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    Zelensky Puts Trump & Vance on Enemies List for Impeding U.S. Aid

    Hundreds of prominent American organizations and individuals, including Donald Trump and Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) have been named in a Soviet-style enemies list as not supporting sending more U.S. weapons and money to Ukraine.
    This is not the first enemies list compiled by Ukrainian president Vladimir Zelensky, who cancelled elections in Ukraine and refused to leave office when his term ended in May.
    The report, titled: “Roller Coaster: From Trumpists to Communists. The forces in the U.S. impeding aid to Ukraine and how they do it,” was released last week by a Ukrainian NGO whose founder was trained by the U.S. State Dept.
    This is insane. A Ukrainian NGO just put out an enemies list that includes US citizens. This list blames us for Ukraine’s issues on the battlefield.
    Here’s where it gets crazy… The founder of this NGO (https://t.co/I5l9UMJ39c) was TRAINED by the U.S. State Department. The list… pic.twitter.com/ALJoBnRbhx
    — Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) June 8, 2024
    The list includes American politicians, journalists and social media personalities who are portrayed as tools of Russia, although the report does not demonstrate direct, proven ties to the Russian government or propagandists.
    Instead, the report claims that, “the arguments they use to urge authorities to distance themselves from Ukraine echo key messages of Russian propaganda aimed at depriving Ukrainians of the ability to defend themselves with Western weapons and funds.”
    Among the politicians and journalists who find themselves on the enemies list for obstructing further aid to Ukraine are Donald Trump, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), Col. Douglas Macgregor, former Congressman Ron Paul, Tucker Carlson, Max Blumenthal, Daniel McAdams and Alex Jones.
    Even left-wing organizations like CODEPINK and independent websites like antiwar.com and infowars.com are listed as not being sufficiently supportive of ongoing Western aid to Ukraine.
    Many of the individuals who made the “enemies list” are not actively rooting for Russia in its current military clash with Ukraine.
    They are public figures who oppose sending more U.S. taxpayer dollars and weapons to a conflict that has nothing to do with defending the American people or their security.
    The fact that such lists are being compiled by an organization that has been funded and trained by the U.S. government, is simply indefensible.



    https://amgreatness.com/2024/06/10/z...-enemies-list/
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    LOL

    The guy owned by the CIA is playing along with the Official Narrative of this psyop of an election. What a surprise.

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    His no longer a Ukrankian president.
    His mandate expired.

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    The things the globalists will do to try and convince people that Trump isn't on their side.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    The things the globalists will do to try and convince people that Trump isn't on their side.
    I guess Ron and Rand Paul are also on their side?

    Trump could cure cancer and invent free energy and you TDS victims would villainize him for it.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Swordexcuses game is so weak nowadays

    Somebody help him out to make his favorite crook look straight

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Swordexcuses game is so weak nowadays

    Somebody help him out to make his favorite crook look straight
    You guys are just mad this disproves your good friend Lindsey Graham's lies.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You guys are just mad this disproves your good friend Lindsey Graham's lies.
    Your act is @ all time low

    Take a week off & come back refreshed



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump could cure cancer and invent free energy and you TDS victims would villainize him for it.
    Instead:

    Trump met with Bill Gates numerous times.
    Gave us Operation Warp Speed [yet another federal agency] which worked hand-in-hand with DARPA.
    Threatened the FDA Chief to get it approved in a single day else be fired.
    Signed into law PREP Act to provide complete immunity from liability and prosecution.
    Forced American Tax Payers to fund and rollout the poison.

    And you GLORIFY him for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    And you GLORIFY him for that.
    No, in all fairness, he makes a thousand lame excuses for it.

    He glorifies his god by reporting his pipe dreams about what he'd like to see Trump do next as if they were campaign promises.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ...Trump is not a scientist and had no time to be involved with the scientific details.
    And if he had been made aware of the scientific details he had nothing he could do about them.

    He did not label what they created a vaccine, they labeled it one and told him it was one and he was in position to argue because he was busy with everything else he was doing to fight the garbage being thrown at him and doing things like promoting alternative treatments, and even had he had the time and decided to look into the matter he couldn't do anything to oppose the bureaucracy and media in the middle of an election year where the public had been whipped into a panic over the "pandemic" and the media was already blaming him for every single real or fake death.
    Catch the drift of it? He had no choice but believe the MSM (which he had just called "fake news" a thousand times) because he had hired none of the best people, couldn't make a better deal, and had more important things to do than to consider if he might be demanding his bureaus fast track the approval of poison for our veins.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 06-12-2024 at 06:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Instead:

    Trump met with Bill Gates numerous times.
    Gave us Operation Warp Speed [yet another federal agency] which worked hand-in-hand with DARPA.
    Threatened the FDA Chief to get it approved in a single day else be fired.
    Signed into law PREP Act to provide complete immunity from liability and prosecution.
    Forced American Tax Payers to fund and rollout the poison.

