Results 1 to 17 of 17

Thread: SC joins over 20 other states and bans transqueeer treatments for minors-LA and NH to follow

  1. #1

    SC joins over 20 other states and bans transqueeer treatments for minors-LA and NH to follow

    South Carolina Gov. Signs ‘Help Not Harm’ Law Protecting Children from Transgender Procedures

    https://www.breitbart.com/health/202...ansgender-law/

    NEIL MUNRO 21 May 2024

    South Carolina’s Republican governor has signed a “Help Not Harm” law that shields children and teenagers from risky transgender medical procedures.

    The law signed by Gov. Henry McMaster marks the expanding and popular movement to protect kids from hormones, drugs, surgeries, and other irreversible treatments that supposedly “affirm” teenagers’ internal and unmeasurable sense of “gender.”

    The law also ensures that parents must be told by teachers if their K-12 children are experimenting with transgender themes, such as opposite-sex pronouns. The law goes into effect immediately.

    The bill only protects children. “If they want to make those decisions later when they’re adults, then that’s a different story, but we must protect our young people from irreversible [medical] decisions,” McMaster said.

    Republican governors in two other states — Louisiana and New Hampshire — also are expected to sign bills that protect minors from the Democrats’ transgender agenda.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan



  2. Remove this section of ads by registering.
  3. #2
    @jmdrake

    In your experience, is this now a majority, or even a growing, opinion in the black community or black churches?

    I hope that it is, because the last thing that strong black men and fathers should be taking cultural clues from is weak, white, queeers and Marxists.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1793022968500519210

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  4. #3
    ____________

    An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)

    The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)

  5. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    @jmdrake

    In your experience, is this now a majority, or even a growing, opinion in the black community or black churches?

    I hope that it is, because the last thing that strong black men and fathers should be taking cultural clues from is weak, white, queeers and Marxists.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1793022968500519210

    Short answer is that I don't think many black people in general ever supported sexualization of children, but it's taking a while for black Christians to wake up to what's going on because of their undying love for Obama and/or dislike of Trump and Republicans

    Here's the long answer:

    I'll try to find the statistic, but prior to Obama being president a solid majority of African Americans were against gay marriage, more so than whites, and that flipped after Obama changed his views on gay marriage. It's really a mixed bag. In 2007 Obama was criticized by gays for having gospel singer and minister Donnie McClurkin associated with his campaign. Donnie is known for his ministry to gay people who wish to leave that lifestyle. That's something Donnie himself had to struggle with because he was molested as a child. I can't find the video, but I remember seeing Donnie explain to gospel artist Yolanda Adams that he agreed with Obama changing gay marriage as a "civil rights issue" but he (Donnie) maintained his same position that it wasn't right in the eyes of God. And how did Obama award him for this? Well....Donnie was dis-invited from singing at the 50th anniversary of the MLK March On Washington.



    At that same event Baynard Rustin, an openly gay lieutenant of MLK who's largely credited with Dr. King adopting a 100% non violent stance in the Civil Rights Movement (before Rustin, Dr. King had armed deacons for security guards and one could argue that Rustin got king killed), was honored for his role in the Civil Rights Movement.

    TBH I hadn't heard of Rustin until I saw him profiled on PBS back in the 1990s. He did famously debate Malcolm X.

    Now, you specifically asked me about the trend of sexualizing kids. I would say most black people aren't fully aware of what's going on. I mentioned this in another response to you in a different thread. Here's a recap:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post7230648

