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  1. #271
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    @acptulsa

    Good snapshot of what Democraps think about any kind of backlash on Trump conviction and what might follow. They aren't worried and seem confident they're in complete control now:

    https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219005635
    They're also idiots who will regurgitate anything they're spoon-fed, as long as their egos are stroked a little along the way. So?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Last edited by acptulsa; 06-04-2024 at 07:11 AM.



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  3. #272
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Yeah, no. No way. What's funny about that, though, is the Atlantic suggesting Democrap's would refuse to go along with election results. I mean, what about "our democracy"?
    What about it? Remember Hillary whining in '16?

    No way. Yet, you have to admit this: Since they stuck McCain in people's faces, Republicans have been increasingly restive. That's what fueled the Ron Paul phenomenon. Now they're deliberately antagonizing the same people, who just happen to be the most productive, most necessary workers, and the demographic with the most guns, too. You don't think Trump will make a good pacifier for them? You don't think threatening to withhold Trump from them will make them even more willing to be pacified by him when they do get him? Do they seem to be in the mood to hold his feet to the fire until he keeps his promises? Are you?

    Think about it.

    Even as technical progress should be making us all rich as Croesus, they're systematically lowering our expectations. They literally have us on our knees begging, "Don't make it worse!"
    Last edited by acptulsa; 06-04-2024 at 11:37 AM.



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  6. #274
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The Elector slates are on the ballot not the Nominee, and only the Constitution may define who is eligible.
    If a state wants to pass a law as far as who is eligible and who isnt, Im fairly certain that power is delegated to the States, not at a Federal level. Quite possible I am wrong but if it is done at a State level, we know exactly why they had to push the Felony Guilty charge through as fast as possible! Please correct me if I am wrong tho...
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  7. #275
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    If a state wants to pass a law as far as who is eligible and who isnt, Im fairly certain that power is delegated to the States, not at a Federal level.
    Been there, done that: SCOTUS Unanimously Rules States Cannot Disqualify Trump from 2024 Ballot

    That doesn't mean they might not try again, though.

  8. #276
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    They're also idiots who will regurgitate anything they're spoon-fed, as long as their egos are stroked a little along the way. So?
    I agree that they're idiots. My point was that they're aren't worried about backlash from the right, in spite of what media or Maxine Waters are saying. They're at peak arrogance, now. The problem is that they have entire establishment on their side.
    'Here......Once again, we have gathered in the depths of a small Cotswold town called Stow-On-the Wold, among the town and country folk, we can witness the lesser spotted Karens, going about other peoples business, in their natural habitat'.......

    -In the voice of Sir David Attenborough

  9. #277
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    The problem is that they have entire establishment on their side.
    Only fools count on that to last.

    The swamp is famously fickle.

  10. #278
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What about it? Remember Hillary whining in '16?

    No way. Yet, you have to admit this: Since they stuck McCain in people's faces, Republicans have been increasingly restive. That's what fueled the Ron Paul phenomenon. Now they're deliberately antagonizing the same people, who just happen to be the most productive, most necessary workers, and the demographic with the most guns, too. You don't think Trump will make a good pacifier for them? You don't think threatening to withhold Trump from them will make them even more willing to be pacified by him when they do get him? Do they seem to be in the mood to hold his feet to the fire until he keeps his promises? Are you?

    Think about it.

    Even as technical progress should be making us all rich as Croesus, they're systematically lowering our expectations. They literally have us on our knees begging, "Don't make it worse!"
    Not gonna dispute what you've said, though my expectations for Trump are super low. I just question your idea that this is the plan (as you've laid it out). I absolutely disagree that the globalists and commies want Trump in office.
    'Here......Once again, we have gathered in the depths of a small Cotswold town called Stow-On-the Wold, among the town and country folk, we can witness the lesser spotted Karens, going about other peoples business, in their natural habitat'.......

    -In the voice of Sir David Attenborough

  11. #279
    Donald Trump Convicted | Part Of The Problem 1128
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    {Dave Smith | 04 June 2024}

    On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave and Robbie discuss the multiple felony conviction of Donald Trump. We then take a look at the Libertarian Candidate for President and some of his recent takes on Reason.


  12. #280
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Only fools count on that to last.

