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  3. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    People tried to warn you...God knows people tried to warn you about all of this.

    https://twitter.com/jlawrencenc/stat...84330589720614

    If this was simply about NATO expansion there would be no conflict right now. Even without the NATO expansion, this conflict could be happening right now.

    NATO has been on Russia's borders for many years now already. He didn't invade those countries.

    This conflict is far more about issues specific to Ukraine than it is about NATO expansion in a general sense.

    "NATO expansion" is just a narrative that makes sense to western audiences which is why it gets replayed constantly, even by Tucker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    If this was simply about NATO expansion there would be no conflict right now. Even without the NATO expansion, this conflict could be happening right now.

    NATO has been on Russia's borders for many years now already. He didn't invade those countries.

    This conflict is far more about issues specific to Ukraine than it is about NATO expansion in a general sense.

    "NATO expansion" is just a narrative that makes sense to western audiences which is why it gets replayed constantly, even by Tucker.
    What NATO/US govt are doing isnt different what from the Nazis had tried to do with operation barbarossa.

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    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 02-12-2024 at 12:54 AM.
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  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    If this was simply about NATO expansion there would be no conflict right now. Even without the NATO expansion, this conflict could be happening right now.

    NATO has been on Russia's borders for many years now already. He didn't invade those countries.

    This conflict is far more about issues specific to Ukraine than it is about NATO expansion in a general sense.

    "NATO expansion" is just a narrative that makes sense to western audiences which is why it gets replayed constantly, even by Tucker.
    No, that's not right. Europe and the US constantly talked about Ukraine joining NATO after the coup so NATO expansion, into Ukraine, is and was a huge issue for Russia. They will not tolerate it.

    In 2014, Putin said he would never have tolerated NATO in Crimea so he felt they had designs on that territory. I believe he's right because also in 2014, I saw one of those bid things on the .gov site that puts contracts up to bid on and it was for the remodeling of a school in Sevastopol for the US Navy! The date of the contract specs was prior to the coup so even before the govt was overthrown, that was in planning stages. When Russia moved in and secured the peninsula and they had the referendum, the bid was taken down.
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  7. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    No, that's not right. Europe and the US constantly talked about Ukraine joining NATO after the coup so NATO expansion, into Ukraine, is and was a huge issue for Russia. They will not tolerate it.

    In 2014, Putin said he would never have tolerated NATO in Crimea so he felt they had designs on that territory. I believe he's right because also in 2014, I saw one of those bid things on the .gov site that puts contracts up to bid on and it was for the remodeling of a school in Sevastopol for the US Navy! The date of the contract specs was prior to the coup so even before the govt was overthrown, that was in planning stages. When Russia moved in and secured the peninsula and they had the referendum, the bid was taken down.
    You nailed it. In this interview, Putin came as close as he'll ever come to saying on camera why Russia has taken the actions it has taken. It's not complicated when you think about it. Just reverse the situation. Suppose that Russia staged a political coup in Mexico and used CIA color-revolution techniques like Maidan to put Mexico under the control of a Russophile regime. What would the US response be? Well, DC would probably just flip out and start nuking the entire planet, because they're a bunch of maniacs with their fingers on the global-annihilation button, with an ego the size of the Andromeda Galaxy, and the sheer insult of Russia doing that would send them into orbit. But assuming that DC was actually rational (hahahahaha!!), the simplest and most direct response would be to directly undo whatever Russia had done, using essentially the same methods that Russia had used, but with the insuperable advantage of territorial proximity. Since Mexico is our backyard, we could easily and persistently infiltrate the Mexican political establishment using the broad palette of intelligence-agency techniques. Then, when the time was right, we could pull the carpet out from under the alien regime installed by Russia. People keep talking about the Donbass as though it's a "territorial expansion", which is absurd. Nothing has actually changed except that Kiev can't bark orders at the Donbass, and Russia is presumably handling their border security, etc. No, the Donbass is the other jaw of a pincer movement, the other jaw being invisible and, thus, there really isn't evidence of it but I'm sure CIA/NATO feel its effects constantly. If Moscow were to simply hand out bribes in Kiev, like the old days, this would have been ineffective since the Maidan coup gave CIA/NATO hard cover against Russian influence in Kiev. Thus, they had to force Kiev to go in two directions simultaneously, both in Kiev and in Donbass. If Kiev turns its full attention on driving Moscow's soft influence out of Kiev, Their eastern border will move even further west, to the Dnipr. If they turn all their attention on the Donbass, Kiev itself will be seized by a political coup. By forcing Kiev (that is, CIA/NATO) constantly on this dilemma, Moscow has systematically undone the Maidan and what Putin really means by "de-nazification" is making sure that nothing like this can ever happen again. Moscow obviously prefers to achieve this goal in a multi-lateral fashion, sitting down to negotiate a diplomatic agreement. But that is too tall an order for the CIA/NATO ego -- they can't accept that they are being outplayed like novices playing chess against a grandmaster. In 2014, they got the drop on Moscow and delivered a near-knockout blow from ambush. Hyped on the ego-boost from that "success", they've continued to press into the insanity of their failed strategy despite a growing cascade of losses and ever-mounting geopolitical costs. Yes, they "sanctioned" Russia -- the geopolitical equivalent of calling your opponent an ugly goose -- but Russia can deliver insults, too. I'm sure they're served nice and cold, as all revenge ought to be.

