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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    No. Rand is about the best that we have in the senate. But there are issues that I have with him which are contrary to my principles and beliefs.

    I don't need or want others to represent me. And I certainly will not transfer my rights to representatives. My individual rights are up to me to defend/protect.

    But, most of America seems fine with that, so, they can do what they want, even though it continues to bring them and this country down.
    So once again I have to ask, what are you doing here? What do you have to offer this forum? What can you get from this forum? What message are you trying to resonate?
    I got it. You support free chit. No borders. Squatters rights. No property rights.
    You support only that which is not attainable.
    Last edited by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged; 03-20-2024 at 04:27 PM.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    So once again I have to ask, what are you doing here? What do you have to offer this forum? What can you get from this forum? What message are you trying to resonate?
    I can ask you the same question. What are you doing here? Is the prerequisite to post here to choose a lesser of evil, which imo is an act of aggression? Does your entire universe begin and end whether another person decides to vote or not? What are you trying to resonate?

    In answer to your question, I am merely conversing with a few folks on the forum discussing principles of liberty, and asking a few questions here and there to clarify such. Can you show me on this little doll where it hurts?
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I can ask you the same question. What are you doing here? Is the prerequisite to post here to choose a lesser of evil, which imo is an act of aggression? Does your entire universe begin and end whether another person decides to vote or not? What are you trying to resonate?

    In answer to your question, I am merely conversing with a few folks on the forum discussing principles of liberty, and asking a few questions here and there to clarify such. Can you show me on this little doll where it hurts?
    I don't think any form of liberty is pure enough for you.
    It seems like you were advocating for RFK Jr. would you vote for him?

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    No. Rand is about the best that we have in the senate. But there are issues that I have with him which are contrary to my principles and beliefs.

    I don't need or want others to represent me. And I certainly will not transfer my rights to representatives. My individual rights are up to me to defend/protect.

    But, most of America seems fine with that, so, they can do what they want, even though it continues to bring them and this country down.
    What dont you like about Rand ?
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    I don't think any form of liberty is pure enough for you.
    It seems like you were advocating for RFK Jr. would you vote for him?
    LOL, no, you are very incorrect. I said that I would support him, based upon his speeches concerning captive agencies, pharm-industrial complex, corporations that willfully contaminate local water supplies with no repercussion, etc. I have stated more than several times that I will not vote him or anybody else.

    I guess my goal here is to help spread the truth the best I can with what I have to work with. What people do is really up to them ;-)
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    What dont you like about Rand ?
    Did I say I don't like him?

    Seriously, he's a very good republican, with libertarian leanings ;-)
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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Did I say I don't like him?

    Seriously, he's a very good republican, with libertarian leanings ;-)
    Would you vote for Massie if you lived in his district?

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    LOL, no, you are very incorrect. I said that I would support him, based upon his speeches concerning captive agencies, pharm-industrial complex, corporations that willfully contaminate local water supplies with no repercussion, etc. I have stated more than several times that I will not vote him or anybody else.

    I guess my goal here is to help spread the truth the best I can with what I have to work with. What people do is really up to them ;-)
    advocate

    noun1. a person who publicly supports or recommends a particular cause or policy

    Can you not advocate RFK Jr. and not vote for him? Can you not advocate some of his policies?



  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Would you vote for Massie if you lived in his district?
    I have actually had dinner with Tom and know his positions. Yes, he would be the only person who could represent me.
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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    If he were half the libertarian he claims to be, he'd close it down.
    He wouldn't have the power to do that, only Congress can, since Congress started it. The courts could close it down if they ruled it unconstitutional, but that is unlikely.

    However if he were DHS Secretary he could very much cripple the organization to a great extent. The problem is that the bureaucrats would make it so that we suffer because of it (think, insanely long TSA delays, passport delays, NICS delays, CBP crossing delays, etc).
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Did I say I don't like him?

