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Thread: Trump says he will get rid of the Department of Education if elected president

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    Trump says he will get rid of the Department of Education if elected president

    https://x.com/LeadingReport/status/1804538407013531992

    BREAKING: Former President Trump says he will get rid of the Department of Education if elected president.

    “We’ll have a tiny group to make sure everyone is teaching English, math, etc. Department of Education goes.”

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    “We’ll have a tiny group to make sure everyone is teaching English, math, etc. Department of Education goes.”
    LOL @ "etc."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    LOL @ "etc."
    We should get rid of the "Department of Education" ... and then replace it with a "Department of Teaching English, Math, Etc."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    We should get rid of the "Department of Education" ... and then replace it with a "Department of Teaching English, Math, Etc."

    All or nothing will get you nothing.

    And he says he's sending it back to the states where it belongs:

    https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1804595439142060437




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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    All or nothing will get you nothing.
    Tell it to William Lloyd Garrison (or Cassius Clay).

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And he says he's sending it back to the states where it belongs:

    https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1804595439142060437
    ... [tweet ...]
    So is he going to "shutdown the [federal DoE] and return education back to the states", or is he going to “have a tiny [LOL] group to make sure everyone is teaching English, math, etc." (i.e., a federal DoE)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Take what you can get and work for more.
    More of what? Double-talk?
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 06-23-2024 at 05:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And he says he's sending it back to the states where it belongs:

    Good grief.

    Is that how he's going to roll "Stop and Frisk" out, and pledge “to indemnify all police officers and law-enforcement officials"? Take federal tax money and leave it up to the states?

    In a campaign video last year, Trump laid out a sweeping second-term agenda on crime and policing. He promised “a record investment” in Federal Funds to help cities hire and train more police. He said he would require local law-enforcement agencies receiving Federal grants to implement an array of hard-line “proven policing measures” including “Stop-and-Frisk"

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...d-Frisk-Agenda

    Don't the states already have a right to refuse federal money?

    Without defunding and eliminating the federal agency altogether [education, "Stop and Frisk", NGOs, etc.], I'm not sure how many states would actually refuse "free" money, which they [including "red" states] can already refuse now if they wanted to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    All or nothing will get you nothing.
    Gee, that has happened in the real world exactly zero times.

    Maybe you should work on your math, history, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    We should get rid of the "Department of Education" ... and then replace it with a "Department of Teaching English, Math, Etc."


    You can take Trump out of the democrat party, but you can't take the democrat out of Trump.


    no Cabinet department has ever been dissolved without being reorganized in some way. The last time a department changed names came under President Jimmy Carter in 1979, when the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare became the Department of Health and Human Services and the Education Department was established.


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...rm/ar-BB1oIyRi
    Last edited by PAF; 06-23-2024 at 11:13 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Tell it to William Lloyd Garrison (or Cassius Clay).



    So is he going to "shutdown the [federal DoE] and return education back to the states", or is he going to “have a tiny [LOL] group to make sure everyone is teaching English, math, etc." (i.e., a federal DoE)?



    More of what? Double-talk?
    There is no massive nationwide movement like abolition, and the abolition movement had to be built on partial steps, like ending the importation of slaves, and getting states not to enforce the fugitive slave act.

    Work with Trump to get rid of the massive bureaucracy with its massive budget and powers, then we can worry about getting rid of whatever small oversight and statistics group he is talking about later.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    There is no massive nationwide movement like abolition, and the abolition movement had to be built on partial steps, like ending the importation of slaves, and getting states not to enforce the fugitive slave act.

    Work with Trump to get rid of the massive bureaucracy with its massive budget and powers, then we can worry about getting rid of whatever small oversight and statistics group he is talking about later.
    We are talking about the guy who hexed the Pentagon by creating a whole new Armed Force just for outer space, right? That guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    We are talking about the guy who hexed the Pentagon by creating a whole new Armed Force just for outer space, right? That guy?
    @Swordsmyth tries to stay clear of topics such as that. He has yet to even respond to the Federally-Funded Nationwide "Stop and Frisk" with complete Local LEO Immunity. Which would involve creating yet another Federal Agency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    @Swordsmyth tries to stay clear of topics such as that. He has yet to even respond to the Federally-Funded Nationwide "Stop and Frisk" with complete Local LEO Immunity. Which would involve creating yet another Federal Agency.
    That's because he loves the idea. He's just mad at you and me because we refuse to call that "freedom".

