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    Yeah, I know where you're stuck at. Theye're counting on that.



    Good luck with that in this day and age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    He knows that he can do whatever he wants. And more importantly, TPTB know that they can get whatever they want, through him.

    —Which is why I still just can't quite buy into the notion that the big plan is to get Trump re-elected. That's 'going around your a** to get to your elbow.'
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    This is getting silly.
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    He knows that he can do whatever he wants.

    —Which is why I still just can't quite buy into the notion that the big plan is to get Trump re-elected. That's 'going around your a** to get to your elbow.'
    But I said the plan was to obviously steal the election for Biden again, then use the backlash to install Trump dictator.

    So, who's trying to sell you the notion that their plan is for Trump to be declared the "winner" of the "election"?

    In order for this plan to work, Biden must be about as popular as a bag of coughed up hairballs when he's declared the "winner" of another "election".

    They want us to think we threw the big babies of the Deep State out with Bathwater Biden. But the big babies of the Deep State will still be with us, because Trump is just fresh bathwater.

    They'll probably shoot Biden dead live on national teevee just to convince you. But but but Biden's a loyal lackey and they wouldn't blah blah blah!! They're psychopaths, eugenicists and humanists who worship only their own brains. They just "culled the herd" of millions of souls. They're telling each other it's a mercy killing of a guy whose brain is failing, so he obviously can't be happy any more. Oh, they don't want to make their other loyal lackeys nervous. So it'll obviously be quick and painless. Wait and see.

    I know you don't want to try to think the way these creatures do. It's not a fun activity, believe me. But somebody has to, or we'll never escape the trap they have all set for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    And more importantly, TPTB know that they can get whatever they want, through him.
    What they want is the Constitution tossed in the dustbin history. Trump and Pelosi almost pulled that off, but Massie foiled the plan. Biden isn't getting that done.

    Ask yourself this: Biden's just a lackey, right? And Hilldog Clinton is a bona fide deep state mover and shaker, right? What's more, of all the deep state club members, she's the most vain, and seems to love the spotlight the most, right? So when they stole 2020, why didn't they steal it for her? Why did they install this semi-conscious lackey fossil instead?

    Do you think she'd volunteer to play a role that involves her convincing everyone she's stupid and incompetent, then getting shot without a stunt double?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What they want is the Constitution tossed in the dustbin history. Trump and Pelosi almost pulled that off, but Massie foiled the plan.
    When did that happen? I missed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    How they'll set Trump up to be be installed as dictator...



    J6.2.0 this time with Marines.
    I am a big fan of conspiracy theories. This theory you hold so tightly really seems stupid to me. I guess you can't let it go because you one day want to be able to say "I told you so!" regardless of any and all evidence to the contrary.

    Every time I see a clip of some moron at CNN or MSNBC pushing the Dictator™ theory I am left to wonder, is the reason we haven't had a dictator ruling over us so far is just because all the other guys were to nice to invoke the Dictator Clause in the Constitution?

    Could Biden just declare himself to be Dictator™ right now and just rule over us until he dies?

    When the President does become Dictator™ do we still have to pay the legislative and judicial branches?

    If Trump wants to be Dictator™ do we really need to wait for an election or can't he just declare it before Biden does and win automatically?

    I have so many question as to how this will work.

    Once we have a Dictator™ can we create Constitution 2.0?
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    I have so many question as to how this will work.
    Your neighbors will demand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What they want is the Constitution tossed in the dustbin history. Trump and Pelosi almost pulled that off, but Massie foiled the plan. Biden isn't getting that done.

    Ask yourself this: Biden's just a lackey, right? And Hilldog Clinton is a bona fide deep state mover and shaker, right? What's more, of all the deep state club members, she's the most vain, and seems to love the spotlight the most, right? So when they stole 2020, why didn't they steal it for her? Why did they install this semi-conscious lackey fossil instead?

    Do you think she'd volunteer to play a role that involves her convincing everyone she's stupid and incompetent, then getting shot without a stunt double?
    Well, the basis of your argument rests on your belief that they somehow didn't want Hillary, rather than underestimating Trump. If that's the foundation that you've established for your theory, then yes, I could see how it seems illogical.

    If you noticed, they made all the necessary preparations to ensure that every 'swing' state was within reach (with a little number-fudging) simultaneously in 2020. Only problem was, they didn't have Hillary that time around. They had Biden. Oh well, he had to do. Trump wouldn't be underestimated again, this time they would have insurance.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Your neighbors will demand it.
    Finally, a government that is responsive to the citizens!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Well, the basis of your argument rests on your belief that they somehow didn't want Hillary, rather than underestimating Trump. If that's the foundation that you've established for your theory, then yes, I could see how it seems illogical.