    Seriously, he's a very good republican, with libertarian leanings ;-)

    Thats cool but what are the issues you have with him?
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Thats cool but what are the issues you have with him?
    He's not an anarchist ;-)
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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Makes sense:





    - Vivek Ramaswamy Tried To Sell The Feds A National Medical Surveillance System


    - Vivek Ramaswamy Strikes Again, This Time Launching a Beijing-based Biotech Player with a Pipeline



    - Vivek Ramaswamy's Roivant Advisory Board:


    Kathleen Sebelius

    Kathleen Sebelius previously served as U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) under Barack Obama, where she presided over 11 operating divisions, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Food and Drug Administration and the National Institutes of Health and oversaw the passage and implementation of the Affordable Care Act. Before that, she served as governor of Kansas.

    https://theorg.com/org/roivant-scien...hleen-sebelius
    https://www.marketscreener.com/insid...BELIUS-A1T2TT/

    Tom Daschle

    Senator Daschle is one of the longest serving Senate Democratic leaders in history and one of only two to serve twice as both Majority and Minority Leader. During his tenure, Senator Daschle navigated the Senate through some of its most historic economic and national security challenges. He served for three years as an intelligence officer in the U.S. Air Force Strategic Command. After military service, he spent five years as an aide to South Dakota Senator James Abourezk before seeking elected office. Senator Daschle is the Founder and CEO of The Daschle Group, A Public Policy Advisory of Baker Donelson. As a well-known expert on health policy reform, he has written two books: "Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis" and "Getting It Done: How Obama and Congress Finally Broke the Stalemate to Make Way for Health Care Reform"

    https://biography.omicsonline.org/un...daschle-967225

    Olympia Snowe

    Republican Senator Maine
    Senate Armed Services Committee Subcommittee

    Data once present, no longer present.


    Vivek Ramaswamy On The Record

    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    - Vivek wants to shut down the FBI (<--I am all for it, but not for this-->) and replace it with a "Police Apparatus", so that said Police Apparatus can actually do the job of Background Checks. He also wants to transfer 15,000 FBI Agents to the DEA.


    Vivek Ramaswamy On The Record
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  17. #44
    Noem just signed a big anti-Semitism bill.... That's a UGE sign that she has been selected.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Voting is an act of aggression. I may believe in 10 things that you like, and 30 things that you don't. You may believe in 15 things that I like, and 15 things that I don't. Should I compromise myself concerning things that directly impact me and my family? Should you compromise yourself in order to take one for the team?

    I believe in small-cell communities and *very* local level working together. Outside of my community beliefs, state and federal, are not welcome in my home.

    Individual Rights should be paramount, which is completely repugnant in any/all governmental institution.
    I asked that question because I understand that's Libya worked before Gaddafi was murdered. Tribal, basically. Even on the smallest scale, though, people sometimes have to agreement, right? Would you say that in a small cell that if there isn't 100% agreement on something that it would not be done so as not to impinge upon the rights of the person not agreement?
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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    I asked that question because I understand that's Libya worked before Gaddafi was murdered. Tribal, basically. Even on the smallest scale, though, people sometimes have to agreement, right? Would you say that in a small cell that if there isn't 100% agreement on something that it would not be done so as not to impinge upon the rights of the person not agreement?
    That's a tough one to answer, it would depend on the people in whatever situation.

    Years ago when I bought my land and built my home, the neighbor behind me had a barbed-wire fence 50 feet over my property line (he had a horse ranch). I had my property re-surveyed, and of course it belonged to me, but the neighbor behind me said that since his fence had been there for a number of years he was able to take stake of that land. It got to the point that I was tired of arguing with him, so I simply rolled up the barbed-wire, removed the poles, and neatly placed it on his property. He called the cops, they came over, and when I showed the survey to them, cops told me that I could press harassment charges if the neighbor continued to give me flack. I am not one to ever call cops, or press charges over something that stupid, so after time he quit yapping about it. My other neighbors are cool as hell, we get along great and always work things out.
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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    That's a tough one to answer, it would depend on the people in whatever situation.

