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Thread: In first GOP campaign stop since Reagan in 1980, Trump draws 20,000+ in the Bronx

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    Hmmm.....

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    Doubt Trump will be any different..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Hmmm.....
    I wonder...would Reagan have drawn 20,000 people to an outside rally, in the Bronx, in 1980?

    I'm old enough and grew up in the tri-state area, to know just how bad the Bronx and Newark and Asbury Park and Atlantic City and East Orange and Bed-Sty was.

    I don't think so.
    The whole narrative is absurd on its face - at the same time the USA was both founded on White supremacy, slavery, and genocide, yet always meant to be a place that infinity Africans, Indians, and South Americans could come for a "better life"? - Unknown

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Doubt Trump will be any different..
    Probably not.

    We never will know.

    Reagan started out like Javier Milie, then he got shot, and everything changed.
    The whole narrative is absurd on its face - at the same time the USA was both founded on White supremacy, slavery, and genocide, yet always meant to be a place that infinity Africans, Indians, and South Americans could come for a "better life"? - Unknown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Probably not.

    We never will know.

    Reagan started out like Javier Milie, then he got shot, and everything changed.
    You mean that same Reagan that stated "These fighters in the white house are our modern day freedom fighters "Afghan Jihadist Fighters"

    If there was any mistake that the Republicans did to counter the Russians that was it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    You mean that same Reagan that stated "These fighters in the white house are our modern day freedom fighters "Afghan Jihadist Fighters"

    If there was any mistake that the Republicans did to counter the Russians that was it.
    Yes it was...fatal mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I wonder...would Reagan have drawn 20,000 people to an outside rally, in the Bronx, in 1980?

    I'm old enough and grew up in the tri-state area, to know just how bad the Bronx and Newark and Asbury Park and Atlantic City and East Orange and Bed-Sty was.

    I don't think so.
    Probably not. It's possible that now that the delirium over George Floyd has worn off and there's been 4 years of Biden, there are large numbers of black and brown people willing to listen to Trump. His record on black issues really isn't bad. Permanent funding for land grant HBCUs and the most significant criminal justice reform of a generation. And there may be trouble brewing for democrats over immigration.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Yet Biden is going to win NY in a landslide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    And the cops say 8,000 to 10,000.

    Former President Donald Trump’s Bronx rally drew about 8,000 to 10,000 attendees, law enforcement sources told The Post on Friday.

    Believe what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I can't. I want to believe there were 8-10K, but there's no way I can ever believe the NYPD.

    And it's all your fault. Why did you tell me they said that? Now look where I'm stuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It was said this pic was taken at 11 am and Trump didn't speak until ~ 6pm

    Like Trump or not, it was a brilliant move to go to the Bronx after what Hochul said about black children in the Bronx not knowing what a computer is.
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    You would ponder dems would ave problems due to inflationay bills , 3rd world inflation , anti energy policies driving up prices , immigration , out of touc w/ ordinary median income type people but Ill need to see it to believe it. In past dem bolseviks proven to be party loyal to be envied by any dictator world wide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I can't. I want to believe there were 8-10K, but there's no way I can ever believe the NYPD.

    And it's all your fault. Why did you tell me they said that? Now look where I'm stuck.
    These are trying times, aren't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tebowlives View Post
    It was said this pic was taken at 11 am and Trump didn't speak until ~ 6pm
    "It was said" is definitely a phrase.


    Here's some live video. The thumbnail and video of the crowd is hilariously zoomed in and cropped down to hide all the empty grass, but it's exactly the same size as what I linked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Now you're a fan of unnamed law enforcement sources? When did that start?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Without knowing anything about the crowd size I can say with certainty that it was bigger than a crowd Biden could muster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Now you're a fan of unnamed law enforcement sources? When did that start?
    Not a fan, just what was reported.

    Neither one of us were there.

    Believe what you want.

    Even it was just 800, that's still pretty amazing, all things considered.

    YMMV
    The whole narrative is absurd on its face - at the same time the USA was both founded on White supremacy, slavery, and genocide, yet always meant to be a place that infinity Africans, Indians, and South Americans could come for a "better life"? - Unknown

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    Looks like a respectable size crowd to me.
    Skip to 3:40 and look at the crowd.
    Probably close to a million.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    "It was said" is definitely a phrase.


    Here's some live video. The thumbnail and video of the crowd is hilariously zoomed in and cropped down to hide all the empty grass, but it's exactly the same size as what I linked.
    It didn't show anything. A complete overhead would tell the story
    Law enforcement at the scene estimated between 8k-10k. Trump campaign said 25k lol
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