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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    I'd say it's kind of difficult to exclude everyone who's tied in with government.

    Most are bad but not all.

    Although Trump's party could be the Swamp Party.

    He packed his administration with lobbyists and industry insiders.



    I wonder how often Trump would have gone bankrupt if it weren't for them. Half a dozen times? A dozen?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He's lying about the things he sounds good on and is worse than Biden on most other things.
    As usual, SS turns every thread into a thread about Trump.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbnevin View Post
    Imagine you have a bunch of puppets. What usefulness has the RFK puppet? To be a model for what the Dems will become, rather than what they are.
    Better still, he's a model of what Democrats once were, before their own arrogance was used to brainwash way, way too many of them into hypocrisy.

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    Oh good, another new party. I wonder which states they're going to get on the ballot for.

    Any guesses?
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    The 2nd is a red line for me.

    Just wondering if he's any worse than Bump Stock/"Take the Guns First" Trump.
    How about "Lose your guns if a bureaucrat puts you on the No Fly List"?
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    I'd say it's kind of difficult to exclude everyone who's tied in with government.

    Most are bad but not all.

    Although Trump's party could be the Swamp Party.

    He packed his administration with lobbyists and industry insiders.



    Nothing like having the CIA run your campaign.
    And do you really believe a Kennedy will do any better with his administration?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And do you really believe a Kennedy will do any better with his administration?
    I really know for a fact that he won't do any worse.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I really know for a fact that he won't do any worse.
    LOL
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  11. #39
    Every election is a psy-op nobody is going to become president who will not bend to tptb in some way. I think more people are starting to understand this. I pray for the people of this earth. I trust God above all. I don't trust any politician. How could I? Do you? Really? @ Swordsmyth

    Try to be logical and think about what is best for you, your family and, community. This would be a good year to vote none of the above.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    Every election is a psy-op nobody is going to become president who will not bend to tptb in some way.
    Or, at least, none have for nearly a hundred years. But it could happen, if people get mad enough. Unfortunately, first they have to coalesce around someone other than a proven tool, and the Great Psyop Machine is awfully good at selling those.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    He wants to raise your taxes and take your guns. No thanks.

    Just because he is good on some things, doesn't mean he is good on most things. I do like the guy, but I would never vote for him.
    This. +1 Matt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Dude's pitting himself against the entire establishment and you think he'll be able to do everything he ever wanted to do?

    Goofy.

    Just because I don't like tyranny doesn't mean I'm throwing tea in the harbor. It's unseemly.
    RFK is just a CIA plant of controlled opposition meant to suck in the anti-establishment fools. Its all part of the plan from the Masters of the Universeô.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    RFK is just a CIA plant of controlled opposition meant to suck in the anti-establishment fools. Its all part of the plan from the Masters of the Universeô.
    If I were Casting Director for this psyop, I'd cast Trump in that role. He can make a speech in something more than just a hoarse whisper.

    Just sayin'...

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Wouldn't it be nice if he answered the question? He has promise everyone everything disease, just like uncountable numbers of politicians before him, including the two major party candidates.

    Even so, if he is what I think he is it won't much matter. If we can get him the honest vote that buys him the electors he needs, the $#@! will hit the fan by Veterans Day. January will be a different world. If he lives to get inaugurated, who knows what resources will be available, if any?
    How can he admire Milei while having all of these plans for what he thinks is good massive spending?
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Careful and thinking isnt what people find appealing about trump ( yes he sucks at that), he is America first and no dems, including kennedys are. Simple as that. Anyone supporting green subsidies on taxpayer dime is the enemy of the avg american citizen.Anyone making oil drilling , refining or fuel use difficult is the enemy . Most americans are stupid and half the country are lazy , worthless commies who do not comprehend energy or economy.Those are the dem voter base.
    Amen. Energy (the utilities kind) is required for civilization. It's that $#@!ing simple. I am in favor of conventional energy corps making big changes but I mean R&D on better tech to extract that energy with lower impact on the environment. First their own greed prevented it and now the green retards have done it. Probably trillions pissed away. I also think energy extracted in the US should stay in the US so we have the cheapest energy possible.
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Better still, he's a model of what Democrats once were, before their own arrogance was used to brainwash way, way too many of them into hypocrisy.
    What Democraps once were is what, exactly? Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Carter? Federal Reserve, WWI, WWII, Vietnam, The Great Society, whatever Carter did (wage & price controls, giving away the Panama Canal) isn't a good history.

