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    Trump Sold-Out His Base to Shovel $95 Billion to Ukraine and Israel

    By Mike Whitney
    The Unz Review
    April 23, 2024


    America last. America last. That’s all this is. America last, every single day. – Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene

    The man who is most responsible for the $95 billion giveaway to Ukraine and Israel, is the same guy who pretends to oppose America’s “wasteful” foreign wars. Donald Trump. It was Trump who consulted with Speaker Mike Johnson about the contents of the Ukraine aid package, just as it was Trump who concocted the idea of issuing loans instead of dispersing the standard welfare handout. It was also Trump who said:

    “I stand with the Speaker, (Mike Johnson)” after which he added that Johnson is doing “a very good job”.

    A “good job”??

    So, secretly collaborating with the Democrat leadership to push through a bill that “reauthorizes FISA to spy on the American people without a warrant, (bans Tik Tok) fully funds Joe Biden’s DOJ that has indicted President Trump 91 times, and giving Biden’s political gestapo a brand new FBI building bigger than the Pentagon,” while not providing a dime to protect the southern border [PAF: demanding cutting off tax payer funding to NGO's and DHS which facilitates transportation] from the swarms of people entering the country illegally, is doing a “good job”?

    The question we should all be asking ourselves is why has Trump decided to participate in this scam? He keeps saying that if he was president, he’d end the war in Ukraine in a day. If he’s sincere about that, then why did he collaborate on a bill that will drag the war out for another year or two? This is from a Twitter post by political analyst Michael Tracey:

    Mission Accomplished. It is done: Donald Trump and the House GOP just completed one of the most epic swindles in political history, with Trump personally effectuating the largest-ever dispersement of Ukraine funding through his emissary, “MAGA Mike Johnson” (as Trump lovingly calls him) The $61 billion passed this afternoon is likely enough to underwrite the brutal, pointless trench warfare for at least another year or two. This after the same old endless media screeching that Trump and MAGA Republicans were being brainwashed by Putin and would never fund Ukraine. That fundamental hoax continues — only this time Trump was in on it…. Michael Tracey, Twitter

    And the response from Luca Cabrilo:

    Michael you’re 100% spot on. Trump could have at any point killed this monstrous bill if he wanted to, but he didn’t. He even let MAGA Mike go on TV and say that he and Trump are “100% agreed” on the Ukraine funding Trump screwed his base on this one, no other way about it.

    Michael Tracey again: He didn’t just “not kill it,” he personally facilitated its passage.

    Here’s more background from Tracey:

    The bill, designed after consultations between Mike Johnson and Trump, mysteriously gives the President the ability to forgive the purported “loan” to Ukraine — immediately after the November election

    And if that’s not brazen enough for you, here’s the catch: The funds eligible for “loan forgiveness” are the direct budgetary infusions to Ukraine — meaning the money that pays for the salaries of Ukrainian government workers and so forth — NOT the military “aid,” which comprises the vast majority of the package. So, only $8 billion of the $61 billion allocated to Ukraine is even *eligible* for “loan forgiveness” under the terms of this gargantuan bill. And even that was a fake “loan” to begin with — it never had to be paid back at all! So there’s your final Trump/Johnson bamboozle, as the House GOP prepares to usher through the *largest ever* infusion of US tax dollars to Ukraine, by far, since the beginning of the war. All with Trump’s blessing, as Johnson has made abundantly clear. To underscore his close collaboration with Trump, Johnson has spent the past several days making the rounds on various conservative media, touting the inclusion of Trump’s “loan concept” in the bill. Michael Tracey.

    It’s all a big shell game and Trump is playing along with it to improve his political prospects. How else would you explain his performance in this dismal charade?

    Trump obviously knows that his return to the White House will require significant compromise with the national security hawks and Zionists who run the government. So, we shouldn’t be too surprised that he’s trying to curry favor with them now. But for the people who thought Trump was a straightshooter; this has got to be a real eye-opener. They thought he could be trusted, but now it’s obvious that he’s just another Beltway phony trying to ingratiate himself with the Washington power-elite in order to shoehorn his sorry a** back into the Oval Office. Here’s more from Tracey:

    Sorry to be a “Broken Record,” but the “Elephant in the Room” here is genuinely Donald J. Trump. ….Trump even warned Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene directly not to oust Johnson, during their joint press conference at Mar-a-Lago last Friday, April 12 — just before Johnson unveiled his war funding strategy, for which he proudly declares having secured Trump’s endorsement. The bill even contains Trump’s repeated demand to structure the Ukraine funding as a so-called “loan”! Johnson proclaims that he and Trump are “One hundred percent united” on all of this (direct quote) …

    Trump has used his vast political capital as three-time Republican Presidential Nominee to play his part assuring that the American political system mobilizes in perfect harmony to unleash $100 billion in endless-war funding. Michael Tracey

    If Trump is willing to play such a duplicitous role in securing the funding for the MIC’s perpetual wars, then why in-heavens-name would any red-blooded conservative vote for him?

