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    President Trump Sends Message of Support for Cryptocurrency

    This is interesting. Only a very small segment of the U.S. electorate seemingly understands the ramification of a dollar-based central bank digital currency (CBDC) for the USA. There is also evidence the Russian sanctions were created as the starter fuse for the CBDC process.



    More at: https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ryptocurrency/
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    Trump said two things at the Libertarian Convention in DC that I think won over a lot more libertarian voters than anybody could have predicted.

    Pro-crypto, anti-Central Bank Digital Currency

    Commute Ross Ulbricht's sentence on day 1
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    BREAKING: ���� Donald Trump says “I will ensure that the future of crypto and #Bitcoin will be made in the USA”

    “I will support the right to self custody to the nations 50 million crypto holders” pic.twitter.com/OSfUL91McJ

    — Bitcoin Magazine (@BitcoinMagazine) May 26, 2024

    https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/...37413907214356
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Commute Ross Ulbricht's sentence on day 1
    Why didn't he do that the first time around?
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    Oh boy, support for companies!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Why didn't he do that the first time around?
    He didn't have Vivek in his ear then is my guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bern View Post
    He didn't have Vivek in his ear then is my guess.
    How is Ramaswamy going to make him keep his promises? Keeping promises isn't exactly his standard method of operation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Trump said two things at the Libertarian Convention in DC that I think won over a lot more libertarian voters than anybody could have predicted.

    Pro-crypto, anti-Central Bank Digital Currency

    Commute Ross Ulbricht's sentence on day 1
    It is almost like in a previous universe, a pigmented presidential candidate gave lip service to:

    Auditing the Fed

    and pardoning Julian Assange

    How did that turn out?

    I guess some people have to be fooled twice.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Trump said two things...
    Yeah, Trump says lots of things...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Why didn't he do that the first time around?
    More importantly, why no promise for Julian Assange or Edward Snowden? Neither of them were ever accused of ordering a hit on anyone.
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    More importantly, why no promise for Julian Assange or Edward Snowden? Neither of them were ever accused of ordering a hit on anyone.
    Doesn't want to shoot entire load at one time. I bet he says that before election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Trump said two things at the Libertarian Convention in DC that I think won over a lot more libertarian voters than anybody could have predicted.

    Pro-crypto, anti-Central Bank Digital Currency

    Commute Ross Ulbricht's sentence on day 1
    So no pardon for Julian Assange, Edward Snowden or Thomas Drake (no relation to me), but commute the sentence of someone dumb enough to have a chat log talking about how he didn't mind if a certain party got executed and applauding his associate being kidnapped?

    https://www.wired.com/2015/02/read-t...ssassinations/

    Redandwhite 3/25/2013 10:00: I was asked to contact you. We are the people friendlychemist owes money to. He tells us that you owe him money and a long boring story about some of this and some of that. As far as we are concerned - we gave him the product. Where it went and how does not matter. We hold him and him only responsible for the missing product/money.We don't care if you stole it from him/borrowed it from him or anything. It was his responsibility to pay for it. He asked me to contact you anyways. What did you want to talk to us about?

    Dread Pirate Roberts 3/26/2013 18:27: Sorry for the delayed response and thank you for getting in touch. We've had some technical difficulties the past 24 hours I've had to deal with. Just to be clear, I do not owe him any money, but he has told me his situation and wants my help. I'm not entirely sure what the best action to take is, but I wanted to be in communication with you to see if we can come to a conclusion that works for everyone.
    friendlychemist aside, we should talk about how we can do business. Obviously you have access to illicit substances in quantity, and are having issues with bad distributors. If you don't already sell here on Silk Road, I'd like you to consider becoming a vendor. Many people here purchase in bulk as well as retail quantities. Being a vendor, you'll have the protection that dealing anonymously in bitcoin provides, and you'll have protection against people like friendlychemist ripping you off because all transactions are conducted through my escrow. I encourage you to read the wiki and forum ... and consider becoming a vendor here.
    So, if there is anything I can do as the admin here to help you get involved in Silk Road, or anything I can do to help with your situation with friendlychemist, please just let me know.
    -DPR