    I fully get where you're coming from with your feelings about Trump - even though I voted for him. There's nobody running who doesn't have serious drawbacks and that's awful. I really think we're $#@!ed as a country because it's been circling the drain for way too long to bring it back. You notice none of these candidates says anything about simply following the constitution and getting rid of the administrative state?
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    If I were Casting Director for this psyop, I'd cast Trump in that role. He can make a speech in something more than just a hoarse whisper.

    Just sayin'...
    That's why they did everything to destroy him since he got elected, and why he frustrated so many of their operations.

    Right.
    Sure.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That's why they did everything to destroy him since he got elected, and why he frustrated so many of their operations.

    Right.
    Sure.


    Only problem is, some people still bet their hard earned money on WWE matches.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post


    Only problem is, some people still bet their hard earned money on WWE matches.
    That's a nice cope.
    But it runs afoul of two problems.
    1 Trump's real world results show this isn't a fake fight.
    2 RFK has to deal with that question too and he adds up much more likely to be fake, considering the CIA is actually running his campaign.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    1 Trump's real world results show this isn't a fake fight.
    True.

    And shows which side Trump's on, too, with all the turbo cancer running around at warp speed.

    But then, some people are perfectly willing to dismiss culpability as 3D Grand Master Stupidity, Gullibility and Ineffectualness. And what's more, they think stupidity, gullibility and ineffectualness are selling points.

    With voters like these, what nation ever needed enemies?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 03-02-2024 at 04:07 PM.

  25. #51
    They can trust Trump to keep covering up JFK Assassination and 9/11.

    RFK? No way in hell.
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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    They can trust Trump to keep covering up JFK Assassination and 9/11.

    RFK? No way in hell.
    LOL

    Did his CIA campaign manager tell you that?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL

    Did his CIA campaign manager tell you that?
    Nobody had to tell him $#@!. He saw Trump fail to do it for four years. He saw RFKJr tell the truth on the Liberty Report.

    Some people have eyes that don't lie to them. They don't have to go to someone like Zerohedge to find out what lies their eyes are "supposed to be telling" them.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 03-03-2024 at 04:24 AM.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL

    Did his CIA campaign manager tell you that?
    Amaryllis Fox Kennedy's work with the CIA was limited to a particular role. She wrote a book about it.
    Fox Kennedy has not worked with the CIA since 2010.
    https://www.menshealth.com/entertain...ness-of-drugs/

    She's also RFK's Daughter-In-Law, and a much more efficient campaign manager than Dennis Kucinich was.

    Trump, he promised to release the files, then backtracked. He told Napolitano that he couldn't release them, and "if you saw what I saw", "you wouldn't release them, either". Additionally, we know Trump knows a LOT about 911 but he did NOTHING to put forward 911 truth.

    You can argue a Trump second term is in our better interest for Potus than RFK Jr. if you want to do that. It is at least a tenable position.

    What you can't argue is that a Trump second term would be more likely to share conspiracy truths with the public than RFK Jr.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    What you can't argue is...
    That all depends on how utterly shameless you are. And/or how tenable a defense you consider stupidity to be (and we've all seen that Trump the Chessmaster's stupidity is his defense for anything and everything, including millions of deaths).