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    Nothing but election talk. He had four years to do so and never did.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Nothing but election talk. He had four years to do so and never did.
    Quote Originally Posted by Will Rogers
    Every four years it's the same. They come in on promises and go out on alibis.
    Except Swordy and his ilk are trying to get this clown back in on alibis.

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    Like I'm supposed to give a crap? Trump is egging on Israel which means wider war in the Middle East.

    Guy is as phony as a 3-dollar bill. I pay no attention to his bloody spittle.
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    Haven't we heard this one before?
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    I support eliminating Dept of Ed and red new deal. Like anyone else Ill believe it wen I see it. Dont believe need mentioned prior to election ,wont get any votes. Anyone not supporting similar agencies wasnt voting dem anyway , just win and do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Haven't we heard this one before?
    Liberals can't claim he never recycles anything.

    He reminds me of Bottom from A Midsummer Night's Dream. I will replace the monstrous big ED with a monstrous wee little ED.

    Any way you slice it, by Alpha Conservative standards it's still Erectile Dysfunction.

    Last edited by acptulsa; 06-23-2024 at 10:20 AM.
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    “Trump says he will balance the budget!”

    NOPE he won’t even BS this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Tell it to William Lloyd Garrison (or Cassius Clay).





    Or the FPC.
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    So, more soon-to-be-broken promises (assuming Trump is the next POTUS) from the king of same.

    As I recall Reagan made the same promise, and broke it.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

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    didnt Trump had four years to do most of these things?


    I am sure Trump handlers were rejecting most of his plans if not agenda.

    Just like withdrawing from Syria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    We are talking about the guy who hexed the Pentagon by creating a whole new Armed Force just for outer space, right? That guy?
    Space Force is not the crime against nature you seem to think it is.
    They are not doing anything the military wasn't already doing, but they are doing it more efficiently because the people doing it are now all in one dedicated branch.

    It's of no more consequence that the changing of the Army Air Corps into the Air Force, possibly less.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Like I'm supposed to give a crap? Trump is egging on Israel which means wider war in the Middle East.

    Guy is as phony as a 3-dollar bill. I pay no attention to his bloody spittle.
    Trump is not egging on Israel, he has criticized Israel, said the war needs to end, and said he will end it if it's still going.

    Biden is funding both sides and trying to keep the war going, and RFKommie has gone all in on Israel.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    didnt Trump had four years to do most of these things?


    I am sure Trump handlers were rejecting most of his plans if not agenda.

    Just like withdrawing from Syria.
    He didn't have a cooperative Congress.
    He almost got rid of O'Bummer care but McCain and the other RINOs stopped it.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He didn't have a cooperative Congress.
    He almost got rid of O'Bummer care but McCain and the other RINOs stopped it.
    There's a difference there you choose to ignore. He was commander in chief, and head of all executive branch agencies. So, he can do things (like curb departments and move troops) that don't require congress, unlike repealing a law.

    He could have drowned us in oranges, but didn't. And you want to brag that he made a big show of trying to get congress to give us an apple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    There's a difference there you choose to ignore. He was commander in chief, and head of all executive branch agencies. So, he can do things (like curb departments and move troops) that don't require congress, unlike repealing a law.

    He could have drowned us in oranges, but didn't. And you want to brag that he made a big show of trying to get congress to give us an apple.
    Bunk, they have made a bunch of laws to prevent that kind of thing and I just recently showed where they prohibited him from bringing troops home from S. Korea without permission from the Pentagon. (Because he had been bringing troops home from there and elsewhere)
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Bunk, they have made a bunch of laws to prevent that kind of thing and I just recently showed where they prohibited him from bringing troops home from S. Korea without permission from the Pentagon. (Because he had been bringing troops home from there and elsewhere)
    A real man would have exercised his prerogative as commander in chief, and used the Constitution as a defense. But Trump obviously never had the stomach for a fight. And I don't see any reason to believe he has developed one. He obviously prefers to lie down and let congress victimize him, because silly Republicans shower him with money every time that happens.
    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Yeah, well, you've already collected as many flies with vinegar as you're gonna.

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    Just need a tiny group to do the bare minimum and etc
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    Well, let's say I'm not impressed.

    Great sentiment, but the fact is that the Dept. of Education is an executive office of the president and it's members serve at the whim of the president.

    Which means they can be dismissed at any time by the president.

    GOP® has been using this "promise" as griftwood since Ronald Reagan and for over 40 years now, has yet to make good.

    Trump could do this on day one if he wanted to.
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