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    Javier Milei, Libertarian Anarcho-Capitalist

    By Walter E. Block and Frank J. Tipler
    January 29, 2024


    Javier Milei, a libertarian anarcho-capitalist, has just been elected President of Argentina.

    What is that all about? What kind of political economic philosophy is libertarian anarcho-capitalism? The non-cognoscenti may need a road map. Let us break this down into three parts.

    First libertarianism. What is that? It is a theory of just law. One foundation is the Non-Aggression Principle (NAP): it would be a crime to initiate violence against anyone or his property. Thus, justified aspects of the law would prohibit murder, rape, theft, arson, kidnapping, fraud, etc. But we need a theory of justice in property to determine whether or not a forced transfer of goods is justified or not. It is if the act is one of returning stolen property, otherwise it is illicit. How, then, to determine justice in property rights? We start off with the primordial basic premise that we all own ourselves; we are self-owners. Then, when we mix our labor with the land, homestead it a la John Locke, we become its rightful owners. Property titles are just, also, if they are predicated upon any voluntary interaction. John clears some virgin land and grows corn on it. Peter domesticates a cow and obtains milk. Then they barter. John now owns the milk even though he did not produce it, ditto for Peter and the corn. But they can each trace their ownership to homesteading and agreed upon contract. Other licit transfers would include buying, selling, gambling, gift-giving, investing, lending, borrowing, etc.

    There are several levels of libertarianism based on the degree of adherence to these two principles. At the lowest level is the classical liberalism of such figures as Milton Friedman, Friedrich Hayek, and James Buchanan. They favor free enterprise, to be sure, but they also allow for all sorts of government intervention into the economy. For example, involving support for the Fed (instead of free enterprise money), school vouchers (instead of full educational privatization), a small amount of welfare (e.g., the negative income tax), anti-trust regulation, etc. A closer observance of the NAP would be the constitutionalism of Ron Paul, who would very strictly interpret this document. But, since in addition to armies, police, and courts, it allows for governmental highways, streets, and a post office, it is not as lean and mean as the minimal government libertarianism of advocates such as Ayn Rand and Robert Nozick, who only allow for the first three aforementioned functions.

    Libertarianism is unique. It is neither of the right nor of the left. Followers of this view would, even more so than the left, legalize prostitution, pornography, gambling, and drugs (all of them); even more so than the right would support laissez-faire capitalism and free association.

    Second, anarchism. Do such folk as Murray N. Rothbard and Javier Milei support riotous living, wildness in the streets, wokism, bomb-throwing, and other such acts usually associated with this viewpoint? Of course not. That would be left-wing anarchism, and the perspective we are now discussing has nothing in common with hippies of that sort. Rather, anarchism is justified on the ground that governments violate, and necessarily so, the NAP. They demand taxes from their citizens and residents, but the people have agreed to no such arrangements. All contracts, to be legitimate, should be unanimously agreed upon, for example, the one between John and Peter mentioned above. There never was a state that was formed on a unanimous basis; always, instead, they were based on mere majorities. But this is a clear and present violation of the NAP and of the private property rights of the minority.

    Third, capitalism. One function of this characteristic is to distinguish this viewpoint from that of left-wing or socialist anarchism, advocates of which oppose money, profits, employment, hierarchies, etc. Adam Smith, no anarchist, had it right with his “invisible hand.” The idea is to privatize everything, with no exception. If it moves, privatize it; if it doesn’t move, privatize that too. Since everything either moves or does not move, privatize everything. This would certainly include not only money, education, welfare (charity), and post offices but also armies, courts, police, highways, and bodies of water.

    Is there no tension, not to say a logical contradiction, between a libertarian anarcho-capitalist being an employee of the government, let alone the head of this organization? No. Members of this group are entirely justified in using government streets and state libraries, working for public universities, and enjoying public parks. Ron Paul was, for many years, a US congressman. Javier Milei is now the president (elect) of Argentina. This can be justified on the grounds of self-defense. The government is an illicit institution, a criminal organization, and thus is in no position to object to such infiltration on any ground of rights violation.





    Walter Block is mentioned here as a prominent anarcho-capitalist:
    Milei, Javier. 2023. “An interview with Javier Milei.”











    This originally appeared on UncoverDC.com and was reprinted with the author’s permission.

    Copyright © Walter E. Block, UncoverDC.com


    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/01/...ho-capitalist/
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    ^^^ @susano ^^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Then, when we mix our labor with the land, homestead it a la John Locke, we become its rightful owners.
    However ...

    KOL 037 | John Locke's Big Mistake: Stephan Kinsella at Liberty in the Pines
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXh50Ac1_ug
    {N. Stephan Kinisella | 16 May 2016}

    Originally published on Apr 24, 2013. This one has a better audio track than the original.

    Stephan Kinsella speaks on the topic of Locke's big mistake: How the labor theory of property ruined economics and political theory.