    The swamp is famously fickle.
    BLM & Antifa rioted all summer of 2020. Left wing prosecutors, mayors, governors, lawyers organizations, all covered for them. The fraudulently raked in hundreds of millions of dollars which went straight into the pockets of a few and nobody has been prosecuted. Prior to that, there were numerous violent attacks at speaking engagements on campuses. No prosecutions. For several years violent criminals have been let go without being prosecuted. January 6th rioters? Over 1000 in jail or prison. Old lady abortion protesters, in jail. How can you can not see exactly where the establishment is?
    'Here......Once again, we have gathered in the depths of a small Cotswold town called Stow-On-the Wold, among the town and country folk, we can witness the lesser spotted Karens, going about other peoples business, in their natural habitat'.......

    -In the voice of Sir David Attenborough



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  14. #281
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    How can you can not see exactly where the establishment is?
    Ever study history? It's an absolute fact that, once totalitarianism regimes take power, they shoot their best useful idiots first. They're no longer useful, they're malcontents, and they're still idiots.

    They don't care about party, but they want you to. They want to piss conservatives off enough to get these self-styled protectors of the Constitution to throw it away.

    What have they cast in stone? Why are you acting like nothing can ever change? This is an abusive relationship, and one of the hallmarks of those us the abused bounces in and out if favor constantly, and seemingly randomly.

    Come on. There aren't two deep states and a psyop is a con game. Nothing static about it. You're looking to see where you stand, and abusers are looking to ensure you never know.

  15. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Ever study history? It's an absolute fact that, once totalitarianism regimes take power, they shoot their best useful idiots first. They're no longer useful, they're malcontents, and they're still idiots.

    They don't care about party, but they want you to. They want to piss conservatives off enough to get these self-styled protectors of the Constitution to throw it away.

    What have they cast in stone? Why are you acting like nothing can ever change? This is an abusive relationship, and one of the hallmarks of those us the abused bounces in and out if favor constantly, and seemingly randomly.

    Come on. There aren't two deep states and a psyop is a con game. Nothing static about it. You're looking to see where you stand, and abusers are looking to ensure you never know.
    Okay, but why do you think they want or need Trump in office when they'already created near totalitarian rule and ignore the constitution? They don't need to install a Trump to get there.
    'Here......Once again, we have gathered in the depths of a small Cotswold town called Stow-On-the Wold, among the town and country folk, we can witness the lesser spotted Karens, going about other peoples business, in their natural habitat'.......

    -In the voice of Sir David Attenborough

  16. #283
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    If a state wants to pass a law as far as who is eligible and who isnt, Im fairly certain that power is delegated to the States, not at a Federal level. Quite possible I am wrong but if it is done at a State level, we know exactly why they had to push the Felony Guilty charge through as fast as possible! Please correct me if I am wrong tho...
    The Constitution defines eligibility for POTUS, that means no state can.
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  17. #284
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Okay, but why do you think they want or need Trump in office when they'already created near totalitarian rule and ignore the constitution? They don't need to install a Trump to get there.
    Oh, my.

    No, they're still restrained. Are they still going to the trouble and expense to fix elections? Could they force that Jab on everyone?

    When it comes to power, sociopaths don't know the meaning of the word enough.

  18. #285
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Oh, my.

    No, they're still restrained. Are they still going to the trouble and expense to fix elections? Could they force that Jab on everyone?

    When it comes to power, sociopaths don't know the meaning of the word enough.
    It would gain them nothing to put Trump in.
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  19. #286
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It would gain them nothing to put Trump in.
    I don't see why not. They sure did gain a lot from his last tenure as president.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M1SL
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  20. #287
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    I don't see why not. They sure did gain a lot from his last tenure as president.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M1SL
    Didn't they, though? At Warp Speed.

  21. #288
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I'm independent. @Swordsmyth and @dannno will tell you I'm the about as far from a Trumpkin as one can get. And this BS verdict would make me MORE likely to support him, not less, if I felt I had to choose between the "lesser of two evils." This was legal assassination pure and simple.
    I totally agree. Trump was a terrible president, only slightly less terrible than Biden and Obama. The federal government doubled in size under his watch. A lot of the price inflation we're seeing now is from the spending, borrowing and printing during Trump's term.

    But this is so obviously a fake, show trial. I don't see how anyone on this forum could disagree. Even if you ignore the fact that these trials are all made up charges, what are the odds that Trump gets charged with all these things, most of them from many years ago, right before the election??? It's mathematically impossible to be a coincidence.

    To me the idea of jailing your political opposition is much wore than anything Trump has done.



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  24. #290
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    BLM & Antifa rioted all summer of 2020. Left wing prosecutors, mayors, governors, lawyers organizations, all covered for them. The fraudulently raked in hundreds of millions of dollars which went straight into the pockets of a few and nobody has been prosecuted. Prior to that, there were numerous violent attacks at speaking engagements on campuses. No prosecutions. For several years violent criminals have been let go without being prosecuted. January 6th rioters? Over 1000 in jail or prison. Old lady abortion protesters, in jail. How can you can not see exactly where the establishment is?
    I've been wondering about something similar. The commonly held theory here is that the deep state is in control and they hate trump because he's an outsider. Maybe it's more of a republican/democrat thing, not insider/outsider? Maybe they hate trump because he's a republican that is favored to win? The media hated bush and he seemed pretty "insider/deep stateish" to me. And they loved obama and biden. My guess is the media and deep state will hate the next republican favored to win, no matter what. I think the truth is probably a combination of both. The deep state and media both like the status quo and the left.

  25. #291
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    I totally agree. Trump was a terrible president, only slightly less terrible than Biden and Obama. The federal government doubled in size under his watch. A lot of the price inflation we're seeing now is from the spending, borrowing and printing during Trump's term.

    But this is so obviously a fake, show trial. I don't see how anyone on this forum could disagree. Even if you ignore the fact that these trials are all made up charges, what are the odds that Trump gets charged with all these things, most of them from many years ago, right before the election??? It's mathematically impossible to be a coincidence.

    To me the idea of jailing your political opposition is much wore than anything Trump has done.
    THIS
    'Here......Once again, we have gathered in the depths of a small Cotswold town called Stow-On-the Wold, among the town and country folk, we can witness the lesser spotted Karens, going about other peoples business, in their natural habitat'.......

    -In the voice of Sir David Attenborough

  26. #292
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    I've been wondering about something similar. The commonly held theory here is that the deep state is in control and they hate trump because he's an outsider. Maybe it's more of a republican/democrat thing, not insider/outsider? Maybe they hate trump because he's a republican that is favored to win? The media hated bush and he seemed pretty "insider/deep stateish" to me. And they loved obama and biden. My guess is the media and deep state will hate the next republican favored to win, no matter what. I think the truth is probably a combination of both. The deep state and media both like the status quo and the left.
    At the minion level, it is partisan. At the higher levels, they hate Trump because, although he's stupid and able to be manipulated, he's not inclined to cede US sovereignty to international bodies or go along with Agenda 2030. Pulling the US out of the Paris Climate Accord really pissed them off because that's both a money make for them and THE way to transfer wealth out of US. Trump knows the US can't run on windmills and solar panels and is into fossil fuels. That's in direct opposition to Agenda 2030 and sending us into the stone age which is their goal.
    'Here......Once again, we have gathered in the depths of a small Cotswold town called Stow-On-the Wold, among the town and country folk, we can witness the lesser spotted Karens, going about other peoples business, in their natural habitat'.......

    -In the voice of Sir David Attenborough

  27. #293
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    At the minion level, it is partisan. At the higher levels, they hate Trump because, although he's stupid and able to be manipulated, he's not inclined to cede US sovereignty to international bodies or go along with Agenda 2030. Pulling the US out of the Paris Climate Accord really pissed them off because that's both a money make for them and THE way to transfer wealth out of US. Trump knows the US can't run on windmills and solar panels and is into fossil fuels. That's in direct opposition to Agenda 2030 and sending us into the stone age which is their goal.
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  28. #294
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    I've been wondering about something similar. The commonly held theory here is that the deep state is in control and they hate trump because he's an outsider. Maybe it's more of a republican/democrat thing, not insider/outsider? Maybe they hate trump because he's a republican that is favored to win? The media hated bush and he seemed pretty "insider/deep stateish" to me. And they loved obama and biden. My guess is the media and deep state will hate the next republican favored to win, no matter what. I think the truth is probably a combination of both. The deep state and media both like the status quo and the left.
    I think Trump's ego is a liability for the deep state.

    For example, he has the audacity to think that being commander-in-chief means he is supposed to be the commander. He doesn't know that he's just supposed to eat ice cream, mumble incoherently, and sign off on whatever the Pentagon puts on his desk. I would say that having a president who actually has final say over the military ended shortly after Eisenhower's presidency. He was probably the last commander-in-chief.

    Of course, Trump's ego is as much a liability for those who support him as well, as he seems to have a serious issue with taking advice from people who want him to be successful. And he doesn't take constructive criticism well, as evidenced by his spat with Thomas Massie, which boiled over into threatening his seat. (thankfully that's up to the people of Kentucky, not Trump)

    And he still won't admit that Warp Speed was a mistake, because that would be a sign of weakness (in his eyes).
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 06-05-2024 at 04:19 PM.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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  29. #295
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    I think Trump's ego is a liability for the deep state.

    For example, he has the audacity to think that being commander-in-chief means he is supposed to be the commander. He doesn't know that he's just supposed to eat ice cream, mumble incoherently, and sign off on whatever the Pentagon puts on his desk. I would say that having a president who actually has final say over the military ended shortly after Eisenhower's presidency. He was probably the last commander-in-chief.

    Of course, Trump's ego is as much a liability for those who support him as well, as he seems to have a serious issue with taking advice from people who want him to be successful. And he doesn't take constructive criticism well, as evidenced by his spat with Thomas Massie, which boiled over into threatening his seat. (thankfully that's up to the people of Kentucky, not Trump)

    And he still won't admit that Warp Speed was a mistake, because that would be a sign of weakness (in his eyes).
    I think trump's biggest weakness is he wants to be popular so he won't do the most important thing, and that's to cut the size of government.

  30. #296
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    At the minion level, it is partisan. At the higher levels, they hate Trump because, although he's stupid and able to be manipulated, he's not inclined to cede US sovereignty to international bodies or go along with Agenda 2030. Pulling the US out of the Paris Climate Accord really pissed them off because that's both a money make for them and THE way to transfer wealth out of US. Trump knows the US can't run on windmills and solar panels and is into fossil fuels. That's in direct opposition to Agenda 2030 and sending us into the stone age which is their goal.
    I agree with most of that except I don't think the people at the highest levels of government want to send us to the stone age. At least not on purpose. I think they want what everybody wants. Lots of money and a cushy lifestyle. And so they want to stay in power and the best way to stay in power is to keep the economy intact. The problem is they want short term solutions to keep the economy going. Which means spending, borrowing and printing which will ultimately lead to hyperinflation, which is the end game that they don't want.



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  32. #297
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    I think trump's biggest weakness is he wants to be popular so he won't do the most important thing, and that's to cut the size of government.
    Very much! He craves approval and he craves it from those who hate his guts. Definitely daddy issues.
    'Here......Once again, we have gathered in the depths of a small Cotswold town called Stow-On-the Wold, among the town and country folk, we can witness the lesser spotted Karens, going about other peoples business, in their natural habitat'.......

    -In the voice of Sir David Attenborough

  33. #298
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    I agree with most of that except I don't think the people at the highest levels of government want to send us to the stone age. At least not on purpose. I think they want what everybody wants. Lots of money and a cushy lifestyle. And so they want to stay in power and the best way to stay in power is to keep the economy intact. The problem is they want short term solutions to keep the economy going. Which means spending, borrowing and printing which will ultimately lead to hyperinflation, which is the end game that they don't want.
    What about blowing up all of the coal plants? They DO want Agenda 2030 and they can't possibly be stupid enough to not know it would destroy civilization.
    'Here......Once again, we have gathered in the depths of a small Cotswold town called Stow-On-the Wold, among the town and country folk, we can witness the lesser spotted Karens, going about other peoples business, in their natural habitat'.......

    -In the voice of Sir David Attenborough

  34. #299
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    I don't see why not. They sure did gain a lot from his last tenure as president.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M1SL
    They also lost a lot.
    The gains were not because of him and the losses were.

    They would gain absolutely nothing from Trump that they wouldn't get far more of from Biden.
    They will not get nearly as much from Trump this time and will lose far more.
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    The Cultist Hath Spoken.

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