    One of the few people who has acted honorably in this fiasco, is Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene, who is clearly one of the few members of Congress that genuinely gives-a-damn about the American people. Greene delivered an epic rant on the floor of the House yesterday following the vote on the Ukrainian aid package. Naturally, her heartfelt presentation appeared nowhere in the sellout media, so I transcribed most of what she said below. It’s worth the time:

    …. The United States taxpayer has already sent $113 billion to Ukraine, and much of that money is unaccounted for. This is an example of a sick business model the US government wants to continue….. The Congress votes for money for foreign wars that the American people do not support….. The American people do not support a business model based on blood and murder and war in foreign countries while the government does nothing to secure our border [PAF: STOP tax payer funding to NGO's and DHS to facilitate transportation].

    The American people are over $34 trillion in debt and the debt is rising by $40 billion every night while we all sleep. But nothing is done to secure our border or reduce our debt. Inflation continues to rise every day and Americans can hardly afford to pay their grocery bills, they can hardly afford to put gas in their cars, and they can hardly afford the rent. And, now, average mortgage payments are over $3000 when they were just $1700 three years ago. Young Americans don’t think they will ever be able to buy a home and yet today, this congress thinks the most important thing they should do is to send another $61 billion to the war in Ukraine that the American people –by 70%– do not support!

    … But, today, the most important thing this body thinks we should do, is not reduce spending, or drive down inflation, or secure our own border that is invaded every single day by people from over 160 different countries… We have over 1.8 million ‘got-aways’ and we don’t know who these people are… and yet we have people in this very congress ‘talking tough’ saying, “We have to defeat Russia. Oh, we have to protect Ukraine” and yet , all of you are unwilling to protect the American citizens that pay your salary, pay to keep the lights on, and pay to keep the federal government running. And for what?

    For nothing! Ukraine isn’t even a member of NATO But all you hear in Washington DC is “Oh, we have to keep spending America’s hard-earned tax dollars to continue to murder Ukrainians to wipe out a whole generation of young men so there are (thousands of ) widows, and fatherless orphans, and not enough men to work in their industries. Oh, but you really support Ukraine. (sarcasm) What kind of support is that? It’s repulsive!

    Shame on the American government! Shame on the American government! If we want to support our military, then support our military. We should be building up our weapons and ammunition, not sending it over to foreign countries to kill foreign people.

    And if this body was what it pretends to be, every single one of us would be demanding peace in Ukraine; peace for these people, so that no more of them have to die. But you never hear anybody demanding peace. No, no, no. Peace is the last thing Washington wants because it doesn’t fit the business model. This is a business model they say builds the American economy and protects American jobs. What a disgusting business model. We should have a business model that builds-up our American companies and American jobs to serve American interests, and our military and our government should care about protecting the national security of the United States of America and the Americans who pay their hard-earned tax dollars to fund all this.

    America last. America last. That’s all this is. America last, every single day.
    Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene



    Reprinted with permission from The Unz Review.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/04/...ne-and-israel/
    Last edited by PAF; 04-23-2024 at 06:47 AM.
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    MALA

    Make America Last Again

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    Choosing between Trump and Biden reminds me of that old joke where the punchline is roughly:

    Choose between death or Magumba.

    I'll choose death.

    Ok, death by Magumba.
    Last edited by sparebulb; 04-23-2024 at 02:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Choosing between Trump and Biden reminds me of that old joke where the punchline is roughly:

    Choose between death or Magumba.

    I'll choose Magumba.

    Ok, death by Magumba.
    But Trump-flavored totalitarianism will clearly be less unpleasant than Biden-flavored totalitarianism is.

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    Mike Whitney is naive to think Trump's base opposes this.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Trump probably got a bribe. He needs the money for all those fines and legal fees. Maybe there will be a Trump resort in Ukraine after the war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Trump probably got a bribe. He needs the money for all those fines and legal fees. Maybe there will be a Trump resort in Ukraine after the war?
    Hold that thought... @Swordsmyth didn't chime in yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Hold that thought... @Swordsmyth didn't chime in yet.
    Here, let me try to figure out his defense of this...