    Podcast here: https://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-...itical-theory/



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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Is there no tension, not to say a logical contradiction, between a libertarian anarcho-capitalist being an employee of the government, let alone the head of this organization? No. [...]
    There are at least some tensions - and more than just a few:

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 02-25-2024 at 03:20 PM.
    The Bastiat Collection · FREE PDF · FREE EPUB · PAPER
    Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)

    • "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
      -- The Law (p. 54)
    • "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
      -- Government (p. 99)
    • "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
      -- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)
    • "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
      -- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)

    · tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito ·

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    KOL 037 | John Locke's Big Mistake: Stephan Kinsella at Liberty in the Pines
    Locke rehabilitated:



    1. Everybody owns himself.

    2. Any previously unused resource[a] can be originally appropriated simply by putting it to use. The first user owns it.

    3. Everybody is free to transform the resources he owns into other resources by mixing them with his labor, e.g. a carpenter may transform the wood he owns into cabinets and no one has the right to stop him from doing this.

    4. Everybody is free to exchange whatever he has for whatever someone else is willing to give him for it (voluntary trade). Lawful trade cannot rightly be either compelled or prohibited by anybody.

    [a] -- this definition specifically excludes all forms of flag-planting... simply issuing an NFT-token of a satellite image of terra nullia does not make you the owner of the pictured land
    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post

    I haven’t come across Javier referencing Agorism, but ^that right there^ implies that he is aware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    ^^^ @susano ^^^
    Thanks so much. I'm a fan and fascinated by him. I've read a bit about him and even looked at his astrological chart. Sounds like he had a dreadful childhood. I love his love for his dogs! Quite eccentric and very much his own person. I was disappointed to see him embrace Zelensky who is a corrupt little tyrant. I chalked it up to Melei hating communism and thought that as smart he is he may not be familiar with the details of what's going on over there. I hope that's it. I also saw that he converted Judaism after the election and saw a pic of him with some Chabad Lubavitch rabbis. Is that weird, or what? While I still think some libertarian ideas will never be realized and remain in the ideaspehere, I'm anxious to see what he can achieve. I will watch the interview. BTW, you probably don't care but I also find him extremely attractive and sexy which adds to his charisma.
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

    -GLP poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Thanks so much. I'm a fan and fascinated by him. I've read a bit about him and even looked at his astrological chart. Sounds like he had a dreadful childhood. I love his love for his dogs! Quite eccentric and very much his own person. I was disappointed to see him embrace Zelensky who is a corrupt little tyrant. I chalked it up to Melei hating communism and thought that as smart he is he may not be familiar with the details of what's going on over there. I hope that's it. I also saw that he converted Judaism after the election and saw a pic of him with some Chabad Lubavitch rabbis. Is that weird, or what? While I still think some libertarian ideas will never be realized and remain in the ideaspehere, I'm anxious to see what he can achieve. I will watch the interview. BTW, you probably don't care but I also find him extremely attractive and sexy which adds to his charisma.
    Good thing I’m a libertarian/agorist… if I was a Repuglican, I’d tell your husband
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    The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Good thing I’m a libertarian/agorist… if I was a Repuglican, I’d tell your husband
    That would be bad as he might get suspicious about my sudden desire to learn Spanish.
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

    -GLP poster



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    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    That would be bad as he might get suspicious about my sudden desire to learn Spanish.
    He estado aprendiendo español usando Duolingo, aunque la mayoría de mis interacciones son en inglés. ;-)
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    Man I was just talking to a friend from PR yesterday and asked him if he'd heard any Milei speeches ('cause I figured, if you can understand it without translators, why not watch) and he started spouting all sorts of hearsay about how he's in bed with the bankers.

    My reply was basically 'why would someone who is in bed with central banks choose to represent a crank ideology that almost nobody understands - and represent that ideology more accurately than people who actively attack it???'
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    He estado aprendiendo español usando Duolingo, aunque la mayoría de mis interacciones son en inglés. ;-)
    Es un hermoso idioma. ¡Toda la suerte!
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

    -GLP poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Man I was just talking to a friend from PR yesterday and asked him if he'd heard any Milei speeches ('cause I figured, if you can understand it without translators, why not watch) and he started spouting all sorts of hearsay about how he's in bed with the bankers.

    My reply was basically 'why would someone who is in bed with central banks choose to represent a crank ideology that almost nobody understands - and represent that ideology more accurately than people who actively attack it???'
    You know, I see this kind of stuff a lot, online. That is, people being extremely suspicious of hidden agendas behind everything and everyone. Everything is controlled opposition, so and so is secretly working for "them" (banksters, Jews, WEF, etc). While I know we inhabit a world where the "leaders" and famous are a bunch of lying sack of $#@! psychopaths, I find it intellectually lazy to just give up and not use any discernment. I still have some questions regarding Milei but I don't doubt that he is just as presents himself, ideologically. I think he's a very complex man and there's still a lot more to know, like about why he supports Zelensky, converted to Judaism and why he wants to use the dollar.
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

    -GLP poster

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    @PAF - I'm reading the Agorist Primer and, other than materialist, it's exactly what my spiritual system is. IOW, something is either the truth or it isn't. Discovering what's true and then living it is the journey and the discovery process never ends. I get you now :-)
    My two daughters and I were gang-raped by some of the Newcomers. It landed us in the hospital for 3 weeks as several bones were broken. I don't blame them, it was a sexual emergency and I wasn't about to go all white privilege and deny them the release they needed, especially after being stuck in a hotel for months. I see the Newcomers as family now. They are on our side and will help us stop Trump. It is a small price to pay. Anything but Trump.

    -GLP poster

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