    If you noticed, they made all the necessary preparations to ensure that every 'swing' state was within reach (with a little number-fudging) simultaneously in 2020. Only problem was, they didn't have Hillary that time around. They had Biden. Oh well, he had to do. Trump wouldn't be underestimated again, this time they would have insurance.
    Do you think Biden was a worse candidate than Hillary?
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Well, the basis of your argument rests on your belief that they somehow didn't want Hillary, rather than underestimating Trump. If that's the foundation that you've established for your theory, then yes, I could see how it seems illogical.
    Lord.

    Yes, they have egos. But they're a lot more interested in totalitarianism than in who "gets to" play what role in this soap opera.

    You don't get it. I'll never understand how people can say, yes, the president's a puppet, but still be unable to picture in their minds the Almighty President getting and obeying instructions. Biden's helping a little because he's struggling so hard at this point he's literally reading the stage directions on the teleprompter out loud instead of doing them. Even so, people can't picture him as what he is -- a glorified game show host.

    But nobody can wrap their minds around the fact that Trump doing the same thing, only doing it competently.

    Come on, people. Daddy Bush ran the CIA. The Clintons were governor of the state that the CIA ran their drug pipeline through. Biden was never all that, but at least he's enough of a politician to consider the presidency a thing to die for, now that he's dying of brain rot anyway. Trump's a $#@!ing hotelier. You really think choosing John Bolton was his own idea?

    I'm not calling him a useful idiot. Quite the contrary. I freely admit that a narcissist that good at creating, playing and promoting this persona of his is no moron. So he's not a useful idiot. He's a useful narcissist. That's not an easy thing to be. But he's still just playing a role for people with real connections. His fans just know he doesn't have a small army of Loyal Suiciders at his beck and call like the Clintons do. And I'm sure he doesn't. But how can you people say, he's scared of the hit men! to excuse his failures and still think he is allowed any real latitude?

    I don't know. There's a great scene in the book where Tom Sawyer goes to see a Senator and can't figure out why he's not twenty-five feet tall. Twain had us down.
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    Reagan was the last politician to worm his way into the presidency by winning the voters. Ever hear Jim Garner talk about the idiot's stint as president of the Screen Actor's Guild? He just acted presidential, everyone said yeah he's a good figurehead and cribbed him the answers. Then he'd do the Jean-Luc Picard and said Make It So.

    GHWB took Reagan under his wing and kept him out of trouble. Of course he got him in "trouble", but answering to the voters for Iran-Contra was nothing compared to answering to the CIA for preventing it.

    Then we had Bush, then Clinton, then a little nepotism in the form of Bush's idiot child. Then came the token halfblack. At that point we started working at helping Ron Paul educate people. That had to be nipped in the bud.

    The "Defenders of Democracy" are sick of democracy. They want it gone, and this plan (give or take however many details I have wrong) is how they're about to make that happen.

    Give Republicans somebody charismatic playing the strong man. Take him away from them by means of an obvious theft designed to make Republicans give up on elections altogether. Install a useful idiot (he was something of a mover and shaker for a long while, so he's credible, but he's senile now) and use his administration to piss Republicans off in every way imaginable.

    And now? Steal another election. Enjoy watching the riots for a while. March Trump into the Capitol and install him for life. Publicly put Biden out of his (and our) misery in a very public way. Start exterminating these imported criminals and whomever is unlucky enough to be nearby at the time. Take the cash, replace it with a CBDC run by the same thieves who are destroying the dollar. Make things better until Republicans get apathetic again, and then...

    And then what? Nothing you really want your grandchildren to deal with, certainly.

    We forced their hand and we're the only ones smart enough to stop them. But we're running out of time to open our eyes.
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    Finally, a government that is responsive to the citizens!
    It always is, once it tells them what to want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Reagan was the last politician to worm his way into the presidency by winning the voters. Ever hear Jim Garner talk about the idiot's stint as president of the Screen Actor's Guild? He just acted presidential, everyone said yeah he's a good figurehead and cribbed him the answers. Then he'd do the Jean-Luc Picard and said Make It So.

    GHWB took Reagan under his wing and kept him out of trouble. Of course he got him in "trouble", but answering to the voters for Iran-Contra was nothing compared to answering to the CIA for preventing it.

    Then we had Bush, then Clinton, then a little nepotism in the form of Bush's idiot child. Then came the token halfblack. At that point we started working at helping Ron Paul educate people. That had to be nipped in the bud.

