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Thread: Libertarian Party 2024 POTUS/VP ticket: Chase Oliver & Mike ter Maat

  1. #151
    Idaho Libertarian Secretary Urges LNC to Remove Chase Oliver from Presidential Ticket

    https://independentpoliticalreport.c...ential-ticket/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  3. #152

    https://x.com/JohnStossel/status/1812219698676961512
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    https://x.com/ChaseForLiberty/status...36050485461098
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  7. #155
    First Milei, then this guy. Let us give credit where credit is due.


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  9. #157
    https://x.com/JoshuaAtLarge/status/1852866296951517692

  10. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://x.com/JoshuaAtLarge/status/1852866296951517692
    His answer is fairly logical, in a perfect world. But it isn't a perfect world. Covid more than anything has opened the eyes of people to the (false) god-like stature of the medical establishment and Doctors. So to say that "anything the Doctor says goes" is naive at best. It is fiscally irresponsible when it is taxpayer's money being used.

    Yes, people in prison deserve basic healthcare. And unfortunately, it is part of the cost. But elective cosmetic surgery is not basic medical care, and it is ridiculous (and a moral hazard) to provide it to prisoners.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  11. #159
    Chase Oliver is losing to the guy who dropped out of the race over a month ago:


  12. #160
    LP will break down and fade away

    RIP
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch



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  14. #161
    https://x.com/LibertyLockPod/status/1854424219422949801
    {Clint Russell @LibertyLockPod | 07 November 2024}

    I've gone out of my way not to talk about Chase Oliver, good or bad. I wanted him to sink or swim on his own merits. Now that the results are in, I think it's fair that I give my thoughts. Just for tactical purposes moving forward.

    He will not surpass 600K votes.

    Here's why:

    1. A 3rd party bid is primarily valuable in terms of messaging. He declined Timcast and POTP with Dave Smith. Both enormous audiences with highly persuadable likely voters. I assume he declined because he thought the interviews could be contentious. Huge mistake. If you can't take our ideas into even semi hostile environments, you have no business being in politics at all. He proceeded to do no media that even approached the reach of either of these shows. Game over.

    2. Most libertarians are not woke. We are individualists. We reject collectivist oppressed versus oppressor narratives. Running woke candidates is a dead end. Particularly now. The delegates chose him as their candidate. I hope they will reflect on that choice.

    3. Blue pilled libertarians are useless in national politics. Ron Paul didn't wake people up or gain notoriety by telling people about the housing crisis two years after it happened. He did it by warning them 5 years before it happened. Chase was all in on the covid hysteria for many years. People thought I was attempting to shame him when I asked about his Vax status. Wrong. I was challenging his ability to see thru propaganda. To know things in advance of the public. Can he warn them? The answer is no, he can't. He carried this same blue pilled analysis into the transing kids phenomena. Going so far as to advocate for state funded sex changes for prisoners under the guise of "health care". He chose the woke answer over the right answer. In large part because he doesn't think for himself. He doesn't do his own research. He follows the crowd. Again, useless as a 3rd party candidate. Better suited to the democrat party, just being honest.

    4. Instead of accepting feedback about his bad ideas, from his constituents no less, he shielded himself with claims of homophobia and bigotry. Woke 101: I'm not wrong, I'm a victim. Useless.

    5. Lastly, as a consequence of his blue pilled worldview, he offered very little in the way of attention grabbing ideas. Can you wake people up while being cautious? Not really. Ron Paul got booed when he courageously educated Rudy Giuliani about blowback during the 08' GOP debates. Didn't matter. He was right. He woke up millions as to the horrors of our warfare state as a consequence. That's how legends are made. Take the boos, tell the truth. Fck the consequences. That's how you shake people awake.

    I don't hate Chase Oliver. I love libertarian ideas. I want someone who can deliver our ideas in a way that ignites a fire, the way Ron Paul did. He couldn't do that, he never could. I told you that 9 months ago. Not because he's a bad person, because he has bad ideas.

    You can get mad at me for telling you the truth. It doesn't matter. Someone needed to.

    Chase Oliver proudly rejected Ron Paul so the libertarians rejected him. If that fact surprises you even slightly then you have no business being in the libertarian party.

    Onward.

    https://x.com/LibertyLockPod/status/1854424219422949801

  15. #162
    NH just did ten times more to advance the cause of liberty than Oliver could ever hope to accomplish.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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