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    In Russia Tucker Carlson buys a week's worth of groceries for a family that cost $103

    In Moscow, one of the biggest cities in the world.

    In a country under international sanctions.

    And fighting a major war.

    What the $#@! is going on in this country?

    Is anybody ever going to get angry enough to do any $#@!ing thing?

    (And yes, I realize that is utterly rhetorical, please don't bother to point that out)

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1758151845971702217

    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 02-15-2024 at 10:52 AM.
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    https://twitter.com/i/status/1757901280830505037

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    Meanwhile...



    Last edited by CaptUSA; 02-15-2024 at 11:10 AM.
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    american groceries are driven higher by inflation generated by govt printing and giving away unbacked , worthless currency and since that wasnt enough about 42 million people are on the dole of food stamps also driving prices up further. in america you have nearly an entire senate openly working against citizens . Inflation still rising , debt going up 315 million per hour and senate spends time trying to send 85 billion in additional aid to ukraine/israel for money laundering. welcome to the third world. banana republic with no republic and no bananas , just the corruption.
    Last edited by oyarde; 02-15-2024 at 11:18 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    american groceries are driven higher by inflation generated by govt printing and giving away unbacked , worthless currency and since that wasnt enough about 42 million people are on the dole of food stamps also driving prices up further. in america you have nearly an entire senate openly working against citizens . Inflation still rising , debt going up 315 million per hour and senate spends time trying to send 85 billion in additional aid to ukraine/israel for money laundering.
    That and government tomfuckery with diesel engines and diesel fuel that driven the cost of everything up.

    Oh and 2027 will see new mandates that DEF fluid (which is not cheap either) injection rates will double.
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    Not for nothing, but when was the last time Tucker went shopping?

    Quarter carts and cart escalators have been around forever...

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    Tucker better shaddup

    They're gonna do him like they did Alex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    In Moscow, one of the biggest cities in the world.

    In a country under international sanctions.

    And fighting a major war.

    What the $#@! is going on in this country?

    Is anybody ever going to get angry enough to do any $#@!ing thing?

    (And yes, I realize that is utterly rhetorical, please don't bother to point that out)

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1758151845971702217

    Well, it did cost almost 9,500 rubles... we'll get there soon enough in America. $9000 for a week of groceries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1757901280830505037

    Ha!! Love the background music to the station footage... Sounds like a Russian ballet or some such

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    In Moscow, one of the biggest cities in the world.

    In a country under international sanctions.

    And fighting a major war.

    What the $#@! is going on in this country?

    Is anybody ever going to get angry enough to do any $#@!ing thing?

    (And yes, I realize that is utterly rhetorical, please don't bother to point that out)

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1758151845971702217


    $103 is two days' pay for the average person in Russia.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Hard to say what is in the cart. Looked like some cereal, snacks, bread, I didn't see any meat or protein. I don't think that was a weeks worth of groceries for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    $103 is two days' pay for the average person in Russia.
    Moscow is one of the most expensive cities in the world so I'd guess that people there make good money. What people make 1000 miles to the east is probably a lot different and prices are probably lower.

    Current gas price is 2.27 per gallon. Not ultra cheap but not too bad. Their regular looks to be the equivalent of premium in the US.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    $103 is two days' pay for the average person in Russia.
    Average pay per hour in the US is $11.16.

    The estimate of what those groceries would have cost in the US was $400.00

    You would need to work at least four, 8 hour days to buy the same amount.

    35.8 hours to be exact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Moscow is one of the most expensive cities in the world so I'd guess that people there make good money. What people make 1000 miles to the east is probably a lot different and prices are probably lower.

    Current gas price is 2.27 per gallon. Not ultra cheap but not too bad. Their regular looks to be the equivalent of premium in the US.



    The current gasoline price in Russia is RUB 55.23 per liter or USD 0.60 per liter and was updated on 12-Feb-2024. For comparison, the average price of gasoline in the world is USD 1.20 per liter.
    Russia
    Gasoline prices
    Current price 0.60
    Measure USD/Liter
    Last update 2024-02-12
    Data availability from 2014-03-03
    Data frequency Weekly

    https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/R...soline_prices/

    https://fuelprices.ru/en/cfo/moskva
    After doing all the conversions, Russian road diesel costs $2.48 a gallon.

    US diesel fuel costs almost double that at $4.10, plus whatever DEF costs on top of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Not for nothing, but when was the last time Tucker went shopping?

    Quarter carts and cart escalators have been around forever...
    I've only ever seen the "quarter cars" at Aldis, and it's only because of my wife that I've been to an Aldis, so I could have conceivably gone my whole life without encountering such a cart under different circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    In Moscow, one of the biggest cities in the world.

    In a country under international sanctions.

    And fighting a major war.

    What the $#@! is going on in this country?

    Is anybody ever going to get angry enough to do any $#@!ing thing?

    (And yes, I realize that is utterly rhetorical, please don't bother to point that out)

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1758151845971702217


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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Not for nothing, but when was the last time Tucker went shopping?