    The "Defenders of Democracy" are sick of democracy. They want it gone, and this plan (give or take however many details I have wrong) is how they're about to make that happen.

    Give Republicans somebody charismatic playing the strong man. Take him away from them by means of an obvious theft designed to make Republicans give up on elections altogether. Install a useful idiot (he was something of a mover and shaker for a long while, so he's credible, but he's senile now) and use his administration to piss Republicans off in every way imaginable.

    And now? Steal another election. Enjoy watching the riots for a while. March Trump into the Capitol and install him for life. Publicly put Biden out of his (and our) misery in a very public way. Start exterminating these imported criminals and whomever is unlucky enough to be nearby at the time. Take the cash, replace it with a CBDC run by the same thieves who are destroying the dollar. Make things better until Republicans get apathetic again, and then...

    And then what? Nothing you really want your grandchildren to deal with, certainly.

    We forced their hand and we're the only ones smart enough to stop them. But we're running out of time to open our eyes.
    Reagan was more than a mere actor.

    Ronald Reagan was the 33rd governor of California for two terms, the first beginning in 1967 and the second in 1971. He left office in 1975, declining to run for a third term.



    Unfortunately his dementia and choosing to ally with Bush was a major problem.
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    Reagan was more than a mere actor.
    Sure. He could play an audience in a way that is quite different from delivering lines from a script. He wasn't a good enough actor to do what he did by taking direction. There have been a lot like him since television was invented, but very, very few have been even half as talented. He was what they call "A Natural". But even before then, politicians were chosen more for that talent than for real ability.

    That's something very different from acting. Reagan was no actor at all. His looks and his schtick got him star status in movies, but he was no actor. Jimmy Stewart was a fine actor, and during Reagan's second term, more than a few Republicans were enthused by the idea of "casting" Stewart in that role. But Jimmy Stewart knew his limitations. He was just an actor. He knew he couldn't do what Reagan was doing.

    And yes, in those simpler times the State of California could indeed be "run" in much the same way he "ran" the Screen Actor's Guild. Bring me solutions and let me say, "Make it so."

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    Unfortunately his dementia and choosing to ally with Bush was a major problem.
    Choosing?

    Yeah, okay, I'll make you my running mate to get you people off my back, but I'm the boss, not you.

    *Hinckley inserts a .22 round in amongst his ribs*

    I'm your Huckleberry.

    Trump's smarter than Reagan was. He's already their Huckleberry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Sure. He could play an audience in a way that is quite different from delivering lines from a script. He wasn't a good enough actor to do what he did by taking direction. There have been a lot like him since television was invented, but very, very few have been even half as talented. He was what they call "A Natural". But even before then, politicians were chosen more for that talent than for real ability.

    That's something very different from acting. Reagan was no actor at all. His looks and his schtick got him star status in movies, but he was no actor. Jimmy Stewart was a fine actor, and during Reagan's second term, more than a few Republicans were enthused by the idea of "casting" Stewart in that role. But Jimmy Stewart knew his limitations. He was just an actor. He knew he couldn't do what Reagan was doing.

    And yes, in those simpler times the State of California could indeed be "run" in much the same way he "ran" the Screen Actor's Guild. Bring me solutions and let me say, "Make it so."



    Choosing?

    Yeah, okay, I'll make you my running mate to get you people off my back, but I'm the boss, not you.

    *Hinckley inserts a .22 round in amongst his ribs*

    I'm your Huckleberry.

    Trump's smarter than Reagan was. He's already their Huckleberry.
    My conspiracy theory with Reagan is that once he got shot, he agreed to play ball with Bush and his cronies.

    I think Reagan was a mixed bag of good and bad. I think we could accuse all politicians, even Ron Paul, of being actors to some degree. How does one judge if the candidate is making decisions after getting thoughts from their advisors or if they are just a puppet?
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    There are ways to find out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Variety re: James Garner's memoir
    “Too many actors have run for office,” he writes. “There’s one difference between me and them: I know I’m not qualified. In my opinion, Arnold Schwarzenegger wasn’t qualified to be governor of California. Ronald Reagan wasn’t qualified to be governor, let alone president. I was a vice president of the Screen Actors Guild when he was its president. My duties consisted of attending meetings and voting. The only thing I remember is that Ronnie never had an original thought and that we had to tell him what to say. That’s no way to run a union, let along a state or a country.”

