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    John Hostettler is running for congress

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    Wait, the United States of Izrael hates him?

    He's got my vote.

    Where's Hostettler stand on Trump, the only thing Sword cares about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Wait, the United States of Izrael hates him?

    He's got my vote.

    Where's Hostettler stand on Trump, the only thing Sword cares about.
    Hostetter is FOR Military Tribunals, The Patriot Act, NATO Expansion, DEA, Iran Military Operations, etc. etc.

    But as long as AIPAC opposes him, everybody should automatically support him. Much like if the media hates Trump, we [not me] should automatically love him.


    John Hostetter On The Record
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    If he wants to win he should distance himself from Trump and try to win on his own merits.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Hostetter is FOR Military Tribunals, The Patriot Act, NATO Expansion, DEA, Iran Military Operations, etc. etc.

    But as long as AIPAC opposes him, everybody should automatically support him. Much like if the media hates Trump, we [not me] should automatically love him.


    John Hostetter On The Record
    This guy sounds like he's very confused.

    Or a MAGA-ier psyop to be an example of what happens if you run on a principle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    This guy sounds like he's very confused.

    Or a MAGA-ier psyop to be an example of what happens if you run on a principle.
    Yah WTF?
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    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Hostetter is FOR Military Tribunals, The Patriot Act, NATO Expansion, DEA, Iran Military Operations, etc. etc.

    But as long as AIPAC opposes him, everybody should automatically support him. Much like if the media hates Trump, we [not me] should automatically love him.


    John Hostetter On The Record
    80% lifetime Liberty score.
    If you can't find someone better stop trying to help the worse people he's running against.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    If he wants to win he should distance himself from Trump and try to win on his own merits.
    That's idiotic.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Thanks for starting this thread. I was going to start one myself.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    80% lifetime Liberty score.
    If you can't find someone better stop trying to help the worse people he's running against.
    Let's say that I had $10,000 to give away. I give $1 to 249 various A-Star organizations, and $9,751 to one F-Star organization. It would appear that I did so much good giving one measly dollar to 249 A-star rating orgs, but it's that one biggie that I gave $9,9751 to who tramples on my throat [liberty]. Do the math 249 to 1 and see how much good I actually did.

    If you are willing to consent to the utter b&ll$#@! that he voted for/against, who am I to stop you? You represent the majority of the voters in this country who have contributed to where we are today.



    John Hostettler
    Representative
    Indiana District 8
    Republican
    Status: Former Legislator


    Voted YES on H.R. 6166 Military Tribunals
    We Oppose. Under this bill, a defendant's rights would be curtailed: he would be denied the right of habeas corpus; he could be detained indefinitely; and evidence obtained through coercion could be used against him--so long as the coercion falls outside the administration's definition of torture.

    Voted NO on H.R. 5631 Iran Military Operations
    We Support. The power to declare war belongs to Congress, not to the president, and such power should not be in the hands of one man. The amendment would bar any funds to initiate military operations in Iran unless it is in accordance with Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, which delegates to Congress alone the power to declare war.

    Voted YES on H.R. 5384 Agriculture Appropriations
    We Oppose. Federal aid to farmers and federal food aid to individuals are not authorized by the Constitution.

    Voted YES on H.R. 4939 Supplemental Appropriations
    We Oppose. Even if the spending were constitutional, the funding should be voted on as part of the regular appropriations process and not introduced after the fact as "emergency" spending, ignoring fiscal responsibility.

    Voted YES on H.R. 3199 Patriot Act Reauthorization
    We Oppose. The Patriot Act tramples on the constitutionally protected rights of U.S. citizens.

    Voted YES on H.R. 3010 Labor-HHS-Education Appropriations
    We Oppose. This bill would provide an increase in spending, and social-welfare programs are unconstitutional.

    Voted YES on H.R. 2123 Head Start Funding
    We Oppose. This bill would further federalize the educational system, and federal aid to education is unconstitutional.

    Voted YES on H.R. 3 Surface Transportation
    We Oppose. This bill increases transportation spending and is fiscally irresponsible.

    Votyed YES on H.R. 3199 Patriot Act Reauthorization
    We Oppose. The Patriot Act tramples on the constitutionally protected rights of U.S. citizens.

