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    Final Nail in America’s Coffin?

    Final Nail in America’s Coffin?
    by Ron Paul | Apr 22, 2024

    When future historians go searching for the final nail in the US coffin, they may well settle on the date April 20, 2024.

    On that day Congress passed legislation to fund two and a half wars, hand what’s left of our privacy over to the CIA and NSA, and give the US president the power to shut down whatever part of the Internet he disagrees with.

    The nearly $100 billion grossly misnamed “National Security Supplemental” guarantees that Ukrainians will continue to die in that country’s unwinnable war with Russia, that Palestinian civilians will continue to be slaughtered in Gaza with US weapons, and that the neocons will continue to push us toward a war with China.

    It was a total victory for the war party.

    The huge spending bill is all about politics for Biden, yet so many Republicans simply went along with it. The last thing the people running Biden’s White House want to see as a close election approaches are ads blaming Biden for “losing Ukraine.”

    The US and its allies have already sent over $300 billion to Ukraine and the country is still losing its war with Russia. Nobody believes another $60 billion will pull a victory from the jaws of defeat. But this additional money is meant to keep up appearances until November at the expense of Americans who are forced to pay for it and Ukrainians who are forced to die for it.

    Speaker Johnson could not have passed these monstrosities without the full support of House Democrats, as the majority of Republicans voted against more money for Ukraine. So in the worst example of “bipartisanship,” Johnson reached across the aisle, stiffed the Republican majority that elected him Speaker, and pushed through a massive gift to the warfare/(corporate) welfare state.

    After the House voted to send another $60 billion to notoriously corrupt Ukraine, Members waved Ukrainian flags on the House Floor and chanted “Ukraine, Ukraine.” While I find it distasteful and disgusting, in some way it seemed fitting. After all, they may as well chant the name of a foreign country because they certainly don’t care about this country!

    Along with sending $100 billion that we don’t have to fund more overseas war, Speaker Johnson threw in another version of the Tik Tok ban, which gives Joe Biden and future presidents the power to shut down websites at will by simply declaring them to be “foreign adversary controlled.”

    Not to be outdone, the US Senate on that same day passed the extension of Section 702 of the FISA Act, which not only allowed the government to continue spying on us without a warrant, but also contained new language massively expanding how they can spy on us.

    Many conservative voters are asking what the point of Republican control of the House is if the agenda is determined by Democrats. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer is even reported to have bragged to his colleagues about how easily Speaker Johnson gave Democrats everything they wanted and asked for nothing in return.

    What is the silver lining in all this bad news? Most Republicans in the House voted against continuing the Ukraine war. That’s a good start. Our ideas are growing, not only across the country but even in the DC swamp. Take courage and don’t give up! Work for peace!
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    Final Nail in America’s Coffin?
    At this point, it's all nails and no coffin.
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    Well empires usually last around 250 years and America is currently in it's 247th year.
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    I'm thinking Americans need to also consider the first nail in America's coffin: the Constitution. Abandoning the Articles of Confederation was a very bad move, regardless of the intent behind it.

    To my possibly blind eyes, the second nail was our failure to prevail during the Whiskey Rebellion where Americans should have identified every congressman who voted in favor of the bill and put them to the sword, along with the president who signed it into effect. Every officer who complied with the orders to put troops against free Americans should also have met the rope, their small children forced to witness is as a message to all comers as to what awaits them when they get stupid with out liberties.

    This is the ONLY solution because human beings are $#@!ty, nasty little apes who are more than willing and eager to venture down paths of corruption. It's our hunter-gatherer instincts run verily amok.


    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Final Nail in America’s Coffin?
    by Ron Paul | Apr 22, 2024

    When future historians go searching for the final nail in the US coffin, they may well settle on the date April 20, 2024.

    On that day Congress passed legislation to fund two and a half wars, hand what’s left of our privacy over to the CIA and NSA, and give the US president the power to shut down whatever part of the Internet he disagrees with.


    And I maintain my position that this must happen if there is to be so much as the thinnest sliver of hope for humanity as a species. We have sailed way past that line where we could have saved this land by decent and rational and comparatively inexpensive means. But now, having tap-danced well beyond that point, all that remains to us in options is kill or capitulate.

    The nearly $100 billion grossly misnamed “National Security Supplemental” guarantees that Ukrainians will continue to die in that country’s unwinnable war with Russia, that Palestinian civilians will continue to be slaughtered in Gaza with US weapons, and that the neocons will continue to push us toward a war with China.
    Since I don't give a tinker's damn about either Ukrainians, Russians, Palestinians, Israelis, or any of the vast myriad hordes of less-than-useless human populations, I have to call this one good. Let them kill each other to the man, that the world improve by those quanta.

    It was a total victory for the war party.
    And it is a good thing.

    The huge spending bill is all about politics for Biden, yet so many Republicans simply went along with it. The last thing the people running Biden’s White House want to see as a close election approaches are ads blaming Biden for “losing Ukraine.”

    The US and its allies have already sent over $300 billion to Ukraine and the country is still losing its war with Russia. Nobody believes another $60 billion will pull a victory from the jaws of defeat. But this additional money is meant to keep up appearances until November at the expense of Americans who are forced to pay for it and Ukrainians who are forced to die for it.
    Good. Firstly, there's no shortage of either Ukrainians or Russians, so I say let her rip. But more importantly, it sets us a big step closer to teetering such that we will actually topple into the abyss. Before being appalled by my sentiments, bear in mind that the sooner we fall, the greater the chance that perhaps some shred of self-respect will remain, sufficient for an admittedly low percentage of men to take up arms and perhaps even prevail, unlikely as the latter may seem at this time.

    Sitting around amusing ourselves with the Palm sisters avails us nothing and promises our destruction as a free people. At this time our only real chance is rivers and oceans of blood. It's sad and it's $#@!ty, but we've chosen it and must now live with the consequences.

    Imminent destruction of everything we claim to hold dear seems the sole possibility for Americans to get it up enough to do what is necessary to avoid outright servitude, and my optimism there is vanishingly thin.

    So I say let her rip. Let us once and for all see whether America has anything left worth the saving. This slow burn into ignominy is the pits.
    Last edited by osan; 04-27-2024 at 07:22 PM.
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