    Garner writes that he was asked to run for Congress in 1962 as a Republican, and “it didn’t stop them when I told them I was a Democrat. …They just thought I could win.” In 1990, Democratic leaders approached him about running for governor of California, but the discussion got to the issue of abortion and Garner says he answered, “I don’t have an opinion, because that’s up to the woman. It has nothing to do with me.” The conversation pretty much stopped there.
    https://variety.com/2011/biz/opinion...-office-37170/

    And there are ways to figure out which are deep state movers and shakers. Like the snapshot of Bush and Clinton sitting on bales of CIA drugs on the tarmac, smiling and laughing. And the fact that Hinckley was a mentally deficient childhood friend of Dubya. And Hillary's list of suicided associates.

    In the television age, they've become the exceptions. Most of the lizards prefer to stay out of the spotlight, like roaches.
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    I disagree with the idea that an actor isn't qualified to be a part of a representative government. We largely have a group of professional politicians here that have little to no experience in the working work and the results of their running the government are piss poor in my opinion. I would argue that we would all be better off if D.C. was filled with plumbers, waitresses, truck drivers, and even actors. This method of governing by dual citizen lawyers is not impressive to me.

    The Constitution isn't that difficult to understand and uphold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I disagree with the idea that an actor isn't qualified to be a part of a representative government.
    James Garner's opinion, not mine. And most of them would be piss poor, and/or mere puppets. Garner might have been an exception. But as a hophead and a cynic, a man who could act and loved the work, I think it's pretty clear that he didn't want the job. At all. For one thing, being a celebrity was his least favorite part of acting.

    But, yes, the system was designed to be run by real people who know what it means to work for a living, not sociopaths who look good on TV and just adore fundraising. We need that. But I don't know how we can have it, unless there's a major paradigm shift right down in our grass roots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What they want is the Constitution tossed in the dustbin history. Trump and Pelosi almost pulled that off, but Massie foiled the plan. Biden isn't getting that done.

    Ask yourself this: Biden's just a lackey, right? And Hilldog Clinton is a bona fide deep state mover and shaker, right? What's more, of all the deep state club members, she's the most vain, and seems to love the spotlight the most, right? So when they stole 2020, why didn't they steal it for her? Why did they install this semi-conscious lackey fossil instead?

    Do you think she'd volunteer to play a role that involves her convincing everyone she's stupid and incompetent, then getting shot without a stunt double?
    Because the Deep State needed to usher in Covid lockdowns and Operation Warp Speed and Trump was the only one that would be able to get away with it. Under a Cliinton administration, the plan would have to be scrapped and they would instead start a conflict with Russia to usher in WW3. In fact, I'm fairly confident Covid would have never even made the news 4 years ago if she were president. With Trump at the helm, the plan is a lot more easier to implement. It also means Clinton gets to avoid any blame whatsoever for the medical fallout the Covid vaccines have caused.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Because the Deep State needed to usher in Covid lockdowns and Operation Warp Speed and Trump was the only one that would be able to get away with it.
    Sounds right to me. But you're talking about 2016, and what you quoted was about 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Because the Deep State needed to usher in Covid lockdowns and Operation Warp Speed and Trump was the only one that would be able to get away with it. Under a Cliinton administration, the plan would have to be scrapped and they would instead start a conflict with Russia to usher in WW3. In fact, I'm fairly confident Covid would have never even made the news 4 years ago if she were president. With Trump at the helm, the plan is a lot more easier to implement. It also means Clinton gets to avoid any blame whatsoever for the medical fallout the Covid vaccines have caused.
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Sounds right to me. But you're talking about 2016, and what you quoted was about 2020.
    LOL

    Trump resisted, and nothing would have stopped Hitlery from doing any of it with enthusiasm, it all would have been much more aggressive.
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    Trump resisted...
    What this guy said:

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    LOL
    Wasn't exactly a yuge resistance, was it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
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    That theory by Massie is total bunk.
    If they had wanted to do that they would have done it.
    And him trying to stop the bill from passing would only have helped them with it by "proving" that the Congress was unable to function in the "emergency".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    If they had wanted to do that they would have done it.
    If they had done it, but not by the book, they'd have faced a backlash. Just because you'd have licked their boots doesn't mean men would have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Do you think Biden was a worse candidate than Hillary?
    I think if Hillary had won, we'd be in a hot war with Russia.

    Actually, the war would be over by now, and we wouldn't be having this conversation, because we'd all be glowing puddles of radioactive goo.

    Having said that, they seem to be doing everything they can do to provoke the bear, even under Biden. But . . . I can't exactly blame Biden for what's going on now, given his mental state. He is the epitome of a puppet. For all we know, Hillary is pulling the strings.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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