    Years ago when I bought my land and built my home, the neighbor behind me had a barbed-wire fence 50 feet over my property line (he had a horse ranch). I had my property re-surveyed, and of course it belonged to me, but the neighbor behind me said that since his fence had been there for a number of years he was able to take stake of that land. It got to the point that I was tired of arguing with him, so I simply rolled up the barbed-wire, removed the poles, and neatly placed it on his property. He called the cops, they came over, and when I showed the survey to them, cops told me that I could press harassment charges if the neighbor continued to give me flack. I am not one to ever call cops, or press charges over something that stupid, so after time he quit yapping about it. My other neighbors are cool as hell, we get along great and always work things out.
    I can see, in a small arrangement, where 100% agreement could be the rule when it came to a decision that impacted everyone in the community. Something like putting in a road or hiring some work done.
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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    I can see, in a small arrangement, where 100% agreement could be the rule when it came to a decision that impacted everyone in the community. Something like putting in a road or hiring some work done.
    I used to hire immigrants to help with heavy landscaping and such, but it seems I'm not allowed to do that anymore. Now it cost me an arm and a leg and they are without work! So much for freedom
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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I used to hire immigrants to help with heavy landscaping and such, but it seems I'm not allowed to do that anymore. Now it cost me an arm and a leg and they are without work! So much for freedom
    Who's stopping you from hiring them?
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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    He's not an anarchist ;-)
    But Massie, on the other hand ...
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  25. #51
    I would like to think that this is good news. I'm tired of Heritage Americans being replaced. However, it will probably end up being some other non-Heritage American. Trump just can't help himself from being a Boomer.

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    Did I hear a familydog whistle?

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Who's stopping you from hiring them?
    You, @Anti Federalist and @Swordsmyth? lol

    In all seriousness, I don't care who does the work, immigrant or not, as long the work gets done and the right way. But more than not, the young, white American's feel entitled, and when I stopped to offer jobs to them they have flat out refused (what??? you want me to work???). I don't want to make blanket statements, but I have kind of noticed that there is an increase in 20+ year old male voices sounding much higher today [more feminine?] than from years ago. I'm not sure what to attribute that to, I have heard several theories.
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  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I don't want to make blanket statements, but I have kind of noticed that there is an increase in 20+ year old male voices sounding much higher today [more feminine?] than from years ago. I'm not sure what to attribute that to, I have heard several theories.
    It's a matter of fact: men's testosterone and sperm counts have dropped precipitously, and it seems only in the West.

    There is something in the air, food, water, vaccines, drugs, plastics...something is causing men to become fairies and women to become fat and butch.

    It's not your imagination.

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    It's a matter of fact: men's testosterone and sperm counts have dropped precipitously, and it seems only in the West.

    There is something in the air, food, water, vaccines, drugs, plastics...something is causing men to become fairies and women to become fat and butch.

    It's not your imagination.
    Good to know, at least I'm not the only one recognizing that.

    Now what do I do to obtain hard workers for a good buck. Entitled Americans with high pitched voices refuse to work (they're too pretty), immigrants are not welcome. Got a solution, AF?
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  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Good to know, at least I'm not the only one recognizing that.

    Now what do I do to obtain hard workers for a good buck. Entitled Americans with high pitched voices refuse to work (they're too pretty), immigrants are not welcome. Got a solution, AF?
    Robot Overlords.
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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Robot Overlords.
    Well, at that point, maybe Bill Gates, along with his bid to own all farm land, will offer me premium buck before my property goes to sh|t.

    Got a carboard box that I can squat in? lol
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  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    You, @Anti Federalist and @Swordsmyth? lol

    In all seriousness, I don't care who does the work, immigrant or not, as long the work gets done and the right way. But more than not, the young, white American's feel entitled, and when I stopped to offer jobs to them they have flat out refused (what??? you want me to work???). I don't want to make blanket statements, but I have kind of noticed that there is an increase in 20+ year old male voices sounding much higher today [more feminine?] than from years ago. I'm not sure what to attribute that to, I have heard several theories.
    Nah, not I. I don't object to hiring anyone you want to. My objections are to socially engineered mass movements of populations being used to crash the country, Cloward Piven style.
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  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    You, @Anti Federalist and @Swordsmyth? lol

    In all seriousness, I don't care who does the work, immigrant or not, as long the work gets done and the right way. But more than not, the young, white American's feel entitled, and when I stopped to offer jobs to them they have flat out refused (what??? you want me to work???). I don't want to make blanket statements, but I have kind of noticed that there is an increase in 20+ year old male voices sounding much higher today [more feminine?] than from years ago. I'm not sure what to attribute that to, I have heard several theories.
    Spare us the same old "Jobs Americans won't do" lie.
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