This is all they are working on right now.Originally Posted by 69360
Neither Biden nor Trump is the next Potus.
Homeland's crew is on it...
https://www.dhs.gov/leadership
a brief outline of their oversight for 2024 election...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...s/73345797007/
"When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch
And if Trump does win, we'll be in the same place. Remember, Trump kicked all this off by running up an overdraft of about eight trillion.
ya i dont believe dollar economy can be saved by anyone. I believe past of Reid , Pelosi and scumer pretty well killed it
Do something Danke
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I'm wondering at what point did this thread veer away from "Will Biden be replaced". What was the "SQUIRREL!!!" that Fido responded to.
Ever since the debate I've had the same feeling that I had during the Nixon impeachment. And I'm betting that a lot of Boomers (not in the Liberty Movement) are having the same emotional response. They've gotten complacent about government and politics. They didn't see JAN6 as an insurrection (having personally gone through the sixties); but were appalled by what they saw as a riot anyway. They figured that government was "safe" and just chugged along. And now they're seeing that the Commander in Chief is showing signs of senility and they're wondering WTF is going on. They're thinking, "How long has this been going on, and what have I been ignoring?".
The Nixon impeachment scenario left most Boomers feeling like either Nixon would be ousted (by impeachment or resignation), or the government would collapse. I was rooting for collapse - but most weren't. But most people were fixated by it - and the internet didn't even exist then.
The Democratic Party of 1968 was fractured over Vietnam. The Democratic Party of 2024 is fractured over Israel/Hamas - Biden is simply being used by the Hamas faction as an accelerant to the chemical reaction.
But most middle-of-the-road are simply saying, "WTF is going on" ... especially with the mainstream media using everything that's going on to boost their viewership ratings.
It's gotta be a great time to be a comedian.
I just voted that he will be replaced.
The reason is that Trump will have a huge turnout and I think they will have a problem saying that 90 million people turned out and voted for Biden with more votes than any President ever in the History of the USA.
He has to be replaced to cheat and win.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
This seems right to me. Regardless how determined Biden claims to be to stay in the race to the end, he will eventually cave in and quit the race voluntarily once the pressure to do that reaches a high enough level and he sees that that's his best available option.
And this is why the Dem nominee being someone other than Biden is still very realistic, while the GOP nominee being someone other than Trump is not at all realistic, unless some extreme circumstance that has not yet arisen dramatically changes things. The loyalists who keep supporting Biden could shrink to a level below what he needs to be able to carry on, so that voluntarily withdrawing becomes his only choice. That is realistic with Biden. It is not with Trump.
Last edited by Invisible Man; 07-09-2024 at 08:12 AM.
Ron PaulThere is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)
if they swap out biden now trump wins by large margin , libertarian wont get one percent but kennedy ,west , stein etc pull 6 , so they have to keep him to win
Last edited by oyarde; 07-09-2024 at 08:24 AM.
Do something Danke
You're saying that the Dems will do better with Biden than anybody else?
Ron PaulThere is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)
ya , they are not going to improve w/ kamala etc . Its the barak biden-obama regime- MIC ticket that is a proven dem winner , changing now will throw more votes to west , kennedy , stein. It wont even be close , trump lead in swing states will increase , election is only coming down to a few states now. So real question is do dems think they really have a chance without biden ?If so they havnt been polling
Last edited by oyarde; 07-09-2024 at 08:32 AM.
Do something Danke
I agree about Kamala. Likewise with any other woman, if they succumb to the pressure to put a woman at the top of the ticket. If they play to win and nominate a man, then they can only go up from Biden. I think Newsome would definitely do better than Biden, and I'm sure there are other options they have out there who would as well.
Ron PaulThere is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)
Except.... Michelle Obama.
I really think the GOP is burying their heads in the sand pretending and hoping that Biden will be the nominee. I don't see it happening.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
It'll be realistic when they replace Biden with somebody who can beat Trump. Then the panic will set in and Trump is gone as well.