    "You see, Trump is a 4d chess player. He knows that if he didn't consult with Mike Johnson, then praise him afterward, that he may be subject to a future impeachment. See? Has was forced to do that, otherwise really bad things would happen to him! And we can't have bad things happening to him - he's our God!"
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    A veto proof majority of Congress passed the bill. Show me a single representative that changed their vote from no to yes based on the alleged "support" from Trump. You can't, they all wanted it already. Trump has been consistent in calling for peace and the end of the war as soon as possible which would entail concessions with Russia. Any suggestions, like in the OP, that Trump could have stopped the bill if he had just come out harder against it, is just ridiculous fiction.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24
    Trump will win every single state primary by double digits.
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Hold that thought... @Swordsmyth didn't chime in yet.
    Here, let me try to figure out his defense of this...

    "You see, Trump is a 4d chess player. He knows that if he didn't consult with Mike Johnson, then praise him afterward, that he may be subject to a future impeachment. See? Has was forced to do that, otherwise really bad things would happen to him! And we can't have bad things happening to him - he's our God!"
    //

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    President Donald Trump and House Speaker Mike Johnson held a joint press conference earlier today from Mar-a-Lago.

    Keep in mind, the UniParty DC operation is constructed to remove Johnson and negate the Republican majority in the House of Representatives as a strategy against Donald Trump. As an outcome, Trump must navigate this shark infested water very carefully.

    Despite his personal and private opinions of Speaker Johnson, Trump must position support as a method to stop the effort to flip the House prior to the November election. Keep this in mind as you look at “Republican” members who would appear to be targeting Johnson from a MAGA perspective. Even with all the stupidity of the Speaker on full display, removing Johnson right now would be tantamount to a hostile anti-Trump shift in the House… WATCH:



    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...-mike-johnson/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Mike Whitney is naive to think Trump's base opposes this.
    Im a ittle confused , by looking at congress I'll assume establishment dems and establishment GOP are not opposing boatloads of FRN's to foreigners. As far as Im concerned the speaker knew better and did it anyway so thats all we are going to get , more. The fact that he figures he'll get by w/ it tells me everyone's establishment is good w/ it and it is only really people like me opposed. Me being a very small minority.
    Last edited by oyarde; 04-23-2024 at 09:41 AM.
    Do something Danke

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    Au contraire, mes amis. He's being very LOYAL to his true base.


    A few people have asked me about President’s Trump’s tweet in which he used the word “covfefe.” Most people think he meant to write “coverage” and they have had quite a bit of fun with it, but actually it is a real word of Yiddish origin, meaning “a futile search” or “a pointless and false quest.” It was originally transliterated from the Hebrew as “kabfefe,” whose etymology is “kab”—relating to the mystical Qabalah—and “fefe,” which is a word for “butterfly.” What Trump was actually saying in Yiddish tweet-speak was, “We are doing great things despite the press’s negative and pointless search, aka fake news.”

    For those who are interested, the idea of “covfefe” comes from an old Yiddish tale about a foolish Sephardi rabbi who believed he was called to find and destroy the mythical and rare butterfly known as Benshariza, or “Lucifer butterfly”—a name that comes from “Helel ben Shahar,” meaning “shining star” (see Isaiah 14:12; also see Ephesians 2:2, where Satan is called the “prince of the power of the air”). The rabbi claimed that the Benshariza was recognizable by a unique and disturbing pattern on its huge wings, which looked like the moon and star symbol of the god Ba’al-Hadad. He was convinced that this ominous creature housed “the spirit of Satan” and that if he could destroy it, he would free the world of evil.

    His search became an obsession, driving him across Europe to catch countless butterflies, but all he really caught were rounds of derision. His travels took him from Iberia to Bucharest, then up to Moscow, and finally back to Europe again, where he met his doom in the Palatinate (southwestern Germany), in a little town called Cagelenstat.* There he came across a baron who led him to believe that he had the beautiful butterfly in his possession but retorted, “Why, in the name of all things holy, would I hand it over to a little flitting fly-catcher on some stupid kabfefe!” The rabbi, exhausted and frustrated by his long travels, flew into a rage and lunged at the baron, who promptly drove a battle-axe into his skull and ended the meaningless quest. From that point on the word covfefe has been used to laugh at idiots in search of nothing.