    True story. So when I first met my now ex-wife and her family back in 1998, I thought they were really homophobic. Like they would talk about the "gay agenda" and how Disney secretly pushing gay and sexual messages in their movies and all of that. I was pretty liberal then. I supported ending the ban on sodomy laws because I don't want to know what other people are doing in their bedroom. (Seems like these days certain people want everybody to know what they are doing in their bedroom.) I was okay with ending the ban on gays in the military because I had no intention of joining the military. When it came to gay marriage, I was okay with that until I went to law school and had to read the IRS vs Bob Jones University case. That's the case where BJU lost it's tax except status for having a ban on interracial dating. The holding was since SCOTUS had struck down separate but equal, congress had passed the CRA and President Truman had desegregated the military, all 3 branches of government had decided segregation was against public policy. (After they lost they just banned all dating on campus period). That case greatly concerned me because the SDA church operates a lot of colleges and universities and they all follow the traditional view on sexuality and marriage. About that time Obama had repealed don't ask don't tell. (Branch 1) Sometime later SCOTUS struck down DOMA. (Branch 2). And there was language barring discrimination against transgenders in medicine in Obamacare. (Branch 3). Back to my former in-laws. Four years ago when we were all together for my sons graduating college I overheard them talking to each other about how "terrible" it is that Trump was trying to take away transgender rights to healthcare. This was the first I heard of that and I wasn't sure what that meant. But I bet they thought it was about whether or not a transgender having a heart attack would be turned away form the hospital. I didn't argue with them, but I was thinking "I bet there's more to it than that." Sure enough, within a year I heard of a case of a "transman" suing a Catholic hospital for not doing a hysterectomy because the hospital said it didn't want to be involved in any gender affirming surgeries. I've never asked my ex or her family what they thought about that. At that same graduation event a pastor who is married to one of my exes sisters wanted to talk to me about politics because I guess he wanted to "set me straight" about being a "republican" and a "Trump supporter." I am neither but I get accused of that all of the time because in some circles if you aren't lining up to kiss the donkey's ass and/or if you don't totally despise Trump (and despite what some here think, I don't hate the man), then you must be a Trump supporter. Finally I asked the pastor "You have a daycare with your church right? How would you feel if the feds told you that you have to hire an openly gay teacher?" Boom! i had him! He hadn't thought about that. (Actually religious schools are allowed to discriminate in hiring of teachers because they are the same as hiring clergy and that falls under the same "ecclesiastical exception" that excempts churches form the CRA when dealing with clergy.) Anyhow, I have transgender relatives. If any of the were having a heart attack I'd want them to be able to go to any hospital and have treatment. But that is not what Obama was pushing or is being pushed now.

    /long rant

    I HONESTLY think that my ex-wife and in-laws were looking at Trump trying to undermine "trans healthcare" in the Affordable Care Act as being about transgenders getting heart transplants or cancer treatment. I don't think they were even thinking about gender affirming care for adults, let alone children. I post a lot of comments on Newsbreak.com stories on the issue and the negative responses I get are 1) puberty blockers are just a "pause" and cause no other harm (not true as puberty blockers cause osteoporosis and may cause cancer) 2) not children are surgically altered (not true as trans influencer Jazz Jennings' penis was cut off at 16) and 3) parents and doctors should be able to make that decision (odd because many of these same people freaked out at those who didn't want to take experimental vaccines). I think most people aren't educated on the issue. But even with that 70% of Americans are against trans care for children . That's a super majority. That same poll shows 75% of Americans are against teaching about gender identity in grades K-5 although a majority support teaching about it at the high school level.

    When I bring up among most black religious people I know that Biden is trying to force Christian hospitals to provide gender affirming treatment to minors, most are either appalled or at the very least silenced. It's almost every other week were I hear at least somebody in the black religious community say that "If Trump gets back in office it's the end of our freedom" or "I can't understand how any Christian could support Trump" and I bring this issue up to suggest that Biden is 1) a tyrant (after all he's trying to force this on Christian hospitals) and 2) not a real Christian. I usually end with "Don't support either candidate or either party but put your trust in Jesus" and no real Christian can argue with that.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  6. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Short answer is that I don't think many black people in general ever supported sexualization of children, but it's taking a while for black Christians to wake up to what's going on because of their undying love for Obama and/or dislike of Trump and Republicans

    Here's the long answer:

    I'll try to find the statistic, but prior to Obama being president a solid majority of African Americans were against gay marriage, more so than whites, and that flipped after Obama changed his views on gay marriage. It's really a mixed bag. In 2007 Obama was criticized by gays for having gospel singer and minister Donnie McClurkin associated with his campaign. Donnie is known for his ministry to gay people who wish to leave that lifestyle. That's something Donnie himself had to struggle with because he was molested as a child. I can't find the video, but I remember seeing Donnie explain to gospel artist Yolanda Adams that he agreed with Obama changing gay marriage as a "civil rights issue" but he (Donnie) maintained his same position that it wasn't right in the eyes of God. And how did Obama award him for this? Well....Donnie was dis-invited from singing at the 50th anniversary of the MLK March On Washington.



    At that same event Baynard Rustin, an openly gay lieutenant of MLK who's largely credited with Dr. King adopting a 100% non violent stance in the Civil Rights Movement (before Rustin, Dr. King had armed deacons for security guards and one could argue that Rustin got king killed), was honored for his role in the Civil Rights Movement.

    TBH I hadn't heard of Rustin until I saw him profiled on PBS back in the 1990s. He did famously debate Malcolm X.

    Now, you specifically asked me about the trend of sexualizing kids. I would say most black people aren't fully aware of what's going on. I mentioned this in another response to you in a different thread. Here's a recap:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post7230648

    True story. So when I first met my now ex-wife and her family back in 1998, I thought they were really homophobic. Like they would talk about the "gay agenda" and how Disney secretly pushing gay and sexual messages in their movies and all of that. I was pretty liberal then. I supported ending the ban on sodomy laws because I don't want to know what other people are doing in their bedroom. (Seems like these days certain people want everybody to know what they are doing in their bedroom.) I was okay with ending the ban on gays in the military because I had no intention of joining the military. When it came to gay marriage, I was okay with that until I went to law school and had to read the IRS vs Bob Jones University case. That's the case where BJU lost it's tax except status for having a ban on interracial dating. The holding was since SCOTUS had struck down separate but equal, congress had passed the CRA and President Truman had desegregated the military, all 3 branches of government had decided segregation was against public policy. (After they lost they just banned all dating on campus period). That case greatly concerned me because the SDA church operates a lot of colleges and universities and they all follow the traditional view on sexuality and marriage. About that time Obama had repealed don't ask don't tell. (Branch 1) Sometime later SCOTUS struck down DOMA. (Branch 2). And there was language barring discrimination against transgenders in medicine in Obamacare. (Branch 3). Back to my former in-laws. Four years ago when we were all together for my sons graduating college I overheard them talking to each other about how "terrible" it is that Trump was trying to take away transgender rights to healthcare. This was the first I heard of that and I wasn't sure what that meant. But I bet they thought it was about whether or not a transgender having a heart attack would be turned away form the hospital. I didn't argue with them, but I was thinking "I bet there's more to it than that." Sure enough, within a year I heard of a case of a "transman" suing a Catholic hospital for not doing a hysterectomy because the hospital said it didn't want to be involved in any gender affirming surgeries. I've never asked my ex or her family what they thought about that. At that same graduation event a pastor who is married to one of my exes sisters wanted to talk to me about politics because I guess he wanted to "set me straight" about being a "republican" and a "Trump supporter." I am neither but I get accused of that all of the time because in some circles if you aren't lining up to kiss the donkey's ass and/or if you don't totally despise Trump (and despite what some here think, I don't hate the man), then you must be a Trump supporter. Finally I asked the pastor "You have a daycare with your church right? How would you feel if the feds told you that you have to hire an openly gay teacher?" Boom! i had him! He hadn't thought about that. (Actually religious schools are allowed to discriminate in hiring of teachers because they are the same as hiring clergy and that falls under the same "ecclesiastical exception" that excempts churches form the CRA when dealing with clergy.) Anyhow, I have transgender relatives. If any of the were having a heart attack I'd want them to be able to go to any hospital and have treatment. But that is not what Obama was pushing or is being pushed now.