    CIA's perennial mistake has been its willingness to cooperate with evil people "for good purposes". You don't cooperate with the Nazis for any purpose, no matter how noble. And when you join forces with the Nazis, expect to reap the whirlwind. Which CIA/NATO have been doing for years now, and only continue falling down the stairs harder and faster...
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  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    No, that's not right. Europe and the US constantly talked about Ukraine joining NATO after the coup so NATO expansion, into Ukraine, is and was a huge issue for Russia. They will not tolerate it.
    Into Ukraine are the key words, however. More specifically, into eastern Ukraine. NATO expansion in general, is not Putin's motivation for this conflict, and even NATO expansion into western Ukraine is not the issue here.

    My point was, and I don't see anything that contradicts it in your post, is that the issues at hand here are very specific to Ukraine. This isn't simply about missile proximity to Moscow or Russia would have invaded Latvia long ago. If someone wants to say "NATO expansion into Ukraine" is a motivation for the conflict, that is a whole lot closer, but even that's not quite accurate:

    If NATO didn't exist, but the conditions in Ukraine were otherwise the same (e.g., Nazi's shelling Donbass), this conflict would have still happened.

    NATO expansion adds context to this conflict but it is not a direct motivation for Putin's invasion.
    Last edited by TheTexan; 02-12-2024 at 10:42 AM.
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  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    People keep talking about the Donbass as though it's a "territorial expansion", which is absurd.
    It's not that absurd. Donbass is after all a declared official part of Russia now.

    While I applaud Putin for his stated goals of the operation, namely upholding the sovereignty of the Donbass region, even I am not so naive to believe that there werent strategic land-grab motivations involved.

    But as long as the territory being land-grabbed is doing so voluntarily, shrug, I see no issue with that.
    Last edited by TheTexan; 02-12-2024 at 10:33 AM.
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  11. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    But as long as the territory being land-grabbed is doing so voluntarily, shrug, I see no issue with that.
    And, technically, it's not a "land-grab" in that case, since a territory has the natural right to belong to a different polity if it wants to (doctrine of secession).

    That Putin is replying to Western insanity with rational moves made in the interests of Russia should not be distressing to anyone. That our political leadership and intelligence agencies sincerely believe that Putin will reply with something other than rational moves made in the interests of Russia should be distressing to everyone. They are either incompetent morons, or delusional schizophrenics, or both. That should be distressing... yet we keep right on re-electing them. We The People have gone into fever-delusions and we are begging for the rudest of all awakenings...
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  12. #130
    ETA - This is really worth a watch.


    https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/st...17841151557943

    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 02-12-2024 at 03:09 PM.
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  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    ETA - This is really worth a watch.


    https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/st...17841151557943

    Nice! I love to see Tucker interacting with people outside of the US and that's he's getting this huge exposure. I know it infuriates the mainstream media whores which is even better. He gave good answers about war and how a country is either making things better or wrecking them. I also like his take on humility and those who know they're not God vs those who think they are - and the globalists DO think they are. George Soros even said it about himself, outright: "I see myself as some kind of a god". He then followed by saying he wondered if he was mad, because madness runs in his family, but had become comfortable with it because he made enough money to do as he wanted.
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  14. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    He then followed by saying he wondered if he was mad, because madness runs in his family, but had become comfortable with it because he made enough money to do as he wanted.
    That certainly explains how "love of money is the root of all evil" works.

    I think the phrase is, "Curiously self-absorbed".

  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    That certainly explains how "love of money is the root of all evil" works.

