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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I no longer hold the opinion that liberal Democrat policies are good for our country.
    I never thought that. Policy-wise, he's totally untenable.

    We weren't talking about business as usual listen to the platforms and try to guess which will do fewer dumb things election year thinking. We were talking monkey wrenches. If he's half what he appears to be he will be too busy trying to oust the swamp gators before they kill him. Literally.

    Monkey wrench, dude. Does that D.C. Machine need a monkey wrench in it or not?

    I'm sick of business as usual thinking. Business as usual is very obviously a thing of the past. If we need a revolution, we had better have it now. And we won't without a spark. They have a plan for us. A dastardly plan, a conspiracy. You can't be naive enough to think otherwise. He Who Must Not Be Named II obviously isn't that plan. So, us rallying around him isn't their plan. That means he just might be the spark we need to blow up their 3D chess endgame.

    Policy. He won't enact any policy. They will fight his every attempt to enact any policy, tooth and nail. The only two questions I have at this point are, does he have enough name recognition to overcome the fact that his political party (if any) has no name recognition at all? And can we count on him to be a solid monkey wrench in their machine?

    I believe their plan is to steal the election from Trump for Captain Brandon Catastrophe again, then capitulate and install Trump -- as dictator. If I'm even in the ballpark of the goal of this obvious game they're obviously playing, then the mere fact that RFKJr. is getting a significant number of votes could completely upset their applecart. And even if I'm not, he could screw up their plans in ways I'm not able to anticipate.



    Do we need a monkey wrench or don't we? Do we need a money wrench? Do we? Got a better, more popular monkey wrench?
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I never thought that. Policy-wise, he's totally untenable.

    We weren't talking about business as usual listen to the platforms and try to guess which will do fewer dumb things election year thinking. We were talking monkey wrenches. If he's half what he appears to be he will be too busy trying to oust the swamp gators before they kill him. Literally.

    Monkey wrench, dude. Does that D.C. Machine need a monkey wrench in it or not?

    I'm sick of business as usual thinking. Business as usual is very obviously a thing of the past. If we need a revolution, we had better have it now. And we won't without a spark. They have a plan for us. A dastardly plan, a conspiracy. You can't be naive enough to think otherwise. He Who Must Not Be Named II obviously isn't that plan. So, us rallying around him isn't their plan. That means he just might be the spark we need to blow up their 3D chess endgame.

    Policy. He won't enact any policy. They will fight his every attempt to enact any policy, tooth and nail. The only two questions I have at this point are, does he have enough name recognition to overcome the fact that his political party (if any) has no name recognition at all? And can we count on him to be a solid monkey wrench in their machine?

    I believe their plan is to steal the election from Trump for Captain Brandon Catastrophe again, then capitulate and install Trump -- as dictator. If I'm even in the ballpark of the goal of this obvious game they're obviously playing, then the mere fact that RFKJr. is getting a significant number of votes could completely upset their applecart. And even if I'm not, he could screw up their plans in ways I'm not able to anticipate.



    Do we need a monkey wrench or don't we? Do we need a money wrench? Do we? Got a better, more popular monkey wrench?
    Obviously RFK is a double agent working a 3D chess game for the D.C. establishment to get you to vote for tyranny. I am amazed you can't see that. You think he is some outsider that wants to break the system, but he is their greatest tool. He will promise you all of these things and then break your heart and then we will have to listen to you make excuses for him for the next 4 years.

    You go ahead and fall for the illusion. I won't be joining you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Obviously RFK is a double agent working a 3D chess game for the D.C. establishment to get you to vote for tyranny. I am amazed you can't see that.
    Oh, the alt-right branch of the MSM got to you.

    Never mind. Have fun swinging in the treehouse. You're obviously no less susceptible to a Narrative than you were when you were a Democrat swallowing the non-alt-right MSM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    With the amount that was spent by the drunken NY Lib Trump (D), and now Biden (D), what difference does it make? Neither one of them are talking about the corruption that RFK is. Hopefully awareness will continue to spread.

    I'm not voting, but how much worse can RFK really be than the two prior democrats Trump and Biden?
    Would RFK sign the ridiculous spending bills that Congress sends over? I imagine he would. I also imagine RFK would be better than every other Democrat president over the last 50 years.

    I appreciate what RFK is doing but I also think Trump will be more effective if given the chance. I don't expect the deep state will allow either of them to reach the White House though.

    I would never claim that Trump was good at being fiscally conservative. I think he his pros and cons. My biggest hope is that Trump now understands how massive the swamp problem is and would be serious about smashing it. Realistically I don't expect anyone to change things, but given Trump's experiences over the last 9 years I think he is the most prepared.

    I live in AZ where our elections are rigged so how I vote doesn't matter.

