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    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 06-09-2024 at 07:03 PM. Reason: added "RELATED" links
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/ComicDaveSmith/s...65468376514698

    Do you think they'll ask him about all of the positions that he had, promoted and profited immensely by, before he paid money to have them completely wiped? And the fact that he tried to sell his surveillance products to the federal government on the tax payer dime [public/private venture] when Trump was in office during COVID?
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    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 06-09-2024 at 08:45 PM.
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    Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)

    • "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
      -- The Law (p. 54)
    • "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
      -- Government (p. 99)
    • "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
      -- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)
    • "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
      -- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)

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    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    https://twitter.com/LPNational/statu...77940706939131
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    https://twitter.com/MLiamMcCollum/st...92104862908517
    {Liam McCollum @MLiamMcCollum | 16 May 2024}

    Tucker Carlson asks Dave Smith [see this thread - OB] about the @LPMisesCaucus takeover [see this thread - OB] and the decision to invite Donald Trump to the @LPNational Convention [see this thread - OB].

    @angela4LNCChair's decision to invite Trump, RFK, and Vivek to the convention is the wisest political move the party has ever made. It is an acknowledgment of political and cultural realities:

    The reality is that a Libertarian will not be elected as president in November. So, the options were to 1) remain an irrelevant echo chamber or 2) invite the major candidates to our convention to hear our grievances.

    And the critics of this decision in the party simply do not have a finger on the pulse regarding where the culture is and where it is headed.

    It is impossible to measure, but the reason that Republicans like Trump have been campaigning to get rid of the deep state and warmongers ("I will obliterate the deep state, drain the swamp, and starve the warmongers”) is that Libertarians have had an immeasurable influence on the culture.

    Ron Paul trends on major platforms regularly; Joe Rogan (the most watched podcast host) interviewed Dave Smith very early in the Ukraine war when it was very unpopular to oppose US intervention; Libertarians like Dave Smith and Clint Russell interviewed Vivek Ramaswamy, who calls himself a libertarian nationalist and ruined Nikki Haley’s electoral chances; Tucker Carlson, who made the Ukraine war the #1 issue in the first GOP primary debate, is now friends with Dave Smith; Javier Milei won on libertarian populism [see this thread - OB]; UFC fighters are talking about the Federal Reserve and Mises [see this thread - OB].

    The reason Trump, RFK, and Vivek feel it is necessary to come to our convention is because they know that libertarian ideas grow stronger as New Media defeats the old, and they will have to contend with us.

    Now, you may not trust Donald Trump when he says he wants to tear down the deep state, and for good reasons, and you may not believe Tucker Carlson is actually accepting libertarian ideas, but what is so significant about this media moment we’re in is that thousands of their followers are now hearing our ideas for the first time and have all the resources at their fingertips. @mises has plenty of free audiobooks and PDFs available on their website, and @moicanoufc’s recent post-fight interview caused thousands of his fans to download a Mises book [see this post - OB].

    If you can't see the value in this strategy, then you do not want our ideas to succeed, or you want them to succeed on your own, naive terms.

    Since we have no electoral chances right now, we need to find other metrics for success. Libertarian populism is on the rise, and we should embrace it.
    https://twitter.com/MLiamMcCollum/st...92104862908517
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 06-08-2024 at 05:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://twitter.com/MLiamMcCollum/st...92104862908517
    {Liam McCollum @MLiamMcCollum | 16 May 2024}

    Tucker Carlson asks Dave Smith [see this thread - OB] about the @LPMisesCaucus takeover [see this thread - OB] and the decision to invite Donald Trump to the @LPNational Convention.

    @angela4LNCChair's decision to invite Trump, RFK, and Vivek to the convention is the wisest political move the party has ever made. It is an acknowledgment of political and cultural realities:

    [...]
    Trump, RFK Jr., Vivek, and Afroman Walk Into A Libertarian Convention w/ Angela McArdle
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiLa2cRxuMw
    {Liam McCollum | 12 May 2024}

    Libertarian Party Chair Angela McArdle joins Liam McCollum to talk about the 2024 Libertarian National Convention and the controversial attendance of Trump, RFK Jr., Vivek, and Afroman.

    Sign up for the convention: https://lnc2024.com/
    Angela's Website: https://angelamcardle.com/
    Support Angela: https://www.patreon.com/join/angelamcardle
    Follow Angela on X: https://twitter.com/angela4LNCChair
    Follow Liam McCollum on X: https://twitter.com/MLiamMcCollum



    Twitter version:

    https://twitter.com/MLiamMcCollum/st...75586169274624

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/LPNational/statu...77940706939131
    THREAD: Thomas Massie to attend LP 2024 national convention
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 06-09-2024 at 06:22 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Trump, RFK Jr., Vivek, and Afroman Walk Into A Libertarian Convention w/ Angela McArdle
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiLa2cRxuMw
    {Liam McCollum | 12 May 2024}

    Libertarian Party Chair Angela McArdle joins Liam McCollum to talk about the 2024 Libertarian National Convention and the controversial attendance of Trump, RFK Jr., Vivek, and Afroman.

    [...]

    THREAD: Rap artist Afroman sued by officers who raided his home

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    ...
    Libertarian Party Chair Angela McArdle joins Liam McCollum to talk about the 2024 Libertarian National Convention and the controversial attendance of Trump, RFK Jr., Vivek, and Afroman.