Whether that's true or not, you'll never convince a certain segment of the population of that. And these cultists will exhort an exorbitant influence on who gets the GOP nom.
Again. How?
Replacing either candidate requires that the candidate willingly goes along with it. It will take a lot to convince either one of them to. It will take more to convince Trump than it will Biden. And there is infinitely less of a chance of Trump's support, both from powerful party insiders and from grassroots supporters, dropping down to a level that would be needed for him to agree to that. Losing campaign funding from bankers isn't going to make Trump quit.
Also, if these backroom power brokers you're talking about already have a Democrat candidate who is on track to beat Trump, why would they still need to replace Trump on the GOP ticket? Why not just let him lose?
Last edited by Invisible Man; 07-09-2024 at 09:39 AM.
Ron PaulThere is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)
Rob Reiner says Joe should step down
James Carville says it's inevitable
Michael Moore calls for Biden to step aside - calls it elder abuse
Stephen King...
Abigail Disney...
Ari Emanuel...
And it's not going to get better. The flood gates are open. And every public appearance by Biden will add more and more donors. In spite of their protestations, the left doesn't give 2 $#@!s about "democracy" - they want power. And they will easily ditch any semblance of a "democratic" selection if it means a better shot at power.
I'm sticking with Michele Obama. But it could really be a cheese sandwich at this point - all they need to do is have some short term excitement ginned up by the press and fake polls and the intel agencies will take care of the rest.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
Whomever the replacement is, will grow to outstretch Trump in the polls, and then win, no problem.
This is what they are really choosing, not whether Biden is out or not, which is already decided.
"When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch
Lots of interesting takes in here, but I think Vivek nails my thoughts @21:41
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
indeed. Nobody can save the dollar now. Its just about kicking the can down the road until it explodes. Maybe the elites will find a new solution or a solution will be found naturally by the economic forces in the world. (my preferred scenario with Bitcoin)
How did they block Ron at the convention? They change the rules and move the goalposts.
Donations are funding Trump's legal defenses. Take that away and he would quit in a minute.
That was easy. Ron wasn't on a path to win, and he didn't even really want to speak at the convention anyway. Opponents of Ron controlled the rules committee. Meanwhile, supporters of Trump control the rules committee now. Trump has plenty of donations from his minions. And he will continue to.
Ron PaulThere is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)
Wait and see. I think if one is replaced both will be.
It doesn't matter whether or not Biden is replaced. Either way the Democrats pretty much have this election locked down. Keep Biden as the nominee, and steal the election in a way more blatant than it was in 2020. Replace Biden with a different candidate, and you won't need to cheat to win since 3 months isn't enough time for Trump to close the gap. If Biden's replacement ends up $#@!ting the bed, just cheat them into office and claim Trump's legal issues are the reason he lost.
Face it, people need to just accept the fact that Trump has no pathway forward.
"Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."
Calvin Coolidge
I think @jmdrake had the only viable solution for the Marxists.
Drop Biden like plutonium and embrace JFK Jr. with no exceptions, no holds barred.
Let him run like a wildman with a flamethrower in a powder magazine, on vaccines, the war machine, debt, Israel, corporatocracy, the whole $#@!ting mess of it.
But they will not, because they are hopelessly corrupt. And I would add traitorous.
“It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan
If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.
Yeah. That and option #2 which some on the left have finally said outloud.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
The Democrats "Are Running" Kamala Harris | Part Of The Problem 1140
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMr2siuT_6M
{Dave Smith | 09 July 2024}
On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave takes a look at the media talking about getting Joe Biden out and Kamala in.
A Clinton-Harris ticket is currently being floated in Dem circles.
"When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch
CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #293:
Biden Cannot Be Forced Out of Race Democratically by Oligarchs
https://rumble.com/v56716l-biden-can...oligarchs.html
{Glenn Greenwald | 09 July 2024}
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