    /long rant

    I HONESTLY think that my ex-wife and in-laws were looking at Trump trying to undermine "trans healthcare" in the Affordable Care Act as being about transgenders getting heart transplants or cancer treatment. I don't think they were even thinking about gender affirming care for adults, let alone children. I post a lot of comments on Newsbreak.com stories on the issue and the negative responses I get are 1) puberty blockers are just a "pause" and cause no other harm (not true as puberty blockers cause osteoporosis and may cause cancer) 2) not children are surgically altered (not true as trans influencer Jazz Jennings' penis was cut off at 16) and 3) parents and doctors should be able to make that decision (odd because many of these same people freaked out at those who didn't want to take experimental vaccines). I think most people aren't educated on the issue. But even with that 70% of Americans are against trans care for children . That's a super majority. That same poll shows 75% of Americans are against teaching about gender identity in grades K-5 although a majority support teaching about it at the high school level.

    When I bring up among most black religious people I know that Biden is trying to force Christian hospitals to provide gender affirming treatment to minors, most are either appalled or at the very least silenced. It's almost every other week were I hear at least somebody in the black religious community say that "If Trump gets back in office it's the end of our freedom" or "I can't understand how any Christian could support Trump" and I bring this issue up to suggest that Biden is 1) a tyrant (after all he's trying to force this on Christian hospitals) and 2) not a real Christian. I usually end with "Don't support either candidate or either party but put your trust in Jesus" and no real Christian can argue with that.
    I appreciate the in depth reply, thanks, and no, I didn't ignore your previous response, it was because of that that I asked specifically, which way the black church and the community were seeing this.

    3) parents and doctors should be able to make that decision (odd because many of these same people freaked out at those who didn't want to take experimental vaccines)
    Experimental "vaccines" that have now proved to be both ineffective and unsafe.

    "Freaked out"...interesting choice of words.

    They wanted to put us in prison camps.

    Thanks again for the detailed response.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  7. #6
    Most backs on avg run about three decades behind the rest of America in criticizing anything the marxist party they belong to and supported does. There really is no logical explanation for it that Ive seen. The love for obama-biden-harris regimes is sickening but it predates that by a mile. Most people I dont fault for limited and uneducated views ( that represents america in general)but I do fault the black clergy who do not openly oppose the dem platform. They are the worst because they know better. They are not ignorant and know evil when seen.
    Do something Danke

  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I appreciate the in depth reply, thanks, and no, I didn't ignore your previous response, it was because of that that I asked specifically, which way the black church and the community were seeing this.
    You're welcome. There is a battle for the heart and soul of the black church and a lot of black Christians, including leaders, aren't really aware of what's going on. As I think you're aware, I am Seventh Day Adventist. Back when Dr. Ben Carson was running for president there was a Huffington Post article were a gay SDA was asked about his (Dr. Carson's) and the church's view on gay marriage. He (the gay man) responded that he didn't want gay issues to overshadow the fight for the ordination of women pastors. (The church hires women pastors but they aren't ordained but "credentialed" and don't ask me to explain why that is because I don't know). The SDA church still as an organization is united on marriage being between a man and a woman. But I was at a New Years Eve prayer meeting where I heard a pastor of a large black SDA church say that he was wanting his members to partner with him of fighting homelessness (good), hiring a youth pastor (good) and doing evangelism (good) and then he added "So when you give your money to help LGBTQ remember to give to the Lord too." And I was like "What the hell?" This was formerly a very conservative church. I know some of the people in the audience didn't agree with that but nobody stood up and said anything, and to be fair I didn't either.

    But I also have a brother in law (ex-wife's sister's husband) who has two non-denominational (I think) mega churches. Back in 2020 he wanted to talk politics with me and explain to me why I should support Joe Biden. (I think he thought I supported Trump because most people can't think outside the two parties). We argued back and forth until finally I said "You're church runs a daycare right?" He was like "Yes." I was like "Would you be okay with the government telling you that you had to hire gay teachers? Because under Biden that's coming." He just got VERY quiet. He hadn't even thought of that. (Actually recent rulings by SCOTUS state that teachers of schools run by churches, like pastors, are not covered by the Civil Rights Act based on the ecclesiastical exception. So that can't happen per se.)

