Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
Your vision of Trump the Beneficent is no less a fantasy. You just admitted who it is that creates states. It's a fantasy even just to assume that once you take control of it away from these people, they won't try to take it back.

A beneficent state is just as much a fantasy, just as much a utopian swindle that people delude themselves over.
The founders created a state that was far better than any other, so have others throughout history, and so can we.
Imperfect as all governments in history have been, the best of them created by those with good motives are far preferable to just letting the worst of humanity impose their rule on us.