    Currently my preference is:
    Trump
    RFK
    Harry Browne (deceased)
    Michael Badnarik (deceased)
    Marianne Williamson
    Cornel West
    Biden
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Oh, the alt-right branch of the MSM got to you.

    Never mind. Have fun swinging in the treehouse. You're obviously no less susceptible to a Narrative than you were when you were a Democrat swallowing the non-alt-right MSM.
    I don't watch MSM at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I don't watch MSM at all.
    You don't think you do.

    So here we have this batch of right wing "alternative" websites. And they're surprisingly well funded and slick for "alternative" sites. And they come up surprisingly high on google searches for "alternative" sites. And they agree on practically everything and march in lockstep to a surprising degree for "alternative" sites.

    And the leftist MSM doesn't mention Kennedy at all, while this cabal, this well funded echo chamber, fills Trump worshippers with a story so stupid that only the most gullible will buy it -- the man whose uncle was killed by the CIA, and whose father was killed by the CIA, and whose first cousin was killed by the CIA, and who fought the CIA (among others) tooth and nail over the jab, is doing it all for the CIA.

    And in your book, this is all supposed to be a recipe to get him elected. Even though it obviously couldn't work. Even though they're obviously satisfied with the two proven puppets they have or they wouldn't have forced everyone else out of both primary contests. Even though they clearly, patently, categorically don't want Democrats hearing truths like this after going to such lengths to subvert and pervert them:

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/stat...47743283175924

    Quiet primary season, isn't it? Quietest I've seen. Ever.

    Sure dude. Keep letting them spoon-feed you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Would RFK sign the ridiculous spending bills that Congress sends over? I imagine he would.
    It takes a mighty fertile imagination to picture Congress sending a non-Uniparty president anything to sign. Jimmy Carter was and is a Democrat, and yet they wouldn't pass any of the stuff he championed. That's what he got for not being a member of the CFR, even though he was a member of the Tri-Lateral Commission. And you think they'll let a third party vaxx denier be effective at anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You don't think you do.

    So here we have this batch of right wing "alternative" websites. And they're surprisingly well funded and slick for "alternative" sites. And they come up surprisingly high on google searches for "alternative" sites. And they agree on practically everything and march in lockstep to a surprising degree for "alternative" sites.

    And the leftist MSM doesn't mention Kennedy at all, while this cabal, this well funded echo chamber, fills Trump worshippers with a story so stupid that only the most gullible will buy it -- the man whose uncle was killed by the CIA, and whose father was killed by the CIA, and whose first cousin was killed by the CIA, and who fought the CIA (among others) tooth and nail over the jab, is doing it all for the CIA.

    And in your book, this is all supposed to be a recipe to get him elected. Even though it obviously couldn't work. Even though they're obviously satisfied with the two proven puppets they have or they wouldn't have forced everyone else out of both primary contests. Even though they clearly, patently, categorically don't want Democrats hearing truths like this after going to such lengths to subvert and pervert them:



    Quiet primary season, isn't it? Quietest I've seen. Ever.

    Sure dude. Keep letting them spoon-feed you.



    It takes a mighty fertile imagination to picture Congress sending a non-Uniparty president anything to sign. Jimmy Carter was and is a Democrat, and yet they wouldn't pass any of the stuff he championed. That's what he got for not being a member of the CFR, even though he was a member of the Tri-Lateral Commission. And you think they'll let a third party vaxx denier be effective at anything?
    Oh my dude you are hilarious. You assign all of these thoughts and beliefs to me that are not at all based in reality.

    I don't really think RFK is a double agent. I was just throwing out the same stupid argument you always use with Trump. You know, the moronic theory that Trump is really in cahoots with the deep state and controlled opposition and all of that.

    I just stated in my my previous post to you that I like some things about RFK. Somehow you are so gullible that you fall for the first outlandish thing I say about RFK being a double agent.

    Seriously, you do you and vote for the Democrat Kennedy. I can understand that. Seems like a pretty good guy to me. I just don't agree with most of his positions.

    I on the other hand prefer to join Republican voters in causing trouble for establishment Republican politicians as much as possible, for what it is worth.

    I will be voting for Trump (the real double agent).

    Our country is past saving with elections anyways, so no worries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I will be voting for Trump (the real double agent).

    Our country is past saving with elections anyways, so no worries.
    Right. Got it.

    No worries.

    But you don't get credit for inventing the RFKJr. is CIA narrative, and you can't hang it on me either. Ask Swordsmyth about it, he's an expert in the Trump Fan Fiction field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status...64154493153306
    https://twitter.com/DylanMAllman/sta...31797441499164

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Right. Got it.

    No worries.

    But you don't get credit for inventing the RFKJr. is CIA narrative, and you can't hang it on me either. Ask Swordsmyth about it, he's an expert in the Trump Fan Fiction field.
    I don't want any credit for anything having to do with RFK. He doesn't really matter to me.

    I appreciate that he is opposing the establishment and I hope he can gather up the non crazy liberals to oppose Biden and the gang. Ultimately I see Democrat voters as being to weak to stand up to the corruption in their party.

    Voting isn't my point anymore. Working with voters is what I am interested in. Voting for politicians is kabuki theater. Living with real citizens in real life is what matters to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...67781945360480
    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...67781945360480

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    Meanwhile in Southern California...

    While little Mikey Johnson and Trump collaborate on everything but the USA here's what's happening in their own country, which neither one actually cares about.

    Last Saturday



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    Johnson is what you get when you drag a million dollars through a trailer park. Why wouldn't Trump collaborate with Little Mikey? No one holds JabDaddy accountable anyway.

    The US is the biggest clown show in history. Watch it live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by actual_rebel View Post
    While little Mikey Johnson and Trump collaborate on everything but the USA here's what's happening in their own country, which neither one actually cares about.

    Last Saturday



    2 months ago



    4 months ago



    Johnson is what you get when you drag a million dollars through a trailer park. Why wouldn't Trump collaborate with Little Mikey? No one holds JabDaddy accountable anyway.

    The US is the biggest clown show in history. Watch it live.
    They had send US Coast Guard Navy over in Yemen but not on the US borders.
    U.S. Coast Guard intercepts Iran weapons shipment headed for Yemen


    A U.S. Coast Guard cutter deployed to the Middle East intercepted a shipment of weapons Iran was sending to its proxy Houthi militia in Yemen, the U.S. military said Thursday.

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    The good guys...

    Only 21 members of Congress out of 431 voted NO on both Ukraine AND Israel funding yesterday. They are:

    Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ)
    Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO)
    Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN)
    Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-GA)
    Rep. Eli Crane (R-AZ)
    Rep. Warren Davidson (R-OH)
    Rep. Scott DesJarlais (R-TN)
    Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL)
    Rep. Bob Good (R-VA)
    Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ)
    Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA)
    Rep. Andy Harris (R-MD)
    Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY)
    Rep. Cory Mills (R-FL)
    Rep. Troy Nehls (R-TX)
    Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC)
    Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA)
    Rep. Matt Rosendale (R-MT)
    Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX)
    Rep. Tom Tiffany (R-WI)
    Rep. Ryan Zinke (R-MT)
    ...
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    Mike Johnson is a POS. He has decided to be Bidens rear end licker.

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    We could have had this guy but instead nominated the guy who says speaker Johnson is MAGAMIKE


  20. #107
    Johnson was feeling some heat and voided the fine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by helenpaul View Post
    We could have had this guy
    "The #1 issue that our voters wanted them to address is the southern border
    The voters are stoopid.

    You don't throw tons of money on police-state solutions trying to fix a government created problem, without first stopping the funding that is responsible for transporting them.



    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    There was money for the U.S. border in that pork bill.



    Money to pay people to illegally cross it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    The voters are stoopid.

    You don't throw tons of money on police-state solutions trying to fix a government created problem, without first stopping the funding that is responsible for transporting them.
    Voters are very stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    To make things matter worse none of them in the video were waving "American Flags"

    "Ukrainian Borders are our borders"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    WOW! This should get interesting. He's sure picked the wrong guy to try an intimidate and I hope it blows up in his face.
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/stat...50372347642289

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/stat...61296063524930

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    https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/stat...92998016761927



    And Miss Lindsay Graham says Johnson couldn't have done it without Trump.

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    Last edited by acptulsa; 04-24-2024 at 05:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post


    Likely blackmail.

  32. #118
    https://twitter.com/JoeyMannarinoUS/...73134208626956

    The only Senators who voted against sending our hard-earned money to Ukraine were:

    Barrasso (Wyoming)
    Blackburn (Tennessee)
    Braun (Indiana)
    Budd (North Carolina)
    Cruz (Texas)
    Daines (Montana)
    Hagerty (Tennessee)
    Hawley (Missouri)
    Johnson (Wisconsin)
    Lee (Utah)
    Lummis (Wyoming)
    Marshall (Kansas)
    Rubio (Florida)
    Schmitt (Missouri)
    Scott (Florida)
    Tuberville (Alabama)
    Vance (Ohio)
    Merkley (Massachusetts)
    Sanders (Vermont)

    Rand Paul, for some reason, chose not to vote.

    The rest sold us out.
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  33. #119
    Mike Johnson got booed at a event.

  34. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Mike Johnson got booed at a event.
    Haven't used this in a while...

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