    And you GLORIFY him for that.
    Nope, I never supported OWS.
    But I recognize that Trump had no choice in an election year with congress, the bureaucracy, and the media at his throat and blaming him for every death.
    And yet he still resisted mandates, and pushed alternative therapies.
    They were trying to delay the "vaccine" so they could keep the lockdowns going at least until Brandon was sworn in after the steal to finish off the economy and mandate the shots before any bad effects were known, and they were going to blame him for not having the shots available sooner.

    And this is not a thread about the shots, this is a thread about Trump opposing Ukraine aid and the deepstate putting him on the same Ukie kill list as Ron and Rand.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    Yeah. Like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    He glorifies his god by reporting his pipe dreams about what he'd like to see Trump do next as if they were campaign promises.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And this is not a thread about the shots, this is a thread about Trump opposing Ukraine aid and the deepstate putting him on the same Ukie kill list as Ron and Rand.
    Did Swordy just personally put Ron Paul on a "kill list" that no one else had added him to? I wonder why. Could it be so he can claim Ron Paul and Trump have something -- anything -- in common?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 06-12-2024 at 07:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Nope, I never supported OWS.
    But I recognize that Trump had no choice in an election year with congress, the bureaucracy, and the media at his throat and blaming him for every death.
    And yet he still resisted mandates, and pushed alternative therapies.
    They were trying to delay the "vaccine" so they could keep the lockdowns going at least until Brandon was sworn in after the steal to finish off the economy and mandate the shots before any bad effects were known, and they were going to blame him for not having the shots available sooner.

    And this is not a thread about the shots, this is a thread about Trump opposing Ukraine aid and the deepstate putting him on the same Ukie kill list as Ron and Rand.
    Oh. Ok. So I won't bring up his proposed Federal Money for Nationwide "Stop and Frisk" and Local LEO Immunity then.

    I agree, why put Trump on a kill list with Ron and Rand when Trump himself sold missiles to Ukraine, and then went and spoke highly of and endorsed Johnson?

    Yeah, they hate him alright... right across the finish line. That way next term it will be another $8T $14T [adjusted]. Except, I know lots of folks who aren't giving him a second chance. I hope that doesn't hurt your feelings.
    Last edited by PAF; 06-12-2024 at 07:02 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Yeah. Like that.

    Did Swordy just personally put Ron Paul on a "kill list" that no one else had added him to? I wonder why. Could it be so he can claim Ron Paul and Trump have something -- anything -- in common?
    I remember Ron saying something like [and he was being too kind]: "Trump isn't my favorite president."
    Last edited by PAF; 06-12-2024 at 07:08 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I guess Ron and Rand Paul are also on their side?

    Trump could cure cancer and invent free energy and you TDS victims would villainize him for it.
    Trump could increase the deficit every single year of his administration and be fully complicit with the greatest loss of civil liberties in our nation's history and you would perform insane mental gymnastics to absolve him of wrongdoing.

    Oh yeah that one isn't hypothetical...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbunker View Post
    Trump could increase the deficit every single year of his administration and be fully complicit with the greatest loss of civil liberties in our nation's history and you would perform insane mental gymnastics to absolve him of wrongdoing.

    Oh yeah that one isn't hypothetical...
    From a 13 year member with only 38 posts. Wow! Jbunker must have felt that was important to be said.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    From a 13 year member with only 38 posts. Wow! Jbunker must have felt that was important to be said.
    A body can only take so much spam.

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Yeah. Like that.





    Did Swordy just personally put Ron Paul on a "kill list" that no one else had added him to? I wonder why. Could it be so he can claim Ron Paul and Trump have something -- anything -- in common?
    I guess you can't read? might want to get tutoring.

    Among the politicians and journalists who find themselves on the enemies list for obstructing further aid to Ukraine are Donald Trump, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), Col. Douglas Macgregor, former Congressman Ron Paul, Tucker Carlson, Max Blumenthal, Daniel McAdams and Alex Jones.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbunker View Post
    Trump could increase the deficit every single year of his administration and be fully complicit with the greatest loss of civil liberties in our nation's history and you would perform insane mental gymnastics to absolve him of wrongdoing.

