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    Mike Johnson declares war on conservatives

    Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) supports retaliating against Republicans who oppose him, he reportedly told high-dollar donors at the swanky Four Seasons in Washington.

    Johnson signaled to the high-powered group at a fundraiser on Sunday that he would support kicking members who blocked his coalition government’s legislative agenda off committees. He also said he is in favor of changing House rules – such as rules on the motion to vacate – at the end of this Congress.

    His remarks come as Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) gets ready to trigger a vote this week on her motion to vacate the chair, the same procedural motion which ousted Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) from the speakership in October last year.

    Greene announced she would force the vote after what Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) calls Johnson’s “three betrayals.” Specifically, Johnson ended work being done to pass each of the 12 individual appropriations bills and passed a two-part omnibus bill overwhelmingly supported by Democrats, rammed through a reauthorization of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) after casting the deciding vote to kill a warrant requirement for spying on Americans, and carried out a scheme to unlock tens of billions in Ukraine aid despite promising not to do so without addressing the border crisis.

    House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) went as far as claiming it is he, not Johnson, controlling the House agenda.

    “Even though we’re in the minority, we’ve effectively been governing as if we were in the majority because we continue to provide a majority of the votes necessary to get things done,” he told CBS. “Those are just the facts.”

    Johnson has made history by working with Democrats to send legislation to the floor over the objections of conservatives within his own party.

    The House also must vote to pass rules on the floor before voting on underlying legislation. As on the Rules Committee, it is incredibly rare for the minority party to vote on a rule issued by the majority.

    Yet Johnson has resorted to passing legislation on the House floor with Democrat rules, effectively forming a coalition government with Democrats.

    Greene’s vote is likely to be tabled by Johnson, with Jeffries and Democrat leaders vowing to save Johnson once on a motion to table. If Greene persists by forcing a vote a second time – or more – all bets are off.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...mocrat-agenda/
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    This guy is worthless.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

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    He passed the "Israeli, Ukrainian support aid bill" in congress without mentioning anything on the border or border security.

    While the democrats waved the Ukrainian flag in Congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    This guy is worthless.
    Worse. The word snake comes to mind. Republicans should sue him for fraud.
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    Video footage finally reveals Mike Johnson on a trip to Ukraine several years ago...

    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
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    @Brian4Liberty

    For some reason that piano piece makes me feel like I'm gonna cry! Totally off topic, I know, but it's so moving.

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    What a shock that a neocon like Johnson would declare war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    What a shock that a neocon like Johnson would declare war.
    I don't know anything about record before he was speaker but he seems to be a very deceitful player. There are so damn many of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    For some reason that piano piece makes me feel like I'm gonna cry! Totally off topic, I know, but it's so moving.
    The sonata is in three movements, in case you had not ever listened to the entire piece.

    This is regarded as one of the best performances of it, from back in the 80s iirc.

    One of the finest works of art ever composed by the hands of man...If God is merciful, when western civilization is finally killed off by the unwholesome flood, maybe all of us will be lucky enough to at least have this as it's epitaph

    And written as a romantic appeal to an unrequited love of Beethoven's.

    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 05-06-2024 at 10:44 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    I don't know anything about record before he was speaker but he seems to be a very deceitful player. There are so damn many of them.
    He came off as a pretty solid "Christian conservative".

    I have a very good friend in his district who was very supportive of him.

    Too neo-connish for me.

    Then the Small Hat Club took him aside right after being appointed speaker and told him how thing were going to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    He came off as a pretty solid "Christian conservative".

    I have a very good friend in his district who was very supportive of him.

    Too neo-connish for me.

    Then the Small Hat Club took him aside right after being appointed speaker and told him how thing were going to be.
    "Christian conservative" is a red flag for me because they all seem to be Israel firsters (dispensationalists). Find me an Orthodox Christian and I might be interested.
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    Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) failed to concede to Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) and Thomas Massie (R-KY) after a two-hour meeting Monday in which the duo continued pressing for Johnson to resign and end his coalition government with Democrats.

    Greene told reporters after the meeting that she and Massie “had a very long discussion with Speaker Johnson. We’ll be meeting with him again tomorrow based on the discussion and then I’ll have more information.”

