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    Gun control debate: Spike Cohen vs. David Hogg

    Guns In America: Debate on Gun Control with David Hogg and Spike Cohen
    The Dartmouth Political Union welcomes David Hogg and Spike Cohen to debate gun-related issues in the United States.
    https://www.eventbrite.com/e/guns-in...s-862269460167
    {Dartmouth Political Union @ Eventbrite | undated}

    Date and time:

    Wednesday, April 10, 2024
    6:00pm - 7:30pm EDT

    About this event:

    We are pleased to welcome David Hogg and Spike Cohen on Wednesday, April 10 at 6:00 pm for an expert debate on gun control legislation in America. Gun violence prevention activist David Hogg and former Libertarian vice presidential candidate Spike Cohen will discuss various aspects of the issue, including the Second Amendment, public safety, and policy effectiveness. The debate will be held in-person in Filene Auditorium and live-streamed at dartgo.org/gundebate [see the video embedded below - OB].

    David Hogg, a survivor of the Parkland school shooting, has become a prominent voice of his generation advocating against gun violence. Co-founding March For Our Lives, he led one of the nation's largest demonstrations, rallying 800,000 protestors in Washington, D.C. A Harvard graduate, David co-founded Leaders We Deserve, aiming to elect young progressives.

    Spike Cohen was the Libertarian candidate for Vice President in 2020. Traveling across the country and speaking with victims of the War on Guns, he has seen firsthand the harms caused by gun control, and the dire need to end it. He is the Founder of You Are The Power, a nonprofit dedicated to helping people who are being victimized by their local governments.

    The Dartmouth Political Union is the preeminent non-partisan, student-led political organization at Dartmouth College. The DPU promotes open discourse by hosting speakers from across the political spectrum, holding student debates, and organizing campus-wide discussions on relevant political issues. To learn more or support the DPU's work, visit thedpu.org.



    Guns In America: Debate on Gun Control with David Hogg and Spike Cohen
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x763ahtuKe8
    {Dartmouth Political Union | 10 April 2024}

    Gun violence prevention activist David Hogg and former Libertarian vice presidential candidate Spike Cohen will discuss various aspects of the issue, including the Second Amendment, public safety, and policy effectiveness.

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    post-debate bump

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    30 minutes in... Hogg starts out by backtracking a bit, saying that his greatest concern is not guns themselves, but death by suicide. As to be expected, Spike is focusing on natural rights and the fact that guns are merely a tool and not the cause of various types of gun deaths.

    Hogg is throwing out a lot of fallacies, assumptions and unproven “facts”. His biggest point is that the problem with guns is that they are too effective for suicides. He claims that if it weren't for guns, there would be fewer successful suicides, and that suicidal people would get help after failed attempts. Of course he does not have data on this, and his solution to everything seems to be “the government needs to spend billions to study the issue”. Hmmm. Wonder who gets that money?

    Will continue at a later time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post

    1:28:30 is all that needs to be said.

    Issues concerning poverty, suicide, mental health, etc. should be addressed separately, keeping in mind that much [though not all] of these problems are caused by government, pharmaceutical, education, etc., which opens up other big cans of worms. It's not "the guns".
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    1:28:30 is all that needs to be said.
    This woman escaped communism. Watch her end David Hogg's career with a single question on gun control
    https://notthebee.com/article/chines...-hogg-event-qa
    {Annie Oakley | 12 April 2024}

    [all emphasis in the original - OB]

    Gun control activist David Hogg took a Q&A during a speaking event at Dartmouth recently, and that was a huge mistake because this woman, Lily Tang Williams, who escaped Chinese communism and is now running for office as a Republican in New Hampshire, happened to be in the crowd and packing one of the most mind-blowing gun debate questions of all time.

    Here it is (reminder: Mao took the guns away from the people of China):

    https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/st...36392311545907

    I am a Chinese immigrant who survived communism, and under Mao, you know, 40 million people were starving to death after he sold communism to them, and 20 million people died, murdered, during his cultural revolution. So my question to you, David, is can you guarantee me, a gun owner, tonight, our government in the U.S., in D.C., will never, never become a tyrannical government?




    Nailed it!

    Bravo, Lily Tang. Bravo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    This woman escaped communism. Watch her end David Hogg's career with a single question on gun control
    https://notthebee.com/article/chines...-hogg-event-qa
    {Annie Oakley | 12 April 2024}

    [all emphasis in the original - OB]

    Gun control activist David Hogg took a Q&A during a speaking event at Dartmouth recently, and that was a huge mistake because this woman, Lily Tang Williams, who escaped Chinese communism and is now running for office as a Republican in New Hampshire, happened to be in the crowd and packing one of the most mind-blowing gun debate questions of all time.

    Here it is (reminder: Mao took the guns away from the people of China):

    https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/st...36392311545907

    I am a Chinese immigrant who survived communism, and under Mao, you know, 40 million people were starving to death after he sold communism to them, and 20 million people died, murdered, during his cultural revolution. So my question to you, David, is can you guarantee me, a gun owner, tonight, our government in the U.S., in D.C., will never, never become a tyrannical government?




    Nailed it!
    Bravo, Lily Tang. Bravo.

    Boom.

    That was awesome.

    [You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Occam's Banana again.]



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    David Hogg gets destroyed at Dartmouth

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1778436392311545907



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    She is the type of immigrant we should be welcoming with open arms. Like Yeonmi Park, I love me some Lily Tang Williams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    She is the type of immigrant we should be welcoming with open arms. Like Yeonmi Park, I love me some Lily Tang Williams.
    Lily Tang Williams

    Yeonmi Park

    And Xi Van Fleet is good, too.


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    I was giving a small party of business travelers a lift to the airport years ago, and the lone female in the group was talking up gun control. She ran out of breath for a moment, so I said, "So you trust the government."

    "Uh, no..."

    "Can't have it both ways."

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    I'm surprised David Hogg is even still around. His 15 minutes of fame ended 6 years ago.
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    David Hogg Meets Buzzsaw in Gun Debate
    The Tom Woods Show: Episode 2479
    https://odysee.com/@TomWoodsTV:e/dav...n-gun-debate:1
    {TomWoodsTV | 17 April 2024}

    Spike Cohen, 2020 VP candidate for the LP, had a chance to debate David Hogg at Dartmouth on guns in America. You can guess how it came out. Spike reviews the debate with us in this episode.

    Guest's Website: You Are the Power: https://www.youarethepower.net

    Guest's Twitter: @RealSpikeCohen

    Debate Discussed: Guns in America: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x763ahtuKe8 [see this post - OB]


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    THREAD: NYC - judge says 2A doesn't exist in her courtroom

    "There's no way I can ever guarantee that any government will not be tyrannical." -- David Hogg

    https://twitter.com/RealSpikeCohen/s...31272547553416



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