    Oh yeah that one isn't hypothetical...
    Congress increased the deficit by veto proof margins and Trump opposed the lockdowns etc.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    fact REMINDER swordexcuses

    Trump tweeted multiple times that Cong Massie should be KICKED out of the Republican party for demanding Congress shows up in person & vote for the LARGEST spending bill ever.

    Trump will NEVER GO after his Big Pharma Country Club Buddies

    HE should be kicked out of Republican party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    fact REMINDER swordexcuses

    Trump tweeted multiple times that Cong Massie should be KICKED out of the Republican party for demanding Congress shows up in person & vote for the LARGEST spending bill ever.

    Trump will NEVER GO after his Big Pharma Country Club Buddies

    HE should be kicked out of Republican party.
    + REP







    Maybe this will keep @Swordsmyth busy for a while and he can come up with more funny-but-not-funny things to say:

    Donald Trump On The Record
    Last edited by PAF; 06-13-2024 at 07:24 AM.
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    Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) said former President Trump criticized the $61 billion for Ukraine passed under Speaker Mike Johnson’s (R-La.) leadership and signaled his disinterest in sending the war-torn country more support during his Thursday meeting with House Republicans.
    “TRUMP ON UKRAINE: ‘They’re never going to be there for us,’” Gaetz wrote in a post on the social platform X, sharing comments from Trump at the morning meeting.

    According to Gaetz, Trump also asserted the U.S. should “pay OUR TROOPS” instead of sending billions of dollars to Ukraine.
    “Trump trashing the Ukraine Aid to @SpeakerJohnson’s face is so epic,” Gaetz added.

    More at: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...e-gop-meeting/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Trump vows to halt ‘never-ending’ payments to Ukraine

    https://en.mehrnews.com/news/216548/...nts-to-Ukraine
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump vows to halt ‘never-ending’ payments to Ukraine

    https://en.mehrnews.com/news/216548/...nts-to-Ukraine
    You've been cherry-picking from among Trump's many and often contradictory promises and showing us the ones you think we'd like for eight years now. And still we don't believe campaign promises unless the person has shown a tendency to do similar things in the past.

    When did Trump ever once cut funding for the military industrial complex, again?



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You've been cherry-picking from among Trump's many and often contradictory promises and showing us the ones you think we'd like for eight years now. And still we don't believe campaign promises unless the person has shown a tendency to do similar things in the past.

    When did Trump ever once cut funding for the military industrial complex, again?
    He cut lots of foreign aid, ending foreign aid to the Palestinians being a prominent example.
    He also ended the Afghanistan war which was going to seriously cut MIC profits, that's why Joe left everything behind so we would have to buy replacement equipment to make it up to them.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You've been cherry-picking from among Trump's many and often contradictory promises and showing us the ones you think we'd like for eight years now. And still we don't believe campaign promises unless the person has shown a tendency to do similar things in the past.

    When did Trump ever once cut funding for the military industrial complex, again?

    He didn't. And now Trump even wants to build the GREATEST DOME EVER.

    Trump: “We’re giving billions of dollars to other countries so they can build a dome. But we don’t have a dome ourselves. We’re going to have the greatest dome ever.”


    I'm sure @Swordsmyth will tell us why we must fund the Military Industrial Complex further.
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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He also ended the Afghanistan war...
    When are you going to figure out that repeating the same lie over and over will never convince this crowd that it's true?

    Go play propaganda games with the children in the Treehouse. They're more suscept--er, I mean receptive than we are.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    When are you going to figure out that repeating the same lie over and over will never convince this crowd that it's true?

    Go play propaganda games with the children in the Treehouse. They're more suscept--er, I mean receptive than we are.
    You and all the others who instantly tried to give the credit for Trump's peace deal and exit plan to Biden who tried to sabotage it are the liars.

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You and all the others who instantly tried to give the credit for Trump's peace deal and exit plan to Biden who tried to sabotage it are the liars.
    Or you're lying about a withdrawal so rushed it was botched having anything to do with Trump. Or the Deep State plan proceeded without regard to which of these two puppets was figurehead at the time. Or...

    Just because you're double jointed and like patting yourself on the back doesn't mean you're right about anything.

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Or you're lying about a withdrawal so rushed it was botched having anything to do with Trump. Or the Deep State plan proceeded without regard to which of these two puppets was figurehead at the time. Or...

    Just because you're double jointed and like patting yourself on the back doesn't mean you're right about anything.
    Biden delayed the withdrawal and all the preparations for it.
    As soon as he got in he threw Trumps withdrawal plan out and that has been admitted.
    Biden was hoping that by breaking the agreed withdrawal timetable the Taliban would start attacking us again and he could keep the war going, when that failed he botched on purpose and tried to blame Trump.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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