    *NOTE: It is likely mere coincidence that Cagelenstat is the original name of Kallstadt, Germany, which happens to be the birthplace of Friedrich Drumpf, the grandfather of Donald J. Trump. Friedrich, or Frederick, who became an American citizen in 1896, often advised his children, “Know what you want and follow your dream, but never get distracted by covfefe!”

    https://mashedradish.com/2017/12/31/...ns-of-covfefe/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    //
    So was that cut and pasted from the Treehouse, or somewhere else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    //
    lol - I love how he points back at Trump @4:39 and says, "including hardened criminals and dangerous persons". Little bit of a Freudian gesture.
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    All 3 top candidates are just players in the same GAME.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    A veto proof majority of Congress passed the bill. Show me a single representative that changed their vote from no to yes based on the alleged "support" from Trump. You can't, they all wanted it already. Trump has been consistent in calling for peace and the end of the war as soon as possible which would entail concessions with Russia. Any suggestions, like in the OP, that Trump could have stopped the bill if he had just come out harder against it, is just ridiculous fiction.
    How many yeses might have changed their votes to no if Trump had taken the right side on this?
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    How many yeses might have changed their votes to no if Trump had taken the right side on this?
    Do you mean so that Trump would sort of prove that he's not part of the Deep State?

    lol
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    This just proves yet again Trump is just a not a real American populist.
    No different from Boris Johnson.

    Considering his family member is Jared Kushner that should have being red flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Considering his family member is Jared Kushner that should have being red flag.
    It was, all the way back in 2015. You just don't remember because it got lost in the crowd.


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    Trump had the power to stop this and he chose to support it. Vote (or don't) accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by familydog View Post
    Trump had the power to stop this and he chose to support it.
    He couldn't put a stop to it. Then Da Jooz would have put all those other candidates back in the GOP primaries, and he wouldn't become president again. Since he's the only Messiah who can save us, then where would we be?

    Do I get the job helping to write his fan fiction yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by familydog View Post
    Trump had the power to stop this and he chose to support it. Vote (or don't) accordingly.
    Not true. 100% of democrats, 210 Dems voted yes, which means less than 7 republicans were needed to pass the bill. Ultimately 101 republicans voted yes, 112 voted no, so a majority voted no. I think Trumps influence clearly helped the republican majority to vote no and more voted no than we've seen previously.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24
    Trump will win every single state primary by double digits.
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    I think Trumps influence clearly helped the republican majority to vote no and more voted no than we've seen previously.
    Um, like, people who were there at the time, like Thomas Massie, said the only reason Democrats and RINOs got to vote on it at all was because Johnson did a completely unprecedented steamroller on the members of his own party in the committee. According to this guy Whitney who wrote the OP, Trump helped him do it.

    So, yeah, Trump seems to have made it possible for a completely insufficient number of Republicans to vote no as it passed by. Er, like, yay?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 04-23-2024 at 11:44 AM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    Not true. 100% of democrats, 210 Dems voted yes, which means less than 7 republicans were needed to pass the bill. Ultimately 101 republicans voted yes, 112 voted no, so a majority voted no. I think Trumps influence clearly helped the republican majority to vote no and more voted no than we've seen previously.
    So he was powerless to stop it AND he supported it. Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    Not true. 100% of democrats, 210 Dems voted yes, which means less than 7 republicans were needed to pass the bill. Ultimately 101 republicans voted yes, 112 voted no, so a majority voted no. I think Trumps influence clearly helped the republican majority to vote no and more voted no than we've seen previously.
    Having enough votes doesn't guarantee that a bill will pass. Lots of bills with enough support to pass never even get voted on at all.

    And regardless of that, this doesn't change how this reflects on Trump one bit, even if he couldn't have made a difference.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Trump was going to sell out the moment he became president. There's no such thing as a president that has never sold out.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Trump was going to sell out the moment he became president. There's no such thing as a president that has never sold out.
    The guy you quoted in your sig never sold out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    A veto proof majority of Congress passed the bill. Show me a single representative that changed their vote from no to yes based on the alleged "support" from Trump. You can't, they all wanted it already. Trump has been consistent in calling for peace and the end of the war as soon as possible which would entail concessions with Russia. Any suggestions, like in the OP, that Trump could have stopped the bill if he had just come out harder against it, is just ridiculous fiction.
    And not only does supporting Johnson keep the House from going to the Demoncrats when more RINOs resign if Johnson is vacated (allowing the Dems to declare Trump ineligible for "Insurrection"), it also makes the continuing failure of the Ukraine war completely Biden's fault.
    The left won't be able to blame Trump and Republicans when Russia wins before the election.

    Johnson selling out didn't leave Trump many good options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by familydog View Post
    So he was powerless to stop it AND he supported it. Wow.
    According to McConnell, he delayed it and held it up by daring to question it.

    $#@!ing Trump's a hell of a guy: he can support it, be powerless to stop it and delay it all at the same time.

    $#@!ing guy's Superman.

    McConnell says Tucker Carlson and Trump's waffling delayed crucial Ukraine aid
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 04-23-2024 at 09:04 PM.
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