    Redandwhite 3/26/2013 20:08: That is interesting. How much is it possible to sell on here if we listed every product far cheaper than everyone else? We have a majority hold over most of the movement of products in western Canada (one of the main drug ports to North America). I have researched your site and the concept seems interesting to me (as long as it is anonymous as everyone makes it out to be). We produce LSD/nBome/Ketamine/MDMA/Meth/GHB and import cocaine and heroin in massive bulk amounts. We have a lot of workers who run their own sub distribution networks for the streets, but if it is lucrative we are always looking to expand.
    In my partners eyes all they will see is that because of online dealing we are out 700k so I'm not sure they will go for it.
    FriendlyChemist refuses to meet up with us because of what he fears will happen. People are starting to suspect that he will go to the police, which is not a problem because he would never be able to give up anyone of importance since he only has ever had contact with low level people in our group and they always take precautions so that even if someone were to turn informant, they would not be able to get any charges to stick. It's a shame because he moved a fair amount of product.
    If you can get FriendlyChemist to meet up with us, or pay us his debt then I'm sure I would be able to get people in our group to give this online side of the business a try. As it stands right now, there are people looking for him and since he has avoided our group, I'm not sure what will happen since he owes us money and is avoiding us.
    I've looked around your site, and the prices are absolutely absurd. I'm assuming most people on here selling are 3 or 4 tiers below the actual producers or distributors?

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    Dread Pirate Roberts 3/27/2013 23:38: In my eyes, FriendlyChemist is a liability and I wouldn't mind if he was executed, but then you'd be out your $700k. I don't think he is going to come up with the money because he seems very desperate. I'm not sure how much you already know about the guy, but I have the following info and am waiting on getting his address:

    Blake Krokoff
    Lives in an apartment near White Rock Beach
    Age: 34
    City: White Rock
    Province: British Columbia
    Wife + 3 kids
    Let me know if it would be helpful to have his full address.
    In those categories, I think you could be doing over $1M in sales a week within a few months. It is hard to estimate because it depends on how much market share you get and also the site as a whole is constantly growing. You will need to become very proficient at stealth shipping and packaging if you aren't already. Think vacuum sealers and leaving no forensic evidence on your packages. You will also want to ship from multiple drop points so you can't be traced back via your (fake) return address.
    [Long description of Silk Road's commission scheme and shipping security tips.]
    Regarding the safety and anonymity, we've been operating for over 2 years now in the open as a high profile target and are still going strong. If you take the necessary precautions, and use the technology, I think you can operate very securely and efficiently here, maybe more so than some of your current operations.

    Redandwhite 3/28/2013 9:01: I already have that information but thank you. 1M a week sounds like it would be worth selling on here, once we know exactly how everything works. Even if commission was 15% it would not matter, as we lose more than 15% doing it on the streets with street level guys getting robbed or arrest and losing product etc.
    Also, we have kidnapped friendlychemists partner Xin already and are on the hunt for friendlychemist. I will keep you updated on the developments. So far though we are liking what we see with this site and this could be a good partnership for both of us. As far as I can see, this site lacks any big time suppliers. It appears it is mostly it is street level independents that are buying small amounts (1oz - 1 kilo at a time) and selling on here.
    We have the product and the man power to do big things here. Forgive me, but it all seems a little too good to be true right now so I will need some time to really research this before I make any sort of commitment.

    Dread Pirate Roberts 3/28/2013 16:59: I understand, and that is great news about Xin. If I understand the situation, he is the one responsible for your loss.
    You should definitely take your time and start slowly. I would hate for you to make a mistake and be left with a bad experience. Just let me know if you need anything. Also, you should look into PGP. Many customers like to encrypt their receiving address so you should know how to decrypt it.
    When you are ready, let me know what account you want to sell with and I'll cover the $500 security deposit for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Doesn't want to shoot entire load at one time. I bet he says that before election.
    Don't bet anything you can't afford to be without.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Doesn't want to shoot entire load at one time. I bet he says that before election.
    Sure. It's not like he didn't have 4 years the first time. But that said I'm not sure if this "Dread Pirate Roberts" guy deserves to be set free! The evidence is pretty clear of him being an accessory to kidnapping and possibly soliciting murder. The ain't the Proud Boys scheming to do a sit in at some random buildings at the capital.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Sure. It's not like he didn't have 4 years the first time. But that said I'm not sure if this "Dread Pirate Roberts" guy deserves to be set free! The evidence is pretty clear of him being an accessory to kidnapping and possibly soliciting murder. The ain't the Proud Boys scheming to do a sit in at some random buildings at the capital.
    He's already served 11 years, and from what I understand it was intel agencies who hacked his data, he ordered a hit on a fed who was extorting him by threatening to release all of his customer info/data. It's the trolley problem - you want thousands of your customers lives in peril, or the guy who is extorting you for money who wants their names released?