    Sign up for the convention: https://lnc2024.com/
    ...
    I was going to sign up for the convention...but then I got high.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Confirmed:
    - Joseph Foreman (aka Afroman)
    - Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
    - Thomas Massie
    - Vivek Ramaswamy
    - Donald Trump

    Possible (maybe ?):
    - Javier Milei
    - Elon Musk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I was going to sign up for the convention...but then I got high.


    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Brian4Liberty again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://twitter.com/BehizyTweets/sta...96822709420426

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    Confirmed:
    - Joseph Foreman (aka Afroman)
    - Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
    - Thomas Massie
    - Ron Paul
    - Vivek Ramaswamy
    - Donald Trump

    Possible (maybe ?):
    - Javier Milei
    - Elon Musk

    https://x.com/LPNational/status/1793000472288305528


    https://x.com/BobMurphyEcon/status/1793020935622013011
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 06-09-2024 at 06:27 PM.

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    RFK Jr.'s address at the LP convention:

    https://x.com/beinlibertarian/status...03807934079312

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    RFK Jr Joins LIVE At The Libertarian National Convention Talking Trump, Biden, 2024 | Timcast IRL
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCcoBOfNlcM
    {Timcast IRL | 24 May 2024}


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    Vivek Remarks & Debate at Libertarian Party Convention


    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.



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    WATCH LIVE: RFK Jr. addresses Libertarian National Convention




    Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is addressing the Libertarian National Convention in Washington, DC, Friday afternoon.

    Although Kennedy indicated last month he would not seek the Libertarian Party’s nomination, he has long promoted libertarian policies and values.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Vivek Remarks & Debate at Libertarian Party Convention Full Speech



    Vivek Remarks & Debate with Dave Smith and Clint Russell at Libertarian Party Convention Full Speech | 5/24/2024
    Note: Dave Smith and Clint Russell join Vivek around the 16:00 mark.
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 05-25-2024 at 10:16 AM.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Vivek Remarks & Debate at Libertarian Party Convention Full Speech





    Note: Dave Smith and Clint Russell join Vivek around the 16:00 mark.
    CSPAN Version:

    Vivek Ramaswamy Debates Libertarian Party Vice Presidential Nominee

    2024 Libertarian vice- presidential candidate Clint Russell was selected to debate former GOP presidential candidate and Trump campaign surrogate Vivek Ramaswamy. The two exchanged ideas on topics ranging from foreign aid, banning Tik-Tok, and former President Donald Trump. Prior to the debate, Mr. Ramaswamy spoke to the audience on his time as a candidate and his point of view on the American political system.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?535693...ential-nominee
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    What a Charlie Foxtrot
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    FULL SPEECH: President Trump Addresses Libertarian National Convention in D.C. - 5/25/24

    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 06-09-2024 at 06:28 PM. Reason: added "THREAD" link
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Is anyone else watching this mess as they attempt to select a POTUS candidate?

    As per usual, the party is divided right down the middle between the left and right. It is possible at this point that NOTA (none of the above) will win.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 06-09-2024 at 07:16 PM. Reason: added "THREAD" link
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.



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    Libertarian Party National Convention 2024 Day One
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifFJVDRvGvY
    {Libertarian Party | 24 May 2024}



    Libertarian Party National Convention 2024 Day 2
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz1hirz-guU
    {Libertarian Party | 25 May 2024}



    Libertarian Party National Convention 2024 Day 3
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kmZVRWpr20
    {Libertarian Party | 26 May 2024}


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    Back to the actual thread topic, the LP is not a serious party...


    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1794829552465916052

    Anybody interested in Open Mike or Starchild?
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 05-27-2024 at 10:58 PM.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Back to the actual thread topic, the LP is not a serious party...

    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1794829552465916052

    Anybody interested in Open Mike or Starchild?

    I agree, it is not a serious party. It should be known that one cannot legislate morality. Any attempts to do so would require a flawless candidate, so to speak, and while short of that, the most important aspect of actually slashing spending, reducing the size of government and eliminating agencies are brushed aside or go unheard. While NO pass is given to the LP [maybe for good and valid reason(s), standing firm on principle], numerous horrendous passes are freely given to the R's and D's. Perhaps that is what sets small l libertarians from the others, and for good reason, because the actual libertarian philosophy is that top-down government is a no-no in the first place; we should be working as close to home as possible to realize the change that we seek. POTUS, and other high office which rule or influence from above is not conducive to small-cell communities.
    ____________

    An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)

    The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)

  32. #28
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  33. #29
    The Sad State of the Libertarian Presidential Debate - Live Stream Commentary
    https://odysee.com/@Anarchast:2/TheL...amCommentary:6
    {TheAnarchast | 28 May 2024}

    We watched the entire National Convention Presidential debate and were predictably disappointed with the pahtay's ability to produce candidates remotely familiar with Libertarian principles. Live through the pain with us in this video.


  34. #30
    Libertarian National Convention 2024 | Part Of The Problem 1126
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMTKzJQVL4s
    {Dave Smith | 30 May 2024}

    On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave and Robbie recap the events from the Libertarian National Convention this past weekend, Discussing the speeches from the event and future of the Libertarian party.


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