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  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    We pretty much do though. The federal level is broken. Any politician not actively pursuing (or accidentally causing [Trump]) secession is wasting their time.
    i dont believe it can be fixed as well, dems just break more faster
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  3. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    We pretty much do though. The federal level is broken. Any politician not actively pursuing (or accidentally causing [Trump]) secession is wasting their time.
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    i dont believe it can be fixed as well, dems just break more faster
    I don't think anything can break it up faster than legit electing a candidate the head gamers in charge don't approve of. I don't think they can adapt. I don't think they have a good contingency plan for that. And I think RFKJr. is just that, and with enough natural name recognition to get 'er done, with some help.

  4. #93
    Take The Guns First Trump is a ****** for not pardoning most of the Jan 6th protestors.

  5. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I don't think anything can break it up faster than legit electing a candidate the head gamers in charge don't approve of. I don't think they can adapt. I don't think they have a good contingency plan for that. And I think RFKJr. is just that, and with enough natural name recognition to get 'er done, with some help.
    RFK is probably less that than Biden is.
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  6. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    And the proof is on the same table as the yellow cake uranium, being presented by the same people.
    He was in the car being picked up at the airport by the heads of the militias doing the attacks.
    He was well known for coordinating terrorism by Iranian proxies in the region and had no legitimate reason to be there.
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  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Bullshyt. William Barr was nominated before Donald Trump made the phone call that led to the first impeachment.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...id-impeachment
    They were pursuing impeachment with the Russia garbage since he was sworn in, his entire term was a balancing act playing one power faction against another in order to do anything and not be removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They were pursuing impeachment with the Russia garbage since he was sworn in, his entire term was a balancing act playing one power faction against another in order to do anything and not be removed.
    Yeah....you just said it yourself. It was garbage. Not a single Republican senator was signing off of that. But the sexual blackmail? When Giuliani basically said "Sure Trump paid off Stormy Daniels, but what of it?" for the first time Trump started getting real push back from Republicans. That's why Trump threw Giuliani under the bus and claimed Giuliani was lying.

    Early on Trump admitted to making the hush money payments.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/05/02/60794...aniels-payment

    Then he threw Giuliani under the bus by denying it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...under-the-bus/

    You're not going to find a single rank and file Republican that would actually be concerned about any of the allegations behind Russiagate even if they were true, which they weren't. If Russian hackers really DID expose Hillary's corruption by hacking her email server, most Republicans would buy them their favorite vodka. But the idea that Trump might have had an affair with a porn star the week after Melania gave birth to Baron is repugnant especially to the very important conservative Christian base. Trump's buddy Bill Clinton could survive having to admit that he "really did have sex with that woman" because the Democratic party is not the party of morals anyway. All of this also explains those times Melania refused to hold Donald's hand in public.



    Melania is a saint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Yeah....you just said it yourself. It was garbage. Not a single Republican senator was signing off of that. But the sexual blackmail? When Giuliani basically said "Sure Trump paid off Stormy Daniels, but what of it?" for the first time Trump started getting real push back from Republicans. That's why Trump threw Giuliani under the bus and claimed Giuliani was lying.

    Early on Trump admitted to making the hush money payments.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/05/02/60794...aniels-payment

    Then he threw Giuliani under the bus by denying it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...under-the-bus/

    You're not going to find a single rank and file Republican that would actually be concerned about any of the allegations behind Russiagate even if they were true, which they weren't. If Russian hackers really DID expose Hillary's corruption by hacking her email server, most Republicans would buy them their favorite vodka. But the idea that Trump might have had an affair with a porn star the week after Melania gave birth to Baron is repugnant especially to the very important conservative Christian base. Trump's buddy Bill Clinton could survive having to admit that he "really did have sex with that woman" because the Democratic party is not the party of morals anyway. All of this also explains those times Melania refused to hold Donald's hand in public.



    Melania is a saint.
    MSM nonsense.
    They would have used anything by now.
    And Trump is a notorious germophobe who could get any woman he wanted as a wife or a mistress, there is no way he touched a whore who is carrying a germ load from the countless men she slept with, that's as ridiculous as the golden showers garbage they made up as part of the Russiagate nonsense


    Whistleblower Claims Michael Avenatti Said Michael Cohen Had Affair With Stormy Daniels Since 2006, Planned Trump Extortion Deal Before 2016 Election

    https://www.oann.com/newsroom/whistl...2016-election/


    2018 Letter From Michael Cohen’s Lawyers Admitting Trump Knew Nothing About Stormy Daniels ‘Hush Money’ Transaction Re-Emerges Ahead of Trial

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...ng-trump-knew/
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  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post

    You're not going to find a single rank and file Republican that would actually be concerned about any of the allegations behind Russiagate even if they were true, which they weren't. If Russian hackers really DID expose Hillary's corruption by hacking her email server, most Republicans would buy them their favorite vodka. But the idea that Trump might have had an affair with a porn star the week after Melania gave birth to Baron is repugnant especially to the very important conservative Christian base. Trump's buddy Bill Clinton could survive having to admit that he "really did have sex with that woman" because the Democratic party is not the party of morals anyway. All of this also explains those times Melania refused to hold Donald's hand in public.
    There were plenty of RINOs eager to jump on the Russiagate bandwagon, many of them made noises about it back then, they just were waiting for McConnell's approval if Trump didn't cut the right kind of deals with him.
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  12. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    MSM nonsense.
    They would have used anything by now.
    He did everything the deep state wanted him to do. Judging by the way the only position at all he has chosen to stand on this round is more money for Israel, he obviously still is, why would they spill the beans?

    You don't seem to understand how this blackmail concept works. You only air the dirt when your mark refuses to be useful to you.

    See how it works now, or do you need me to review?

  13. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    There were plenty of RINOs eager to jump on the Russiagate bandwagon, many of them made noises about it back then, they just were waiting for McConnell's approval if Trump didn't cut the right kind of deals with him.
    Please provide documentation of public statements by RINOs supporting Russiagate sufficient for a 2/3rds vote in the Senate or STFU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  14. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Please provide documentation of public statements by RINOs supporting Russiagate sufficient for a 2/3rds vote in the Senate or STFU.
    You don't get to move the goal posts, the threat was implied by the few who did, they weren't going to all come out and say it before they were ready to do it.
    More may have been said in backrooms, but it didn't need to be.

    We know how power politics works, you pretending not to (or actually being ignorant enough not to) won't fool anyone.
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  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You don't get to move the goal posts...
    You're the one who installed wheels on the damned things. You have no special privilege.

    That's also not what he was doing.

  16. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You don't get to move the goal posts, the threat was implied by the few who did, they weren't going to all come out and say it before they were ready to do it.
    More may have been said in backrooms, but it didn't need to be.

    We know how power politics works, you pretending not to (or actually being ignorant enough not to) won't fool anyone.
    Move the goalposts? That's what you have done! You said Trump did the swamp appointments to avoid the first impeachment! Then after I pointed out that the swap appointments happened BEFORE the first impeachment, you moved the goalpost to "Russiagate." The burden is on YOU to show evidence of Republican Senators buying into Russiagate if you're going to use that argument!
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    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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  18. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    The burden is on YOU to show evidence...
    It is?

    Oh Lord. We're totally adrift now. If the firmest foundation we will ever see from now on is zerohedge, the treehouse of horror and all the rest of the semi-covert alt-right branch of the MSM, I hope we all have our sea-legs. And plenty of dramamine.

    I'm convinced Leonard Nimoy gave them the idea. One day he was shooting a scene where he's playing 3D chess and he decided on a whim to troll the director. Instead of moving a rook, he moved the "satellite board" it was on over to one of the other little pegs that would hold it. He said in an interview he just wanted to see if the director would make him do another take and act right. They went with it, decided it was clever.

    Some young polysci/psych double major saw that and said, we can reinvent football! Leave the damned ball where it is and bring the goalposts to it!
    Last edited by acptulsa; 04-21-2024 at 08:28 AM.

  19. #106
    What were our choices again? The Alpha Male Beholden to Nobody Who Has the Balls to Drain the Swamp, vs. this guy's nephew...

    https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status...68374356717804


  20. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What were our choices again? The Alpha Male Beholden to Nobody Who Has the Balls to Drain the Swamp, vs. this guy's nephew...

    https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status...68374356717804

    True but also true is RFK Jr's (at least publicly stated in interviews) opinons seem to shirk NOT CIA culpability, but rather the hidden motives and the hidden connections which are uncomfortable. Like perhaps Angleton was a double-agent. I'm not talking about him being a double-agent of Ireland, if you know what I mean.
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  21. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    True but also true is RFK Jr's (at least publicly stated in interviews) opinons seem to shirk NOT CIA culpability, but rather the hidden motives and the hidden connections which are uncomfortable. Like perhaps Angleton was a double-agent. I'm not talking about him being a double-agent of Ireland, if you know what I mean.
    He's just a little too busy right now to do any extra deep dives into sixty year old history. No doubt he'll have more time for Trivial Pursuit later. James Jesus Angleton is bones and dust.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 04-21-2024 at 03:36 PM.

  22. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Move the goalposts? That's what you have done! You said Trump did the swamp appointments to avoid the first impeachment! Then after I pointed out that the swap appointments happened BEFORE the first impeachment, you moved the goalpost to "Russiagate." The burden is on YOU to show evidence of Republican Senators buying into Russiagate if you're going to use that argument!
    No, I said he did it to avoid impeachment in general.
    You are the one who moved the goal post to a specific impeachment, then you moved the goal post to specific public threats by enough RINOs to make the difference when politics doesn't work that way.
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  23. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What were our choices again? The Alpha Male Beholden to Nobody Who Has the Balls to Drain the Swamp, vs. this guy's nephew...

    https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status...68374356717804

    RFK has a CIA asset running his campaign.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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  24. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    RFK has a CIA asset running his campaign.
    Trump has Mike Pompeo running around saying, "I'll be Secretary of Defense soon!"

  25. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    RFK has a CIA asset running his campaign.
    When Trump ran the CIA, he installed a torturer as its director and gave over full autonomy over the drone war
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  27. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    RFK supported and still supports the entire D establishment, and that includes their pet RINOs like McConnell whether he is quite as open about that part or not.

    Trump had to negotiate and cut compromises to make any progress at all and to avoid being convicted and removed in one of the phony impeachments which almost happened anyway.
    And nothing can hurt McConnell, he and Dominion have a lock on his seat in both the primaries and the general.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No, I said he did it to avoid impeachment in general.
    You are the one who moved the goal post to a specific impeachment, then you moved the goal post to specific public threats by enough RINOs to make the difference when politics doesn't work that way.
    Byllshyt. You didn't say "impeachment in general." You said "One of the phony impeachments." There were two of them. And he was paying off Stormy Daniels before he even got elected president. Dude was being sexually blackmailed and you know it. Everybody knows that.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  28. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    When Trump ran the CIA, he installed a torturer as its director and gave over full autonomy over the drone war

    Ah yes. "Bloody Gina", known by all. But @Swordsmyth has a logical explanation of that too.


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  29. #115
    Yeah. @Swordsmyth is a one trick pony. I bet next he'll say the reason Trump said in 2000 that he supported an assault weapons ban is that he knew one day he wouldb be president and subject to impeachment.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Take The Guns First Trump is a ****** for not pardoning most of the Jan 6th protestors.
    How can Trump pardon people when he isn't in office? I don't think former presidents have that power do they?
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  31. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    How can Trump pardon people when he isn't in office? I don't think former presidents have that power do they?
    Trump was still president until Biden was sworn in. Trump's last pardon was done on January 20th, 2021.

    https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardo...rump-2017-2021
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  32. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    How can Trump pardon people when he isn't in office? I don't think former presidents have that power do they?
    The electoral vote count in Congress and the inauguration have never happened on the same day. They're a couple of weeks apart.

  33. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    How can Trump pardon people when he isn't in office? I don't think former presidents have that power do they?

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    List of Pardons by Trump:


    - Alex Adjmi: Adjmi was granted a full pardon. The White House said Adjmi was convicted of a financial crime in 1996 and served 5 years in prison.

    - Michael Ashley: Ashley was convicted for bank fraud over the 2009 collapse of mortgage company Lend America and sentenced to 3 years in prison in 2019. He was the executive vice president and chief business strategist with the company. Ashley was ordered to pay $49 million in restitution and $800,000 in forfeiture. His sentence was commuted.

    - Stephen K. Bannon: Trump's former chief strategist in the White House was in charge of the final months of his 2016 presidential campaign and was indicted in August along with three others on wire fraud and money laundering conspiracy charges. Prosecutors alleged that Bannon’s crowdfunding “We Build the Wall” campaign raised more than $25 million from Trump supporters and used hundreds of thousands for personal expenses. He was taken into custody by U.S. Postal Inspection Service agents while on board the yacht of Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui. Bannon received a full pardon and now will not have to face a trial.

    - Dr. Faustino Bernadett: Bernadett, a retired anesthesiologist, was sentenced last year to 15 months in federal prison for taking part in a long-running health care fraud scheme where he authorized sham contracts that concealed over $30 million in illegal kickback payments to physicians, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office. The overall scheme resulted in more than $900 million in fraudulent bills being submitted, the office said. The White House said Bernadett has spent the past year “devoted to helping protect his community from Covid-19.” He received a full pardon.

    - Carl Andrews Boggs: Trump granted a full pardon to Carl Andrews Boggs. In 2014, Boggs pleaded guilty to federal charges stemming from a criminal investigation into the illegal use of a disadvantaged business enterprise to obtain government-funded construction contracts. According to the U.S. Attorney’s Office, he pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to defraud the department of transportation and one count of money laundering conspiracy.

    - Randall “Duke” Cunningham: Another ex-member of Congress, the California Republican was sentenced to 8 years in prison for bribery and was released in 2013. He received a conditional pardon.

    - Kwame Kilpatrick: The former mayor of Detroit had his 28-year sentence commuted. He pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and resigned from office as part of a plea deal in 2008 following a pay-to-play scheme in which Kilpatrick and his father took kickbacks and bribes to steer city business to certain contractors. He initially served 99 days in prison but then served an additional year for violating his probation and was released in 2011.

    - Salomon Melgen: Trump commuted the prison sentence of Melgen, an eye doctor and major Democratic donor convicted of defrauding Medicare patients. He stood trial with New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez, who lobbied Trump for Melgen's case.

    - Rick Renzi: Former U.S. Rep. Rick Renzi, R-Ariz., was granted a full pardon. In 2013, he was sentenced to three years in prison for extortion, bribery, insurance fraud, money laundering and racketeering in a public corruption case. He had served three terms in the House.

    - Aviem Sella: An Israeli citizen, Sella was indicted in March 1987 on charges he recruited convicted American spy Jonathan Jay Pollard to collect U.S. military secrets for Israel. Trump granted him a full pardon and his request was supported by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli ambassador to the U.S. and the U.S. ambassador to Israel.

    - David Tamman: Trump granted a full pardon to David Tamman, who was a partner at a law firm when he doctored financial documents at the behest of a client who was perpetrating a Ponzi scheme. According to the Department of Justice, the scheme ultimately took $22 million from victims. Tamman was found guilty of 10 counts that included obstruction of justice, altering records in a federal investigation, and being an accessory after the fact to the fraud scheme. He was convicted in 2013 and completed his seven-year sentence in 2019.

    - Monstsho Eugene Vernon: Vernon had his sentence commuted after serving 19 years in prison. Vernon committed numerous armed bank robberies in Greenville, South Carolina. The White House said that some of these offenses involved Vernon carrying BB guns as opposed to genuine firearms.


    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ences-n1254806


    But he did not pardon Assange or Snowden.
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    List of Pardons by Trump:


    - Alex Adjmi: Adjmi was granted a full pardon. The White House said Adjmi was convicted of a financial crime in 1996 and served 5 years in prison.

    - Michael Ashley: Ashley was convicted for bank fraud over the 2009 collapse of mortgage company Lend America and sentenced to 3 years in prison in 2019. He was the executive vice president and chief business strategist with the company. Ashley was ordered to pay $49 million in restitution and $800,000 in forfeiture. His sentence was commuted.

    - Stephen K. Bannon: Trump's former chief strategist in the White House was in charge of the final months of his 2016 presidential campaign and was indicted in August along with three others on wire fraud and money laundering conspiracy charges. Prosecutors alleged that Bannon’s crowdfunding “We Build the Wall” campaign raised more than $25 million from Trump supporters and used hundreds of thousands for personal expenses. He was taken into custody by U.S. Postal Inspection Service agents while on board the yacht of Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui. Bannon received a full pardon and now will not have to face a trial.

    - Dr. Faustino Bernadett: Bernadett, a retired anesthesiologist, was sentenced last year to 15 months in federal prison for taking part in a long-running health care fraud scheme where he authorized sham contracts that concealed over $30 million in illegal kickback payments to physicians, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office. The overall scheme resulted in more than $900 million in fraudulent bills being submitted, the office said. The White House said Bernadett has spent the past year “devoted to helping protect his community from Covid-19.” He received a full pardon.

    - Carl Andrews Boggs: Trump granted a full pardon to Carl Andrews Boggs. In 2014, Boggs pleaded guilty to federal charges stemming from a criminal investigation into the illegal use of a disadvantaged business enterprise to obtain government-funded construction contracts. According to the U.S. Attorney’s Office, he pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to defraud the department of transportation and one count of money laundering conspiracy.

    - Randall “Duke” Cunningham: Another ex-member of Congress, the California Republican was sentenced to 8 years in prison for bribery and was released in 2013. He received a conditional pardon.

    - Kwame Kilpatrick: The former mayor of Detroit had his 28-year sentence commuted. He pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and resigned from office as part of a plea deal in 2008 following a pay-to-play scheme in which Kilpatrick and his father took kickbacks and bribes to steer city business to certain contractors. He initially served 99 days in prison but then served an additional year for violating his probation and was released in 2011.

    - Salomon Melgen: Trump commuted the prison sentence of Melgen, an eye doctor and major Democratic donor convicted of defrauding Medicare patients. He stood trial with New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez, who lobbied Trump for Melgen's case.

    - Rick Renzi: Former U.S. Rep. Rick Renzi, R-Ariz., was granted a full pardon. In 2013, he was sentenced to three years in prison for extortion, bribery, insurance fraud, money laundering and racketeering in a public corruption case. He had served three terms in the House.

    - Aviem Sella: An Israeli citizen, Sella was indicted in March 1987 on charges he recruited convicted American spy Jonathan Jay Pollard to collect U.S. military secrets for Israel. Trump granted him a full pardon and his request was supported by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli ambassador to the U.S. and the U.S. ambassador to Israel.

    - David Tamman: Trump granted a full pardon to David Tamman, who was a partner at a law firm when he doctored financial documents at the behest of a client who was perpetrating a Ponzi scheme. According to the Department of Justice, the scheme ultimately took $22 million from victims. Tamman was found guilty of 10 counts that included obstruction of justice, altering records in a federal investigation, and being an accessory after the fact to the fraud scheme. He was convicted in 2013 and completed his seven-year sentence in 2019.

    - Monstsho Eugene Vernon: Vernon had his sentence commuted after serving 19 years in prison. Vernon committed numerous armed bank robberies in Greenville, South Carolina. The White House said that some of these offenses involved Vernon carrying BB guns as opposed to genuine firearms.


    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ences-n1254806


    But he did not pardon Assange or Snowden.
    I LOL every time I see Kwame Kilpatrick's name on that list.

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    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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