    Johnson said after the meeting that he “understand[s] the frustration. I share it. I would really like to advance much more of our conservative policy on a daily basis here. But, the reality is we are working with the smallest majority in U.S. history with a one vote margin.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...d-republicans/

    What a lying sack of $#@! this guy is.
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    Thomas Massie: 'The Next Speaker Is Going To Go Back to the Old Testament'
    The libertarian-adjacent Kentucky congressman says he's against the effort to depose Speaker Kevin McCarthy.
    ERIC BOEHM | 10.3.2023
    https://reason.com/2023/10/03/thomas...old-testament/



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Thomas Massie: 'The Next Speaker Is Going To Go Back to the Old Testament'
    The libertarian-adjacent Kentucky congressman says he's against the effort to depose Speaker Kevin McCarthy.
    ERIC BOEHM | 10.3.2023
    https://reason.com/2023/10/03/thomas...old-testament/



    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...183786?lang=en
    He probably never thought that would be literal. Speaker Omnibus Bible Thumper Rapturetard Chosen People First Judas Johnson.

    So, is Gaetz in the doghouse now? He sure can't be feeling too good about how this panned out.

    Explain this:

    Massie voted against the continuing resolution but said Tuesday it was "the least worst of a bunch of bad options." If the House bill hadn't passed, he said, it's likely that a Senate-drafted continuing resolution including a higher level of spending—mostly because of added military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine, which was left out of the House measure—would have become law.


    How can the Senate introduce a higher level of spending when the constitution gives the House the sole responsibility for introducing bills on spending? I do recall that was violated when Reagan was president.

    I swear, I don't know how anyone can stand being in politics. Constant power struggles and all of these rules would drive me crazy. I'd want to strangle the enemy, too, because their agenda is that evil. I want to see the Freedom Caucus come straight out and say these people are communists who actively working to destroy the country. Stop sugar coating $#@!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) failed to concede to Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) and Thomas Massie (R-KY) after a two-hour meeting Monday in which the duo continued pressing for Johnson to resign and end his coalition government with Democrats.

    Greene told reporters after the meeting that she and Massie “had a very long discussion with Speaker Johnson. We’ll be meeting with him again tomorrow based on the discussion and then I’ll have more information.”

    Johnson said after the meeting that he “understand[s] the frustration. I share it. I would really like to advance much more of our conservative policy on a daily basis here. But, the reality is we are working with the smallest majority in U.S. history with a one vote margin.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...d-republicans/

    What a lying sack of $#@! this guy is.
    And, regarding that, does anyone ever remember Nancy Pelosi giving one inch? I don't.
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    Christian conservative" is a red flag for me because they all seem to be Israel firsters (dispensationalists). Find me an Orthodox Christian and I might be interested.


    I hear ya...brain washing on this group is real

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Christian conservative" is a red flag for me because they all seem to be Israel firsters (dispensationalists). Find me an Orthodox Christian and I might be interested.


    I hear ya...brain washing on this group is real
    Sarah Palin
    Michelle Bachman
    Kristi Noem
    Marsha Blackburn, I suspect, as well. Certainly a bunch from the south. Neocons who aren't Jews but may as well be.

    It's British Israelism. The Synagogue of Satan masquerading as Christianity, serving "their father below", to quote CS Lewis, and thinking they're doing God's work.
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    It’s also a power move up the political ladder

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    It’s also a power move up the political ladder

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    It's all his own fault. All he had to do was nothing. If he didn't bring up the foreign aid bill he wouldn't have to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    And, regarding that, does anyone ever remember Nancy Pelosi giving one inch? I don't.

    https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/1787889915767722311
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    https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/1788325650513719565
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/1788325650513719565
    Judas Johnson is so full of himself, too. Makes him ever harder to stomach.

    Love Marjorie. She's been nothing but pleasant surprises. I'm glad she did this and I see it as a worthy shot across the bow, regardless of today's result.
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    Was Johnson an improvement over McCarthy?
    Had the House been better to have somebody that nobody liked?
    Seems the speaker has too much power.



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