    Quarter carts and cart escalators have been around forever...
    Where in the US is it common outside of Aldi, a German discount grocer? I doubt Tucker had been to one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    That and government tomfuckery with diesel engines and diesel fuel that driven the cost of everything up.

    Oh and 2027 will see new mandates that DEF fluid (which is not cheap either) injection rates will double.
    Oil on the rise now , only thing keeping food inflation only rising a half percent last month was cheap oil and deisel , it could easily start to get worse.
    Do something Danke

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    Are groceries or the industries that produce them subsidized in Russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    I've only ever seen the "quarter cars" at Aldis, and it's only because of my wife that I've been to an Aldis, so I could have conceivably gone my whole life without encountering such a cart under different circumstances.
    I usually slide by the aldi in Nov and pick up a few hams from some smokehouse in illinois, I hate to fund ill companies but the hams are fantastic, I dole them out to some of my kids / grandkids for the holidays
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Are groceries or the industries that produce them subsidized in Russia?
    Probably not but they also are probably taxed at lower rates
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Probably not but they also are probably taxed at lower rates
    That would make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    After doing all the conversions, Russian road diesel costs $2.48 a gallon.

    US diesel fuel costs almost double that at $4.10, plus whatever DEF costs on top of that.
    I saw deisel over 4 1/2 in Indy on the south end last weekend , went for a steak over by Greenwood
    Do something Danke

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    Hard to take people seriously when they say Russia is hurting from sanctions and their war with Ukraine after seeing this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Hard to take people seriously when they say Russia is hurting from sanctions and their war with Ukraine after seeing this.
    Russia is doing fine. They still are fueling Europe, stopped trading in dollars and have found ways around most sanctions like shipping to 3rd countries first from the US or Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Hard to take people seriously when they say Russia is hurting from sanctions and their war with Ukraine after seeing this.
    Americans are soft , old commie nations by very nature should be accustomed to hardship so they probaly think they are doing well. Most Americans will not fare as well once the economy collapses here.
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    According to your source, that's real wages in 2011 dollars. In current dollars, it would be a lot higher.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The estimate of what those groceries would have cost in the US was $400.00

    You would need to work at least four, 8 hour days to buy the same amount.

    35.8 hours to be exact.
    You're telling me that you think Americans on average work 35.8 hours to earn $400.

    Edit: I just watched the video. I don't know how they came up with $400. It sounded like Tucker just reported some random guesses by himself (who, it's safe to assume doesn't have much experience buying groceries) and other nameless people on his crew whose opinion he allegedly solicited. I highly doubt the groceries I saw there would cost anywhere close to $400.

    2nd Edit: I can't find any other sources that put average Americans' pay as low as anything close to $11/hour, or even $15/hr, which would be about $11/hour in 2011 dollars. Not even if it's just looking at hourly workers. So now I'm wondering what those real wages at your source are based on, and if it's some other year besides 2011. The site doesn't actually say. From the statistics I'm able to find, it looks like median annual wages in the US for all workers is close to 50k now, or just under 1k per week. For an average American, the groceries in Tucker's cart would probably cost about 1 day's pay, maybe less, versus 2 days for the Average Russian.
    Last edited by Invisible Man; 02-16-2024 at 09:10 PM.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Hard to say what is in the cart. Looked like some cereal, snacks, bread, I didn't see any meat or protein. I don't think that was a weeks worth of groceries for me.
    Agreed.

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    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Hard to take people seriously when they say Russia is hurting from sanctions and their war with Ukraine after seeing this.
    So a video like this is all it takes for you to think that?
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    According to your source, that's real wages in 2011 dollars. In current dollars, it would be a lot higher.



    You're telling me that you think Americans on average work 35.8 hours to earn $400.

    Edit: I just watched the video. I don't know how they came up with $400. It sounded like Tucker was just reported some random guesses by himself (who, it's safe to assume doesn't have much experience buying groceries) and other nameless people on his crew whose opinion he allegedly solicited. I highly doubt the groceries I saw there would cost anywhere close to $400.

    2nd Edit: I can't find any other sources that put average Americans' pay as low as anything close to $11/hour, or even $15/hr, which would be about $11/hour in 2011 dollars. Not even if it's just looking at hourly workers. So now I'm wondering what those real wages at your source are based on, and if it's some other year besides 2011. The site doesn't actually say. From the statistics I'm able to find, it looks like median annual wages in the US for all workers is close to 50k now, or just under 1k per week. For an average American, the groceries in Tucker's cart would probably cost about 1 day's pay, maybe less, versus 2 days for the Average Russian.
    National debt clock lists median income in yr 2000 as 31,656 and yr 2024 39,378 , sounds more accurate, 757 per wk, The other seems high at 24 an hr. Service jobs in our crap service economy are going to skew it much lower I'd guess.
    Last edited by oyarde; 02-16-2024 at 10:46 AM.
    Do something Danke

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