on social media, where his remarks sparked alarm and condemnation. The lawmaker’s hardline call comes amid powder keg tensions between Tel Aviv and Tehran, which warned last week that any Israeli invasion of Lebanon – from which Iranian ally Hezbollah is resisting Israel’s annihilation of Gaza – would trigger an “obliterating war.”

    According to the Arms Control Association (ACA), a U.S.-based advocacy group, Iran is a “threshold state,” meaning “it has developed the necessary capacities to build nuclear weapons.”

    However, a February 2024 threat assessment report authored by the U.S. Director of National Intelligence stated that “Iran is not currently undertaking the key nuclear weapons-development activities necessary to produce a testable nuclear device.”

    “Since 2020, however, Tehran has stated that it is no longer constrained by any JCPOA limits,” the report says, a reference to so-called Iran Nuclear Deal from which the U.S. unilaterally withdrew in 2018 under former President Donald Trump. “Iran has greatly expanded its nuclear program, reduced [International Atomic Energy Agency] monitoring, and undertaken activities that better position it to produce a nuclear device, if it chooses to do so.”

    Iran maintains its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes, although Kamal Kharazi, a foreign policy advisor to Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, told the Financial Times earlier this week that his country would “have to change our doctrine” if faced with an existential threat.

    The ACA and others estimate that Israel has around 90 nuclear warheads and fissile material for approximately 200 more.

    Liberman isn’t the first Israeli lawmaker to suggest nuclear war against Iran. Far-right Deputy Knesset Speaker Nissim Vaturi – who sparked outrage by saying Israeli forces are “too humane” in Gaza and should “burn” the Palestinian territory – said in April that “in the event of a conflict with Iran, if we do not receive American ammunition, we will have to use everything we have.”


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    An Nuclear Attack On Iran would mean the complete end of support for the State of Israel.

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    fify...

    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    An Nuclear Attack On Iran would mean the complete end of support for the State of Israel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    An Nuclear Attack On Iran would mean the complete end of support for the State of Israel.
    Would it? I think you underestimate people’s belief in the divine command to support Israel even if they’re being evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Havnes View Post
    Would it? I think you underestimate people’s belief in the divine command to support Israel even if they’re being evil.
    You mean those so called Christian Radicals followers of John Hagee the pastor? the evangelicals? i wouldn't call them "Christians" especially if they believe in the end times nonsense or somehow that Iran is the great "evil one"
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 07-06-2024 at 04:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    You mean those so called Christian Radicals followers of John Hagee the pastor? the evangelicals? i wouldn't call them "Christians" especially if they believe in the end times nonsense or somehow that Iran is the great "evil one"
    Yeah and frankly it gets tiring being one of the few people who understands exactly how small that fraction of a fraction of a fraction of Christianity really is. It might seem like a large part of the West when you're visiting a bible-belt town of 20,000 or less where the biggest church has a few people in it who aren't afraid to say such things out loud. But the 99.999% of Christians who aren't attending a borderline David Koresh church are pretty aware that carrying water for the secular super-woke nation-state called Israel is at best heretical.

    This "support Israel because second coming" position has less actual support in the entire world than the Woke agenda does in any one particular US state.
    WHAT THE F*** DID YOU THINK​ WAS GOING TO HAPPEN???

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Yeah and frankly it gets tiring being one of the few people who understands exactly how small that fraction of a fraction of a fraction of Christianity really is. It might seem like a large part of the West when you're visiting a bible-belt town of 20,000 or less where the biggest church has a few people in it who aren't afraid to say such things out loud. But the 99.999% of Christians who aren't attending a borderline David Koresh church are pretty aware that carrying water for the secular super-woke nation-state called Israel is at best heretical.

    This "support Israel because second coming" position has less actual support in the entire world than the Woke agenda does in any one particular US state.
    IMHO, you may be underestimating the prevalence of the dispensationalist, apocalyptic, rapture, Armageddon, cult of the book of Revelations. It has permeated much of "Christianity" in the US. It shouldn't even be a book of the Bible, and that opinion was common when this nation was founded.
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    Would be a shame if some nation responded in-kind.



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