    Something else that I almost put in the last post but I felt it was getting long. Some years ago TD Jakes was put on the spot by a viewer question when he was being interviewed by Marc Lamont Hill. The question was about the black church and the gay community. TD Jakes answer, which I felt was reasonable, is "All churches don't teach the same thing so go wherever you feel comfortable but don't try to make my church conform to your views." A lot of people interpreted TDJ as saying his own views on gays and gay marriage was "evolving" and he was attacked by Christian conservatives. However this is becoming an issue again because there's been video released of him leaving a "Diddy party" and Diddy supposedly goes both ways. (Denzel Washington was seen leaving a Diddy party early with a look of disgust on his face.)





    And again, I know this had nothing to do with the question of children. But then again it does. A cornerstone of the modern gay rights movement is "Gays are 100% born, not made." If that's true then it's impossible to "groom" kids...supposedly. (Of course that's ridiculous because even straight kids can be groomed by opposite gender sexual predators like all of the 12 - 15 year old boys who have been sexualized by their female teachers). The Christian viewpoint is, even though we all have the propensity to sin, we have the power through Jesus and the duty to overcome sin. Black people in general don't like the idea of anybody being oppressed. (And yes I know about the criminal element that does its share of oppressing and I count government oppressors as criminals too.) And so "phobicphobia" kicks in. (The fear of being labeled a bigot). Really, I have no idea how this all is going to shake out.

    Experimental "vaccines" that have now proved to be both ineffective and unsafe.

    "Freaked out"...interesting choice of words.

    They wanted to put us in prison camps.
    Did you see this thread from 4 years ago?

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ght=COVID+camp

    They actually did put people in COVID camps in Nashville! I really think that COVID was a prelude to the end times / mark of the beast. Not the actual mark of the beast, but a trial run to see how far people would be willing to go when pushed to the extreme.

    Thanks again for the detailed response.
    You're welcome! And thank you for the discussion.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  9. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Most backs on avg run about three decades behind the rest of America in criticizing anything the marxist party they belong to and supported does. There really is no logical explanation for it that Ive seen. The love for obama-biden-harris regimes is sickening but it predates that by a mile. Most people I dont fault for limited and uneducated views ( that represents america in general)but I do fault the black clergy who do not openly oppose the dem platform. They are the worst because they know better. They are not ignorant and know evil when seen.
    Well....black people opposed the Fauci vaccine mandates more than white people.



    I think that's in part because Trump pushed the vaccine back when Biden and Harris were skeptical of it. Remember the 2020 debates?



    Republicans go along with Republican authoritarianism (most of the GOP was lock step in support of the Patriot Act and their voters agreed) and Democrats go along with Democratic authoritarianism. What's interesting is when Biden/Harris flipped on the vaccines, black people were less still less likely to go along with that.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



  10. Remove this section of ads by registering.
  11. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    They actually did put people in COVID camps in Nashville! I really think that COVID was a prelude to the end times / mark of the beast. Not the actual mark of the beast, but a trial run to see how far people would be willing to go when pushed to the extreme.
    You quite right, I concur, COVID was a beta test to see just what people will put up with and if the powers that be could hold on to control long enough when the next plague is released as the entire globe spins out of control, until the desired kill level is reached.

    Christ help us all when they release the next man made plague.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  12. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Well....black people opposed the Fauci vaccine mandates more than white people.