    Even if it wasn't a fed, do you think anybody would sleep worse at night after having an extortionist like that murdered?

    Also Don Jr. is 100% on board with Assange/Snowden being pardoned, I believe Trump Sr. is as well.

    Biden is 100% not on board.

    Take your pick.
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Yeah, Trump says lots of things...
    To give him the benefit of the doubt, Trump can make money from Bitcoin, therefore he has incentive to protect it. Heís probably already invested.



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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Also Don Jr. is 100% on board with Assange/Snowden being pardoned, I believe Trump Sr. is as well.

    Biden is 100% not on board.

    Take your pick.
    I pick the guy who has the balls to say it himself, and doesn't have one of his kids say $#@! in hopes that people desperate for a pocketful of hope will take that as a promise.

    https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/...843-2023-05-03

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I pick the guy who has the balls to say it himself, and doesn't have one of his kids say $#@! in hopes that people desperate for a pocketful of hope will take that as a promise.

    https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/...843-2023-05-03
    The wishy washy guy who says he believes in free speech but once advocated for imprisoning people who spread climate disinformation?

    They both have their pro's and cons.. I would be happy to have either in the Oval Office. I think Trump has more pro's, less cons.

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    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
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    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The wishy washy guy who says he believes in free speech but once advocated for imprisoning people who spread climate disinformation?

    They both have their pro's and cons.. I would be happy to have either in the Oval Office. I think Trump has more pro's, less cons.

    Trump stated in his speech to the LP that he wants to make sure that Bitcoin isnít driven overseas, but rather ďMade in AmericaĒ. Do you understand that he is a clueless, authoritarian opportunist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The wishy washy guy who says he believes in free speech but once advocated for imprisoning people who spread climate disinformation?
    People? For what? You mean that time he said he wanted to imprison someone who was guilty of knowingly poisoning people downstream and lying about it? Because, like, that actually happened. Anyone who thinks that one clip which was circulated out of context by propagandists like Pool (reverse propagandists? it's still propaganda) was about anything else but that is parroting both disinformation and malinformation.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 05-26-2024 at 05:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Trump stated in his speech to the LP that he wants to make sure that Bitcoin isn’t driven overseas, but rather “Made in America. Do you understand that he is a clueless, authoritarian opportunist?

    I just sit here SMGDH
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Trump stated in his speech to the LP that he wants to make sure that Bitcoin isnít driven overseas, but rather ďMade in AmericaĒ. Do you understand that he is a clueless, authoritarian opportunist?
    Sounds like an excuse to make a national CBDC to me. What do you say about someone who says he won't do something, then lays the groundwork for it with his very next breath?

    I guess the same thing we said about his diametrically contradictory promises of 2016, which nobody listened to...

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    He's already served 11 years, and from what I understand it was intel agencies who hacked his data, he ordered a hit on a fed who was extorting him by threatening to release all of his customer info/data. It's the trolley problem - you want thousands of your customers lives in peril, or the guy who is extorting you for money who wants their names released?
    In this case the "customers" are criminals so the "trolley" scenario does not compute. And again I'm comparing this to actual heroes like Julian Assange and Edward Snowden.

    Even if it wasn't a fed, do you think anybody would sleep worse at night after having an extortionist like that murdered?

    Also Don Jr. is 100% on board with Assange/Snowden being pardoned, I believe Trump Sr. is as well.

    Biden is 100% not on board.

    Take your pick.
    Actually Biden has offered a possible to deal Assange.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    In this case the "customers" are criminals so the "trolley" scenario does not compute. And again I'm comparing this to actual heroes like Julian Assange and Edward Snowden.
    What? The people selling drugs are "criminals"? The guy stealing his private data and then extorting him is not? Isn't this a libertarian site?


    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Actually Biden has offered a possible to deal Assange.
    Lol.. ok buddy..
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    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    More importantly, why no promise for Julian Assange or Edward Snowden? Neither of them were ever accused of ordering a hit on anyone.
    5 different if I recall. Personally at current time Id appreciate it if trump would quit trying to lose . e can quiet down about bitcoin( avg american knows zero about ), releasing some guy nobody knows , giving nikki a job etc, not too sure about researc going into stuff.
    Last edited by oyarde; 05-27-2024 at 12:02 PM.
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  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Oh boy, support for companies!
    Can you give me the phone# for the CEO of Bitcoin, been trying to get ahold of that guy for a while now...
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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    People? For what? You mean that time he said he wanted to imprison someone who was guilty of knowingly poisoning people downstream and lying about it? Because, like, that actually happened. Anyone who thinks that one clip which was circulated out of context by propagandists like Pool (reverse propagandists? it's still propaganda) was about anything else but that is parroting both disinformation and malinformation.
    That's false.
    At best he said both.
    You are the one removing the context you don't like.
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  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Sounds like an excuse to make a national CBDC to me. What do you say about someone who says he won't do something, then lays the groundwork for it with his very next breath?

    I guess the same thing we said about his diametrically contradictory promises of 2016, which nobody listened to...
    He specifically opposes a CBDC.
    What he means is that he wants the mining industry here and not in China or somewhere else a hostile country could try to take control of it.
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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    People? For what? You mean that time he said he wanted to imprison someone who was guilty of knowingly poisoning people downstream and lying about it? Because, like, that actually happened. Anyone who thinks that one clip which was circulated out of context by propagandists like Pool (reverse propagandists? it's still propaganda) was about anything else but that is parroting both disinformation and malinformation.
    Here's the full in context quote:





    Reporter: "What about Politicians, people who deny, who express skepticism?"
    RFK: "I think they're selling out the public trust, and you know I think those guys who are doing the Koch brothers' bidding, who are against all the evidence of the rational mind, are saying the global warming doesn't exist, that they are contemptible human beings and that you know I wish there were a law you could punish them under, I don't think there's a law you can punish those politicians under, but do I think the Koch brothers should be prosecuted for reckless endangerment? absolutely, that's a criminal offense and they ought to be serving time for it."

    So, CO2 is pollution, Global Warming is real and you should "trust the science" and he wants a law to imprison you if you don't.
    Until he gets the laws he wants he is going to prosecute you for "reckless endangerment" for producing CO2.


    He starts with debateable "crimes" like oil spills and pollution, then moves to claiming CO2 is pollution, and then moves to saying people should be jailed for speech and laws should be changed so politicians can be jailed for their positions.
    The camel's nose in the tent approach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So no pardon for Julian Assange, Edward Snowden or Thomas Drake (no relation to me), but commute the sentence of someone dumb enough to have a chat log talking about how he didn't mind if a certain party got executed and applauding his associate being kidnapped?
    Hearsay and false allegations. Ulbricht was never charged, let alone convicted, of any violent crime. All of his "crimes" were paper-crimes and, while I oppose white-collar crime as much as any other crime, these were all paper "crimes" against the State's arbitrary and unlawful regulations, including unlawful tax and other financial regulations. In short, Ulbricht was flaunting onerous and unjust regulations and he was punished and made an example for that reason. In short, Ulbricht was made an example of what happens to people who flaunt the State's arbitrary, tyrannical, unjust and unlawful dictates. His punishment is an important lynchpin of the current tyranny. We are a country of free men, but who among us is ready to do a life sentence just to prove the point??

    How you can cite the FBI with a straight-face is beyond me. This is the same FBI who has multiple times planted live explosives, lured the mentally-ill into a "terror plot" they themselves manufactured and is almost certainly the agency who planted the January 6th pipe-bombs. This is not a credible source for determining if the sky is blue, and you're citing hearsay from them as evidence against Ulbricht? Don't be ridiculous.
    Last edited by ClaytonB; 05-26-2024 at 09:18 PM.
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