    I think the phrase is, "Curiously self-absorbed".
    He actually said something akin to that, too. It was along the lines of "I'm not the philanthropist everyone thinks I am" and said it was a facade he created and was comfortable with, along with he was actually very self centered. Unbeknownst to him I guess, he described textbook narcissistic personality disorder. His type (narcs and psychopaths), unfortunately, rise to the top because of an insatiable lust for power, their extreme ambition and no conscience. Now, combine that with the fact that half of the planet are NPCs, another, probably 30% also having some kind of disorder (the minions) and you can see why we are where we are. Life on earth, basically.
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  16. #134
    Moscow needs some diversity.

    https://twitter.com/simonateba/statu...80479700865479


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    Jon Stewart calls Carlson/Putin Interview ‘propaganda’

    Go figure.
    Standard leftist behavior - accuse others of what you are guilty of.
    Apparently he despises Tucker Carlson a whole lot and really, REALLY resents the fact that he interviewed a world leader and doesn't hate Russians.

    I see Stewart is all ready to support WW3. No wonder they put him back on the air. ‘Decent guy’, my ass. Also believes violent, crime-infested, $#@!-covered cities are “the price of freedom”.

    (you can skip to 2:18)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM2h3KnWAWY
    Last edited by Valli6; 02-20-2024 at 09:23 PM.



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  20. #137
    Why has this $#@! crawled out from under whatever rock he was at?
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    What better way to taint and poison the concepts of liberty and freedom in the minds of an addlepated public, than to associate it with the black mayhem and murder in any big city.

    $#@! this guy.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  22. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Go figure.
    Standard leftist behavior - accuse others of what you are guilty of.
    Apparently he despises Tucker Carlson a whole lot and really, REALLY resents the fact that he interviewed a world leader and doesn't hate Russians.

    I see Stewart is all ready to support WW3. No wonder they put him back on the air. ‘Decent guy’, my ass. Also believes violent, crime-infested, $#@!-covered cities are “the price of freedom”.

    (you can skip to 2:18)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM2h3KnWAWY
    Cant say i am not surprised.
    The comments on there is what i expected though which is unfortunate and believe who support alexei navalny once again shows how they know nothing of Russia.

    Expect what they see in the headlines..
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 02-20-2024 at 11:04 PM.

  23. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Go figure.
    Standard leftist behavior - accuse others of what you are guilty of.
    Apparently he despises Tucker Carlson a whole lot and really, REALLY resents the fact that he interviewed a world leader and doesn't hate Russians.

    I see Stewart is all ready to support WW3. No wonder they put him back on the air. ‘Decent guy’, my ass. Also believes violent, crime-infested, $#@!-covered cities are “the price of freedom”.

    (you can skip to 2:18)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM2h3KnWAWY
    The major irony here is that Stewart infers that the only way to do an interview with a world leader would be to attack him the entire time. As if Stewart would talk "truth to power" to Putin and really hammer him (in Russia). That would be "real journalism" in Stewart's opinion.

    So what is Stewart actually doing? The "power" he is attacking is one of the very few remaining journalists willing to actually criticize the real power in the US (and western global plutocracy). A person, who along with a few others, was removed from Fox.

    Real brave there, John Stewart, being a snarky attack dog for the corrupt power elite. So different than every other pundit on mainstream media and entertainment. Very risky Stewart, you may end up getting audited by the IRS, or prosecuted for taking a loan where an asset was not valued according to whatever a government prosecutor pulls out of their ass.

    As for his criticism of Tucker's visit to a grocery store, well, Tucker did kind of leave himself open to criticism on the price. Laughing at how cheap prices may be in foreign nations with lower wages (relative to the US) is not the best look, even if trying to put it in the context of inflation in this nation.
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  24. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post


    What better way to taint and poison the concepts of liberty and freedom in the minds of an addlepated public, than to associate it with the black mayhem and murder in any big city.

    $#@! this guy.
    Crime and filth in subways is freedom, comrade.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  25. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    The Return Of John Stewart | Part Of The Problem 1096
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdV0v2IaK0w
    {Dave Smith | 22 February 2024}

    On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave and Robbie take a look at John Stewarts first episode back on The Daily Show, and his take down of Tucker Carlson. We then hear from Nancy Pelosi on her thoughts on Donald Trump and the decision against him, and finally we watch Morning Joe have a meltdown about China and Taiwan.

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  26. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Crime and filth in subways is freedom, comrade.
    Yep. Of course, comrade. It is definitely not because of decadence, entitlement or weak moral character. No! Absolutely not!

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