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    Democracy is nothing more than mob rule.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Democracy is nothing more than mob rule.
    Nearly every political system is, some just have extra steps
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    "The policies of the democratic totalitarians are consistent with each other, and consistent with what they mean by 'democracy'. And they are consistent also in being uniformly directed against the foundations of freedom. Not unity but difference, not the modern state but whatever is able to maintain itself against the state, not leaders but unyielding opponents of leaders, not conformity with official opinion but persisting cirticism, are the defenses of freedom." -- James Burnham, The Machiavellians
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    • "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
      -- The Law (p. 54)
    • "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
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    Representarianism is not true Democracy.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Representarianism is not true Democracy.
    Okay.

    You made the word up. I guess you can say what it does and doesn't mean.



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Okay.

    You made the word up. I guess you can say what it does and doesn't mean.
    Fine. Because humans don't construct words and those non-words are not really words until a suitable authority prints them in an official dictionary.

    Therefore, I shall rather claim that Representationism is not true Democracy.

    Even though I find it most appropro to refer to those who adhere only to the Representative form of government as Representarians, I must adhere to the published authorities whom refer to them as Representationists.

    There is yet no "need" to deem representationists as representarians because they are not a party, largely due to the fact that representationism is not challenged politically.

    Unfortunately, even the word "Representationism" is not about government at all.

    Therefore, I have no English language way of identifying the group which conflates representatives with democracy, I suppose Republican is the most fitting.

    Republicanism is not true Democracy.
    Last edited by Snowball; 04-03-2024 at 07:08 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Republicanism is not true Democracy.
    Being something other than mob rule is and has long been considered a feature of representative democracy, not a bug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Being something other than mob rule is and has long been considered a feature of representative democracy, not a bug.
    A settlement has 20 families.

    There is a question about where to dig a drainage swale. As all the land is claimed by at least one of the families, and the drainage swale is going to have to disrupt anywhere from 1-5 properties to some degree, while at the same time benefitting all 20 families, and doing nothing is not an option, a decision must be made.

    How should this go about?

    1) Democracy
    The 20 families sent their family heads, mostly men, but a couple women, to meet for a discussion on this matter.
    It is proposed that every family state its agreement or disagreement on 3 proposals.
    The proposal with the highest support ratio wins.

    Alternatively...

    2) Representatives to be Officials
    Each adult (at least 18 years of age) within each family, a total of 60 persons, gathers in the grange to anonymously remit their choice from a list of willing candidates, to elect an authority in persona, who will decide on the matter. The candidates lobby all 60, and some of them state their preferences for a construction plan, others don't really say, but appear to look professional, and another promises that if he is selected, his friends from a town elsewhere are prepared to give the settlement 60 head of cattle, for the 20 homesteads. They won't really say why the other town wants to "give" them 60 head of cattle, but they like meat and milk, so don't really push the question.

    This candidate who promises the 60 cattle wins. The drainage swale is constructed which significantly damages the property of 2 families, but leaves the other 18 untouched. After a few seasons of not making it on the land, the 2 families sell their property to these people from the town from elsewhere. Since their candidate is in charge, he lets them set up a mill. The mill owners bring more than half the flour to their town, and charge the 18 remaining families to use the mill. After some more years, these men "from away" have lots of money and buy out 10 of the 18 families. Now, they own the place, make it town, put themselves up as the council, and tax the remaining 8 families. Meanwhile, the other town is fighting with some tribe out in the mountains and needs to field an army because they want that land the tribe is living on. So, they write a law saying they can "draft" the men of those 8 families, and if the men don't fight for them, they are imprisoned and their families won't survive.

    The question is, would this outcome have been possible if (1) was simply done instead?
    Last edited by Snowball; 04-03-2024 at 07:58 AM.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    How Liberal Democracies Become Tyrannies
    The Tom Woods Show: Episode 2494
    https://odysee.com/@TomWoodsTV:e/how...me-tyrannies:8
    {TomWoodsTV | 23 May 2024}

    Auron McIntyre has written a book that will stand the test of time, tracing the process by which "liberal democracies" degenerate into tyrannies.

    Book Discussed: The Total State: How Liberal Democracies Become Tyrannies

    Guest's Twitter: @AuronMacintyre

    Guest's Podcast: The Auron MacIntyre Show

    Show notes page: https://tomwoods.com/2494

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    The American Caesar
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Se-6PrTJpU
    {Sargon of Akkad | 23 May 2024}

    For want of yielding a little, they lost it all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    How Liberal Democracies Become Tyrannies
    The Tom Woods Show: Episode 2494
    https://odysee.com/@TomWoodsTV:e/how...me-tyrannies:8
    {TomWoodsTV | 23 May 2024}

    Auron McIntyre has written a book that will stand the test of time, tracing the process by which "liberal democracies" degenerate into tyrannies.

    Book Discussed: The Total State: How Liberal Democracies Become Tyrannies

    Guest's Twitter: @AuronMacintyre

    Guest's Podcast: The Auron MacIntyre Show

    Show notes page: https://tomwoods.com/2494

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Will Our Deranged Regime Eventually Collapse? | TWS #2498
    The Tom Woods Show: Episode 2498
    https://odysee.com/@TomWoodsTV:e/wil...e-eventually:9
    {TomWoodsTV |31 May 2024}

    Auron MacIntyre returns to talk further about his book The Total State, including likely outcomes and whether there's reason, in the long run, to be white-pilled.

    Book Discussed: The Total State: How Liberal Democracies Become Tyrannies

    Guest's Twitter: @AuronMacintyre

    Guest's Podcast: The Auron MacIntyre Show




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