  30. #56
    Democrat party has no chance in this election. Might be done. Whatever party RFK starts *should* attract any reasonably sane liberals who cannot stomach conservatism. Trump has rightly won over all Republicanites many independents, many disaffected, many neutral unaware / otherwise non-political, and many libertarians. Principles over personalities, proof is in the puddin'

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    That all depends on how utterly shameless you are. And/or how tenable a defense you consider stupidity to be (and we've all seen that Trump the Chessmaster's stupidity is his defense for anything and everything, including millions of deaths).
    I think the millions of deaths are more the responsibility of the people who manufactured, distributed, injected, chose to receive. Next up would be those who recommended with credentials, which would not include Trump strictly, but considering appeal from authority, would. Next up would be those who recommended without credentials, which is where Trump is. Then, on what platform was the recommendation made, how much culpability would that recommendation have?

    Not near as much as the Ad Council. Not near as much as FOX news. Not near as much as all major newspapers and television stations.

    I don't think Trump is criminally culpable. I think Fauci and Pfizer are. I think Trump owes an explanation, and I doubt we'll ever get it. But I have not seen data on how many batches of each of the many versions of the vaccine and its boosters were sent where and what deaths they cause. We saw that the COVID nothing could be turned into a worldwide fear through sheer propaganda, I'm not prepared to ascribe all 'COVID deaths' to lack of treatment, to a specific treatment, or even to the virus - much less Trump.
    Last edited by jbnevin; 03-03-2024 at 08:20 PM.



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Amaryllis Fox Kennedy's work with the CIA was limited to a particular role. She wrote a book about it.
    Fox Kennedy has not worked with the CIA since 2010.
    https://www.menshealth.com/entertain...ness-of-drugs/

    She's also RFK's Daughter-In-Law, and a much more efficient campaign manager than Dennis Kucinich was.

    Trump, he promised to release the files, then backtracked. He told Napolitano that he couldn't release them, and "if you saw what I saw", "you wouldn't release them, either". Additionally, we know Trump knows a LOT about 911 but he did NOTHING to put forward 911 truth.

    You can argue a Trump second term is in our better interest for Potus than RFK Jr. if you want to do that. It is at least a tenable position.

    What you can't argue is that a Trump second term would be more likely to share conspiracy truths with the public than RFK Jr.
    Another one who believes there is such a thing as an EX CIA operative, cute.
    Trump has a very personal reason to expose everything and take down the intelligence agencies trying to destroy him, RFK is a step removed from his and has a very personal reason not to. (his daughter in law who loves the agency)
    Trump's second term is not going to be as hamstrung as his first.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by jbnevin View Post
    We saw that the COVID nothing could be turned into a worldwide fear through sheer propaganda, I'm not prepared to ascribe all 'COVID deaths' to lack of treatment, to a specific treatment, or even to the virus - much less Trump.
    The mRNA experiment wasn't a treatment for covid. It was purported to be a preventative, but clearly wasn't. And Trump pushed the funding through. Making it possible through financing involves culpability, yes.

    I wasn't talking about covid deaths. The common cold doesn't kill that many people. I'm talking about what happens when Bill Gates is allowed to play God and rewrite our DNA. On our dime.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Another one who believes there is such a thing as an EX CIA operative, cute.
    Feel the same way about the NSA? Pray, do tell us all about how Snowden's serving some deep state purpose too...

    Your everlasting love and worship of government and power is once again ascribing a supernatural competence to it. You should learn to give unto Caesar what is of Caesar, and unto only God what is of God.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 03-04-2024 at 06:23 AM.

  34. #59
    I'm not going to begrude anyone who supports Trump OR Kennedy at this point.

    The Democrats have to GO.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post

    Feel the same way about the NSA? Pray, do tell us all about how Snowden's serving some deep state purpose too...
    Snowden was part of infighting between the CIA and NSA, that's why he was allowed to escape unlike Assange.
    He's probably still working for his masters.

    And you just continue to ignore how much his handler loves the CIA, it's not like her book was a case of whistleblowing.
    If Snowden was 100% pure and no longer works for US Intel you insult him by the comparison.
    Point to where she has done anything like what he did.

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Your everlasting love and worship of government and power is once again ascribing a supernatural competence to it. You should learn to give unto Caesar what is of Caesar, and unto only God what is of God.
    LOL
    Rave on.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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