    Voted YES on H R 2745 Henry J. Hyde United Nations Reform Act
    We Oppose. UN "Reforms." On the surface, this United Nations "reform" bill (H.R. 2745) appears to be a "conservative" get-tough response to UN corruption. It would withhold up to 50 percent of U.S. dues to the UN unless the UN makes certain operational changes, and many "conservatives" voted for it. In reality, the legislation calls for strengthening the UN in the name of "reform." Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) warned in his June 13 Texas Straight Talk column that the "reform" bill supports creation of a "Peace-building Commission," which "will serve as the implementing force for the internationalization of what were formerly internal affairs of sovereign nations."

    Voted YES on H R 1268 Making emergency supplemental appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2005, and for other purposes.
    We Oppose. Supplemental Appropriations. The final version (conference report) of this supplemental appropriations bill (H.R. 1268) would add another $82 billion to the federal budget.

    Voted YES on H R 3550 Transportation Equity Act
    We Oppose. Surface Transportation. This bill (H.R. 3550) would authorize $284 billion in federal aid for highway, mass transit, and safety and research programs.

    Voted YES on H R 3289 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for Defense and for the Reconstruction of Iraq and Afghanistan
    We Oppose. Supplemental Spending for Iraq & Afghanistan. The final version (conference report) of H.R. 3289 would appropriate $87.5 billion in supplemental fiscal 2004 spending for military operations and reconstruction in Iraq and Afghanistan. This is the largest supplemental that Congress has ever passed. Of this total, military operations would receive $65.8 billion. Iraq reconstruction would be funded by grants totaling $18.6 billion, while reconstruction in Afghanistan would receive $1.2 billion.

    Voted YES on S. 2578 Debt Limit
    We Oppose. The supposed need for increasing the debt ceiling by $450 billion demonstrates that the federal government is still on a trajectory of out-of-control spending. Instead of raising the legal limit on what the federal government may borrow, Congress should cut spending.

    Voted YES on H R 3717 Federal Deposit Insurance Reform Act
    We Oppose. Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC). This bill would merge two FDIC insurance funds and increase the amount of FDIC-protected money in individual bank accounts from $100,000 to $130,000. As is the case with most agencies created by Congress, FDIC is just another example of an unconstitutional activity of the federal government.

    Voted YES on H R 2646 Farm Security Act
    We Oppose. Farm Bill. The final version (conference report) of H.R. 2646 amends and extends the major farm income support, land conservation, food assistance, trade promotion, rural development, research, forestry, and energy programs administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. When combined with estimated spending already authorized prior to enactment of this law, the Congressional Budget Office estimates that "H.R. 2646 will bring total spending for the above programs to $73.7 billion in 2002 … and $869.3 billion over the 2002-2012 period. Of these totals, food assistance programs account for $51.3 billion in 2002 … and $626.8 billion over the 2002-2012 period." Constitutionalists have denounced H.R. 2646 because it repudiates free-market principles and authorizes vast amounts of unconstitutional spending.

    Voted YES on H R 3210 Terrorism Risk Protection Act
    We Oppose. Terrorism Insurance. This bill (H.R. 3210) would authorize a three-year federal loan program to help the casualty and property insurance industry cover future terrorist-related losses. The loans would pay 90 percent of claims arising from acts of terrorism next year that result in more than $1 billion in insured claims. The loans would be repaid through assessments on insurance companies to repay insured claims for up to $20 billion. Loans for insured claims beyond $20 billion and up to $100 billion would be repaid through surcharges on commercial policyholders. This bill would also restrict terrorist-related lawsuits to federal court, ban punitive damages in such suits, and limit non-economic damages and attorneys fees.

    Voted YES on H R 3167 NATO Expansion. Gerald B.H. Solomon Freedom Consolidation Act
    We Oppose. NATO Expansion. This bill’s self-described purpose (H.R. 3167) is: "To endorse the vision of further enlargement of the NATO Alliance articulated by President George W. Bush on June 15, 2001, and by former President William J. Clinton on October 22, 1996…." In this bill the House "… reaffirms its [Congress’] previous expressions of support for continued enlargement of the NATO Alliance contained in the NATO Participation Act of 1994, the NATO Enlargement Facilitation Act of 1996, and the European Security Act of 1998…." This bill also authorizes a total of $55.5 million in military aid for fiscal 2002 for Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Bulgaria, and Romania. However, Congress should be acting to preserve our national sovereignty by getting our nation out of NATO. NATO was established as a subsidiary of the United Nations by the North Atlantic Treaty (April 4, 1949), which stated in its Article 1: "The Parties undertake, as set forth in the Charter of the United Nations, … to refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations."

    Voted YES on H.R. 3162 Anti-Terrorism Authority
    We Oppose. This bill expands the list of crimes deemed terrorist acts; increases the ability of law enforcement to secretly search homes and business records; expands the FBI's wiretapping and surveillance authority; and provides for nationwide jurisdiction for search warrants and electronic surveillance devices, including the legal extension of those devices to e-mail and the Internet.

    Voted YES on H R 2926 Air Transportaion Safety and System Stabilization Act
    We Oppose. Airline Bailout. After the September 11th terrorist attacks, the House voted on a bailout for the airline industry known as the Air Transportation Safety and System Stabilization Act (H.R. 2926). This Act would provide $5 billion in cash, and up to $10 billion in loan guarantees, for air carriers.

    Voted YES on H R 4811 Foreign Operations Appropriations
    We Oppose. Fiscal 2001 Foreign Aid Giveaways. This bill would waste $13.3 billion for international giveaways and export subsidies. Although the bill represents a $451 million cut from fiscal 2000, one dime in foreign aid is one dime too much.

    Voted NO on H R 4392 On Agreeing to H. Amdt. 738 to H R 4392
    We Support. Disclose Intelligence Spending to Congress. Representative Tim Roemer (D-IN) offered this amendment to require the CIA director to submit an unclassified report every year to Congress on total spending on intelligence operations.

    Voted YES on H R 853 On Agreeing to H. Amdt. 709 to H R 853
    We Oppose. Automatic Funding of the Welfare State. Representative George Gekas (R-PA) offered this dangerous amendment to automatically renew funding for any of the regular 13 appropriations bills at the previous year’s spending level if they are not en-acted into law by the new fiscal year. According to Representative Jim Walsh (R-NY), under the amendment, Congress would "yield more power to the President by putting the government out on automatic pilot."

    Voted NO on H R 3908 On Agreeing to H. Amdt. 642 to H R 3908
    We Support. DEA Funding Cuts. Representative Ron Paul (R-TX) offered this amendment to the fiscal 2000 supplemental appropriations bill. It called for a $293 million cut in Drug Enforcement Administration funding, a $186 million cut in funding for drug-fighting by the Defense Department, and another $1.1 billion cut in economic aid to Colombia. The amendment also would halt funding for military construction outside the U.S. and would end funding for military operations in Kosovo and East Timor, unless the funds were used to bring the troops home. In floor debate, Paul described his amendment as dealing with a "monster" of "careless foreign military interventionism."

    Voted YES on H R 3908 Making Emergency Supplemental Appropriations
    We Oppose. Money for Foreign Intervention. The fiscal 2000 supplemental appropriations bill provides $13.2 billion for a number of measures, including funding for operations in Kosovo and East Timor ($5 billion), aid to combat drugs in Colombia ($1.7 billion), and Defense Department funding ($4 billion).

    Voted NO on On Agreeing to H. Amdt. 612 to H CON RES 290
    We Support. 2001 Budget by Conservative -Action Team. Representative John Sununu (R-NH) proposed this substitute budget amendment on behalf of the Conservative Action Team. This amendment would freeze non-defense discretionary spending, increase defense spending, and provide for $270 billion in tax cuts.

    Voted YES on H R 3064 District of Columbia Appropriations Act
    We Oppose. Labor/HHS/Education Spending. This $317 billion appropriations bill is the main funding measure for the federal welfare state during fiscal 2000. This bill would amount to an increase over the bloated fiscal 1999 appropriation of nearly nine percent. This increase still wasn’t enough for President Clinton; some of his Democratic supporters joined stalwart opponents of the welfare state in voting against the bill.

    Voted YES on H R 2 Student Results Act
    We Oppose. Federal Education Grants. This legislation would fund Title I spending — which dispenses grants to primary and secondary schools — to the tune of $9.9 billion. This represents a 28 percent increase over fiscal 1999! Representative Ron Paul (R-TX) explained that, "like most federal programs, Title I was launched with the best of intentions, however, good intentions are no excuse for Congress to exceed its constitutional limitations by depriving parents, local communities and states of their rightful authority over education. The Tenth Amendment does not contain an exception for ‘good intentions’!"



    Freedom Index Low Time Score: 68% (Lifetime: 80%)

    https://thenewamerican.com/freedom-i...lator/h000807/
    Last edited by PAF; 04-07-2024 at 08:12 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Let's say that I had $10,000 to give away. I give $1 to 249 various A-Star organizations, and $9,751 to one F-Star organization. It would appear that I did so much good giving one measly dollar to 249 A-star rating orgs, but it's that one biggie that I gave $9,9751 to who tramples on my throat [liberty]. Do the math 249 to 1 and see how much good I actually did.

    If you are willing to consent to the utter b&ll$#@! that he voted for/against, who am I to stop you? You represent the majority of the voters in this country who have contributed to where we are today.
    In no way is your analogy accurate.
    You are cherry picking the worst votes from his worst year (after which he quit, probably because he didn't like the pressure for those votes in the post 9/11 era) and ignoring and devaluing his far greater number of good votes on subjects just as important.

    Again, point to someone better who is running or shut up.
    With an 80% lifetime score he will be a massive improvement, if we get enough 80% class people in office their individual failures will always be a minority because they won't all be the same and will will actually make progress in the right direction.

    Your record here is clear.
    You attack every effective and overall positive movement or candidate over whatever weaknesses you can while pushing completely impractical alternatives which will only backfire and benefit the enemies of liberty.

    Obvious sabotage is obvious.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Again, point to someone better who is running or shut up.
    It's always "better-worse" with you people, willing to sacrifice fundamental principles for the sake of "winning". While at the same time calling Justin Amash who has a 97% all time high, a traitor.


    Your record here is clear.

    You attack every effective and overall positive movement or candidate over whatever weaknesses you can while pushing completely impractical alternatives which will only backfire and benefit the enemies of liberty.
    Whether I vote or not, that's called holding them accountable, something you know nothing about.

    No matter how many good little votes you add up, it is the bad ones that matter the most. You tell me how the following actually Makes America Great!, because in my clear eyes, votes like the following are a complete and utter SELL-OUT:


    John Hostettler
    Representative
    Indiana District 8
    Republican
    Status: Former Legislator


    Voted YES on H.R. 6166 Military Tribunals
    We Oppose. Under this bill, a defendant's rights would be curtailed: he would be denied the right of habeas corpus; he could be detained indefinitely; and evidence obtained through coercion could be used against him--so long as the coercion falls outside the administration's definition of torture.

    Voted NO on H.R. 5631 Iran Military Operations
    We Support. The power to declare war belongs to Congress, not to the president, and such power should not be in the hands of one man. The amendment would bar any funds to initiate military operations in Iran unless it is in accordance with Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, which delegates to Congress alone the power to declare war.

    Voted YES on H.R. 5384 Agriculture Appropriations
    We Oppose. Federal aid to farmers and federal food aid to individuals are not authorized by the Constitution.

    Voted YES on H.R. 4939 Supplemental Appropriations
    We Oppose. Even if the spending were constitutional, the funding should be voted on as part of the regular appropriations process and not introduced after the fact as "emergency" spending, ignoring fiscal responsibility.

    Voted YES on H.R. 3199 Patriot Act Reauthorization
    We Oppose. The Patriot Act tramples on the constitutionally protected rights of U.S. citizens.

    Voted YES on H.R. 3010 Labor-HHS-Education Appropriations
    We Oppose. This bill would provide an increase in spending, and social-welfare programs are unconstitutional.

    Voted YES on H.R. 2123 Head Start Funding
    We Oppose. This bill would further federalize the educational system, and federal aid to education is unconstitutional.

    Voted YES on H.R. 3 Surface Transportation
    We Oppose. This bill increases transportation spending and is fiscally irresponsible.

    Votyed YES on H.R. 3199 Patriot Act Reauthorization
    We Oppose. The Patriot Act tramples on the constitutionally protected rights of U.S. citizens.

    Voted YES on H R 2745 Henry J. Hyde United Nations Reform Act
    We Oppose. UN "Reforms." On the surface, this United Nations "reform" bill (H.R. 2745) appears to be a "conservative" get-tough response to UN corruption. It would withhold up to 50 percent of U.S. dues to the UN unless the UN makes certain operational changes, and many "conservatives" voted for it. In reality, the legislation calls for strengthening the UN in the name of "reform." Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) warned in his June 13 Texas Straight Talk column that the "reform" bill supports creation of a "Peace-building Commission," which "will serve as the implementing force for the internationalization of what were formerly internal affairs of sovereign nations."

    Voted YES on H R 1268 Making emergency supplemental appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2005, and for other purposes.
    We Oppose. Supplemental Appropriations. The final version (conference report) of this supplemental appropriations bill (H.R. 1268) would add another $82 billion to the federal budget.

    Voted YES on H R 3550 Transportation Equity Act
    We Oppose. Surface Transportation. This bill (H.R. 3550) would authorize $284 billion in federal aid for highway, mass transit, and safety and research programs.

    Voted YES on H R 3289 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for Defense and for the Reconstruction of Iraq and Afghanistan
    We Oppose. Supplemental Spending for Iraq & Afghanistan. The final version (conference report) of H.R. 3289 would appropriate $87.5 billion in supplemental fiscal 2004 spending for military operations and reconstruction in Iraq and Afghanistan. This is the largest supplemental that Congress has ever passed. Of this total, military operations would receive $65.8 billion. Iraq reconstruction would be funded by grants totaling $18.6 billion, while reconstruction in Afghanistan would receive $1.2 billion.

    Voted YES on S. 2578 Debt Limit
    We Oppose. The supposed need for increasing the debt ceiling by $450 billion demonstrates that the federal government is still on a trajectory of out-of-control spending. Instead of raising the legal limit on what the federal government may borrow, Congress should cut spending.

    Voted YES on H R 3717 Federal Deposit Insurance Reform Act
    We Oppose. Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC). This bill would merge two FDIC insurance funds and increase the amount of FDIC-protected money in individual bank accounts from $100,000 to $130,000. As is the case with most agencies created by Congress, FDIC is just another example of an unconstitutional activity of the federal government.

    Voted YES on H R 2646 Farm Security Act
    We Oppose. Farm Bill. The final version (conference report) of H.R. 2646 amends and extends the major farm income support, land conservation, food assistance, trade promotion, rural development, research, forestry, and energy programs administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. When combined with estimated spending already authorized prior to enactment of this law, the Congressional Budget Office estimates that "H.R. 2646 will bring total spending for the above programs to $73.7 billion in 2002 … and $869.3 billion over the 2002-2012 period. Of these totals, food assistance programs account for $51.3 billion in 2002 … and $626.8 billion over the 2002-2012 period." Constitutionalists have denounced H.R. 2646 because it repudiates free-market principles and authorizes vast amounts of unconstitutional spending.

    Voted YES on H R 3210 Terrorism Risk Protection Act
    We Oppose. Terrorism Insurance. This bill (H.R. 3210) would authorize a three-year federal loan program to help the casualty and property insurance industry cover future terrorist-related losses. The loans would pay 90 percent of claims arising from acts of terrorism next year that result in more than $1 billion in insured claims. The loans would be repaid through assessments on insurance companies to repay insured claims for up to $20 billion. Loans for insured claims beyond $20 billion and up to $100 billion would be repaid through surcharges on commercial policyholders. This bill would also restrict terrorist-related lawsuits to federal court, ban punitive damages in such suits, and limit non-economic damages and attorneys fees.

    Voted YES on H R 3167 NATO Expansion. Gerald B.H. Solomon Freedom Consolidation Act
    We Oppose. NATO Expansion. This bill’s self-described purpose (H.R. 3167) is: "To endorse the vision of further enlargement of the NATO Alliance articulated by President George W. Bush on June 15, 2001, and by former President William J. Clinton on October 22, 1996…." In this bill the House "… reaffirms its [Congress’] previous expressions of support for continued enlargement of the NATO Alliance contained in the NATO Participation Act of 1994, the NATO Enlargement Facilitation Act of 1996, and the European Security Act of 1998…." This bill also authorizes a total of $55.5 million in military aid for fiscal 2002 for Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Bulgaria, and Romania. However, Congress should be acting to preserve our national sovereignty by getting our nation out of NATO. NATO was established as a subsidiary of the United Nations by the North Atlantic Treaty (April 4, 1949), which stated in its Article 1: "The Parties undertake, as set forth in the Charter of the United Nations, … to refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations."

    Voted YES on H.R. 3162 Anti-Terrorism Authority
    We Oppose. This bill expands the list of crimes deemed terrorist acts; increases the ability of law enforcement to secretly search homes and business records; expands the FBI's wiretapping and surveillance authority; and provides for nationwide jurisdiction for search warrants and electronic surveillance devices, including the legal extension of those devices to e-mail and the Internet.

    Voted YES on H R 2926 Air Transportaion Safety and System Stabilization Act
    We Oppose. Airline Bailout. After the September 11th terrorist attacks, the House voted on a bailout for the airline industry known as the Air Transportation Safety and System Stabilization Act (H.R. 2926). This Act would provide $5 billion in cash, and up to $10 billion in loan guarantees, for air carriers.

    Voted YES on H R 4811 Foreign Operations Appropriations
    We Oppose. Fiscal 2001 Foreign Aid Giveaways. This bill would waste $13.3 billion for international giveaways and export subsidies. Although the bill represents a $451 million cut from fiscal 2000, one dime in foreign aid is one dime too much.

    Voted NO on H R 4392 On Agreeing to H. Amdt. 738 to H R 4392
    We Support. Disclose Intelligence Spending to Congress. Representative Tim Roemer (D-IN) offered this amendment to require the CIA director to submit an unclassified report every year to Congress on total spending on intelligence operations.

    Voted YES on H R 853 On Agreeing to H. Amdt. 709 to H R 853
    We Oppose. Automatic Funding of the Welfare State. Representative George Gekas (R-PA) offered this dangerous amendment to automatically renew funding for any of the regular 13 appropriations bills at the previous year’s spending level if they are not en-acted into law by the new fiscal year. According to Representative Jim Walsh (R-NY), under the amendment, Congress would "yield more power to the President by putting the government out on automatic pilot."

    Voted NO on H R 3908 On Agreeing to H. Amdt. 642 to H R 3908
    We Support. DEA Funding Cuts. Representative Ron Paul (R-TX) offered this amendment to the fiscal 2000 supplemental appropriations bill. It called for a $293 million cut in Drug Enforcement Administration funding, a $186 million cut in funding for drug-fighting by the Defense Department, and another $1.1 billion cut in economic aid to Colombia. The amendment also would halt funding for military construction outside the U.S. and would end funding for military operations in Kosovo and East Timor, unless the funds were used to bring the troops home. In floor debate, Paul described his amendment as dealing with a "monster" of "careless foreign military interventionism."

    Voted YES on H R 3908 Making Emergency Supplemental Appropriations
    We Oppose. Money for Foreign Intervention. The fiscal 2000 supplemental appropriations bill provides $13.2 billion for a number of measures, including funding for operations in Kosovo and East Timor ($5 billion), aid to combat drugs in Colombia ($1.7 billion), and Defense Department funding ($4 billion).

    Voted NO on On Agreeing to H. Amdt. 612 to H CON RES 290
    We Support. 2001 Budget by Conservative -Action Team. Representative John Sununu (R-NH) proposed this substitute budget amendment on behalf of the Conservative Action Team. This amendment would freeze non-defense discretionary spending, increase defense spending, and provide for $270 billion in tax cuts.

    Voted YES on H R 3064 District of Columbia Appropriations Act
    We Oppose. Labor/HHS/Education Spending. This $317 billion appropriations bill is the main funding measure for the federal welfare state during fiscal 2000. This bill would amount to an increase over the bloated fiscal 1999 appropriation of nearly nine percent. This increase still wasn’t enough for President Clinton; some of his Democratic supporters joined stalwart opponents of the welfare state in voting against the bill.

    Voted YES on H R 2 Student Results Act
    We Oppose. Federal Education Grants. This legislation would fund Title I spending — which dispenses grants to primary and secondary schools — to the tune of $9.9 billion. This represents a 28 percent increase over fiscal 1999! Representative Ron Paul (R-TX) explained that, "like most federal programs, Title I was launched with the best of intentions, however, good intentions are no excuse for Congress to exceed its constitutional limitations by depriving parents, local communities and states of their rightful authority over education. The Tenth Amendment does not contain an exception for ‘good intentions’!"
    ____________

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  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    80% lifetime Liberty score.
    If you can't find someone better stop trying to help the worse people he's running against.
    Since when do you care about liberty scores?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  16. #14
    I thought you meant the old Giants QB. let me see... oh yeah, that's Jeff Hostetler.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    I thought you meant the old Giants QB. let me see... oh yeah, that's Jeff Hostetler.
    lifetime completion percentage 58 , about 10 to 12 percent below a Sam Bradford / Kirk Cousins type of guy
    Do something Danke

  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Since when do you care about liberty scores?
    Absolute Thomas Massie hater, now champions Liberty scores? WTF??!! lol



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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    I thought you meant the old Giants QB. let me see... oh yeah, that's Jeff Hostetler.
    If he doesn't make mistakes... he can win a Super Bowl with that DEFENSE

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    I thought you meant the old Giants QB. let me see... oh yeah, that's Jeff Hostetler.
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    lifetime completion percentage 58 , about 10 to 12 percent below a Sam Bradford / Kirk Cousins type of guy
    Vote Raiders...


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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    It's always "better-worse" with you people, willing to sacrifice fundamental principles for the sake of "winning". While at the same time calling Justin Amash who has a 97% all time high, a traitor.
    He aided the communists taking over our country multiple times and ways.
    But I'm not going to tell anyone to not vote for him until there is someone better running.

    You know what principle actually matters? More liberty instead of less.
    You advocate things that reduce liberty cloaked in virtue signalling and making the perfect the enemy of the good.
    I advocate things that will increase liberty.


    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Whether I vote or not, that's called holding them accountable, something you know nothing about.

    No matter how many good little votes you add up, it is the bad ones that matter the most. You tell me how the following actually Makes America Great!, because in my clear eyes, votes like the following are a complete and utter SELL-OUT:
    You pick the times to "hold them accountable" that most help the enemies of liberty and are never to be found when it might help liberty.

    Holding them accountable comes second to increasing liberty, so shut up unless you have someone better who is running to promote.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Absolute Thomas Massie hater, now champions Liberty scores? WTF??!! lol
    I always have, and I take Massie's into account, it's why I have not advocated for voting against him at any time, there is not a better person running to vote for instead.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    shut up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    so shut up
    How long are you going to wage this failed war on the free speech of forum members before you figure out there's not a damned thing you can do to enforce it?

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You know what principle actually matters? More liberty instead of less.
    You advocate things that reduce liberty cloaked in virtue signalling and making the perfect the enemy of the good.
    I advocate things that will increase liberty.
    Ah yes, the pro-liberty groyper.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Ah yes, the pro-liberty groyper.
    TBH, I finally had to look up "groyper"...

    On May 31st, 2017, a 4chan user replied to a thread on /pol/ about Pepe the Frog, saying "Groyper is a toad. He's friends with Pepe".
    ...
    Groypers or Groyper Army refers to a group of far-right and alt-right nationalists and conservatives led by political commentator Nicholas J. Fuentes who are critical of mainstream conservative groups and speakers due to them stepping away from values considered "true conservatism" by the Groypers.[10][11][12] Those targeted, mocked and/or trolled by the group include Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, Dan Crenshaw, Trump Jr. and an American conservative nonprofit organization Turning Point USA.

    The movement takes their name from the meme, with Groyper memes widely used by those associated with the group.
    ...
    https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/groyper
    So, basically internet trolls who listen to Nick Fuentes. I'd guess the only people who know that off the top of their heads are those listeners themselves, and the SPLC devotees who spend their time tracking anyone who disagrees with them.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    lifetime completion percentage 58 , about 10 to 12 percent below a Sam Bradford / Kirk Cousins type of guy
    It was a very different game then. If he played today he would be a Cousins no problem.
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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    It was a very different game then. If he played today he would be a Cousins no problem.
    guy was like 51 percent in college , so i doubt it, He'll never catch my freshman percentage of 2 - 2 , lol
    Do something Danke

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That's idiotic.
    Considering the majority of MAGA candidates lose their elections, it's really not.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Considering the majority of MAGA candidates lose their elections, it's really not.
    People who reject Trump lose more often, especially if they aren't in the RINO establishment.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Ah yes, the pro-liberty groyper.
    Swing and a miss.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Swing and a miss.
    Puh-lease.

    I looked it up in the urban dictionary. They had your picture.



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