    Republicans go along with Republican authoritarianism (most of the GOP was lock step in support of the Patriot Act and their voters agreed) and Democrats go along with Democratic authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    COVID was a beta test to see just what people will put up with and if the powers that be could hold on to control long enough when the next plague is released as the entire globe spins out of control, until the desired kill level is reached.
    Shhhh [whispers so nobody hears]: So, do you think it was 1. dead people and voter cheating, or 2. a decision made at the WH behind closed doors? In order to obtain compliance among the right, and then the left?
    ____________

    An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)

    The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)

  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Shhhh [whispers so nobody hears]: So, do you think it was 1. dead people and voter cheating, or 2. a decision made at the WH behind closed doors? In order to obtain compliance among the right, and then the left?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Shhhh [whispers so nobody hears]: So, do you think it was 1. dead people and voter cheating, or 2. a decision made at the WH behind closed doors? In order to obtain compliance among the right, and then the left?
    I think it was fear porn over everything. People in my circles got angry at me for thinking for myself. Even angrier than they did for my not supporting Obama. I started just ignoring posts by certain of my friends on Facebook who would say ridiculous things like "It's time for people to stop doing their own research." My longest adult friend stopped speaking to me simply for my pointing out to her the fact that the smallpox vaccine is materially different than the COVID mRNA vaccines because the smallpox vaccine gives sterilizing immunity making ring vaccination possible and the COVID vaccine does not. More recently we found out that they didn't even test it to see if it even stopped transmission.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I think it was fear porn over everything. People in my circles got angry at me for thinking for myself. Even angrier than they did for my not supporting Obama. I started just ignoring posts by certain of my friends on Facebook who would say ridiculous things like "It's time for people to stop doing their own research." My longest adult friend stopped speaking to me simply for my pointing out to her the fact that the smallpox vaccine is materially different than the COVID mRNA vaccines because the smallpox vaccine gives sterilizing immunity making ring vaccination possible and the COVID vaccine does not. More recently we found out that they didn't even test it to see if it even stopped transmission.
    i believed at time no way tey ad time to test it so even if claimed I wouldnt ave velieved it, it was just gobbly gook put togeter like flu vaccine id imagine
    Do something Danke

  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Shhhh [whispers so nobody hears]: So, do you think it was 1. dead people and voter cheating, or 2. a decision made at the WH behind closed doors? In order to obtain compliance among the right, and then the left?
    I'm talking globally.

    These decisions were made many levels above anything or anyone in our government.

    And the answer was a resounding yes, around the world they found they could herd the cats long enough to hunker down, get out of Dodge, do whatever it is they have up their sleeve to avoid being swept away in a teeming mass of billions of dying and insane humanity, when they release the real killer plague germ.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I'm talking globally.
    I'm not.

    These decisions were made many levels above anything or anyone in our government.
    And if that is the case, it is the U.S. politicians in office who are to blame, for financing it, let alone allowing it to happen.

    I still believe that the decision to transfer the POTUS was to get buy-in from the "other side", which means our politicians within our government were complicit.
    Last edited by PAF; 05-22-2024 at 08:03 PM.
    ____________

    An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)

    The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)

  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    And if that is the case, it is the U.S. politicians in office who are to blame, for financing it, let alone allowing it to happen.
    Yes they are.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan



  19. Remove this section of ads by registering.
  20. #17
    I am glad that there are states pushing back on this issue. I have seen a lot of videos made by young people that really regret going thru the transition treatments and that if their parent had understood more about it and their rights instead of being afraid that the state would their child removed from their homes if they did not comply.

    Everything the medical industrial complex does seems insane these days.



Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 29
    Last Post: 05-18-2024, 10:11 AM
  2. OH-State Legislature overrides gov, bans transqueeer procedures for minors
    By Anti Federalist in forum U.S. Political News
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 01-25-2024, 05:04 AM
  3. Replies: 4
    Last Post: 09-26-2023, 11:57 AM
  4. Colorado Bans Gay Conversion Therapy for Minors
    By Swordsmyth in forum U.S. Political News
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 06-02-2019, 11:55 AM
  5. Result of Chinese Bans on Minors @ Internet Cafes
    By Kludge in forum Networks & Technology
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-18-2011, 04:08 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •