[It's official] Justin Amash running for US Senate (R-MI)

[oyarde]

ok so you want me to believe a state that votes for whitmer will vote for amash? Ya , not seeing it. he couldve helped where he was and decided that was no longer important to him so donating to this is going to seem pointless to many. just saying , i wish him well but wont be donating.

[sparebulb]

just saying , i wish him well but wont be donating.

No, I'm not directly donating either with the exception that I buy Tekton tools, a company owned by his family.

They have the best warranty in the affordable hand tool market, with much of it made in USA.

[Brian4Liberty]

Bunk.
Individual damage calculation was impossible at the scale of what was done.

It in no way covered real damages to businesses from the shutdown. Which means it was not compensation for real damages, it was blanket, across the board, universal basic compensation.

It was not a test of UBI and provided no useful data for such.

Trump could take away every ICE vehicle, and give everyone an electric car, and you would claim it was completely unrelated and had nothing at all to do with "electrification" and the climate change agenda.

[oyarde]

No, I'm not directly donating either with the exception that I buy Tekton tools, a company owned by his family.

They have the best warranty in the affordable hand tool market, with much of it made in USA.

closest I come is a set of half inch drive deep well Michigan Industrial Tool impact six point sockets ( Grand Rapids , Mich)

[sparebulb]

closest I come is a set of half inch drive deep well Michigan Industrial Tool six point sockets ( Grand Rapids , Mich)

I liked the name Michigan Industrial Tool better than Tekton. I guess they thought they were being cool with the name change.

Have you liked the sockets?

I was going to buy both sets of flarenut crowsfoots, but everyone seems to agree that there is none better than SnapOn, so I bucked up.

I might buy some Tekton hydraulic wrenches soon.

Tekton picks and mini pry bars are first rate for the money. So are their big pry bars which are made by Wilde. Hit and miss, some of their slip joint pliers are also made by Wilde.

[oyarde]

I liked the name Michigan Industrial Tool better than Tekton. I guess they thought they were being cool with the name change.

Have you liked the sockets?

I was going to buy both sets of flarenut crowsfoots, but everyone seems to agree that there is none better than SnapOn, so I bucked up.

I might buy some Tekton hydraulic wrenches soon.

Tekton picks and mini pry bars are first rate for the money. So are their big pry bars which are made by Wilde. Hit and miss, some of their slip joint pliers are also made by Wilde.

Sockets have been good but I agree with tool truck flare nut crowsfeet . Wilde makes good tools , I have a pr of pliers and bought a couple punch and chisel sets and gifted on to one of my Sons. I actually like my Pittsburg pry bars ( Harbor Freight) and the 1/2 dr deep well impact sockets there of same brand are good and Home Depot Ryobi as well. I do try to buy American though but it is harder these days , all my Channelock and Klein pliers are still made in US, but my Blue Point ( Snap On ) pliers are made in Taiwan now I think. Kind of upgraded my old Craftsman ( USA) 3/8 and 1/4 short and deep wells to Matco and Bluepoint .

[sparebulb]

Sockets have been good but I agree with tool truck flare nut crowsfeet . Wilde makes good tools , I have a pr of pliers and bought a couple punch and chisel sets and gifted on to one of my Sons. I actually like my Pittsburg pry bars ( Harbor Freight) and the 1/2 dr deep well impact sockets there of same brand are good and Home Depot Ryobi as well. I do try to buy American though but it is harder these days , all my Channelock pliers are still made in Penn, but my Blue Point ( Snap On ) pliers are made in Taiwan now I think. Kind of upgraded my old Craftsman ( USA) 3/8 and 1/4 deep wells to Matco and Bluepoint .

Craftsman is dead to me now. I will buy US made crapsman monkey wrenches when I seem them because they were the best.

For what its worth, HyperTough pry bars from the WalMarx are made by Wilde in the US. They are a bargain and are in normal stock in stores for some reason. They are guaranteed but you need to have the original receipt and they probably won't have US ones to warranty out if you do manage to break a prybar 40 years in the future. I managed to get by without prybars for the last 40+ years, but I now use them all of the time. I never knew what I was missing by not having a good set of picks and mini pry bars.

I'm going to buy a set of punches and chisels so I can have a complete set. I wonder if Tektons are made by Wilde. I think warranty through Tekton would be easier than Wilde.

[oyarde]

Craftsman is dead to me now. I will buy US made crapsman monkey wrenches when I seem them because they were the best.

For what its worth, HyperTough pry bars from the WalMarx are made by Wilde in the US. They are a bargain and are in normal stock in stores for some reason. They are guaranteed but you need to have the original receipt and they probably won't have US ones to warranty out if you do manage to break a prybar 40 years in the future. I managed to get by without prybars for the last 40+ years, but I now use them all of the time. I never knew what I was missing by not having a good set of picks and mini pry bars.

I'm going to buy a set of punches and chisels so I can have a complete set. I wonder if Tektons are made by Wilde. I think warranty through Tekton would be easier than Wilde.

I use my pry bars and picks a lot too , I even have the fancy Snap On picks but no real need for someone to pay that much for them probably.

[sparebulb]

I use my pry bars and picks a lot too , I even have the fancy Snap On picks but no real need for someone to pay that much for them probably.

Agreed.

For some reason, I find cathartic relief talking about hand tools than discussing the disaster of politics.

Sorry about the thread hijack everyone.

[Swordsmyth]

ok so you want me to believe a state that votes for whitmer will vote for amash? Ya , not seeing it. he couldve helped where he was and decided that was no longer important to him so donating to this is going to seem pointless to many. just saying , i wish him well but wont be donating.

They might.
He did support having the military pay for Trans surgeries and giving voting rights to illegal invaders.

[tebowlives]

They might.
He did support having the military pay for Trans surgeries and giving voting rights to illegal invaders.

"The NDAA says nothing about transgender persons or their medical treatment. These subjects are not addressed in the bill. Voting no on an amendment cannot add these subjects to the bill."

[Swordsmyth]

"The NDAA says nothing about transgender persons or their medical treatment. These subjects are not addressed in the bill. Voting no on an amendment cannot add these subjects to the bill."

FLASHBACK: Justin Amash Supported Federally-Funded Transgender Surgeries for Military


Justin Amash Votes in Support of Illegal Immigrant’s Right To Vote

[Swordsmyth]

When self-proclaimed constitutionalist Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) endorsed impeachment of President Donald Trump, it shocked many conservative Republicans to see the former tea party favorite join in the Democrats’ witch hunt.
But Amash’s left-ward drift has been a long time in the making. One egregious example in recent years was Amash’s support of federally-funded elective surgery for transgenders in the military.
In 2017, Amash joined 190 Democrats and a handful of liberal anti-Trump Republicans to reject a proposal by Rep. Vicky Hartzler (R-MO) to deny federal funds for the elective surgery of military personnel claiming they are transgender.
“We must confront these challenges by ensuring our defense dollars maximize the military’s readiness and lethality,” Hartlzer said. “That is why I’m offering an amendment to advance these goals by prohibiting taxpayer dollars from funding gender reassignment surgeries and related hormone therapy treatment for members of the military and their dependents.”


The measure could have saved up to $3.7 billion over the next decade by refusing to indulge these potentially mentally ill individuals with genital mutilation surgery and other health care services pertaining to their condition. The supposed fiscal conservative voted in effect to expend federal funds on this social project.
After feeling the heat from his constituents regarding this vote, Amash first passed the buck, blaming former Defense Secretary James Mattis to his support of military transgenderism.
“Sec. [James] Mattis and the White House urged us not to adopt Hartzler Amendment [and] all the administration wants is three months to review everything,” he said.
The administration never confirmed Amash’s statement. It does not seem plausible that Amash, who has emerged as the top opponent to Trump in the Republican Party, would take orders from his White House.

Always talking out of both sides of his mouth, Amash seemed to endorse the idea of federally funding transgender medical care when addressing his followers on social media.
“Those who serve in our Armed Forces deserve the best medical care,” Amash wrote on his Facebook account. “One question we must ask and answer, with the aid of the medical community, is which treatments are medically necessary and which are simply elective. With respect to transgender persons, we should focus on the best science, not the political or philosophical opinions of partisans.”
Other times Amash has worked with Democrats have included his vote against Kate’s Law, his voting down of a resolution condemning illegal immigrants voting in elections, and his protection of Planned Parenthood funding with Obama-esque ‘present’ votes.
Two primary challengers have already announced that they will be battling against Amash next year to be the Republican U.S. Congressional nominee in Michigan’s third district.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/flashb...-for-military/

[tebowlives]

FLASHBACK: Justin Amash Supported Federally-Funded Transgender Surgeries for Military




Justin Amash Votes in Support of Illegal Immigrant’s Right To Vote

What part of this don't you understand? ""The NDAA says nothing about transgender persons or their medical treatment. These subjects are not addressed in the bill. Voting no on an amendment cannot add these subjects to the bill.""

[acptulsa]

What part of this don't you understand? ""The NDAA says nothing about transgender persons or their medical treatment. These subjects are not addressed in the bill. Voting no on an amendment cannot add these subjects to the bill.""

Just enough to be willingly manipulated by something he might honestly believe isn't the Controlled Oppo Division of the MSM.

And just like every libtard you ever dealt with, not believing the same op/ed peddlers he believes is reason enough for him to call his intellectual betters idiots.

[Swordsmyth]

What part of this don't you understand? ""The NDAA says nothing about transgender persons or their medical treatment. These subjects are not addressed in the bill. Voting no on an amendment cannot add these subjects to the bill.""

The point was to prohibit what eventually happened, it didn't need to be prt of it to happen, it needed to be prohibited:

In 2017, Amash joined 190 Democrats and a handful of liberal anti-Trump Republicans to reject a proposal by Rep. Vicky Hartzler (R-MO) to deny federal funds for the elective surgery of military personnel claiming they are transgender.

The measure could have saved up to $3.7 billion over the next decade by refusing to indulge these potentially mentally ill individuals with genital mutilation surgery and other health care services pertaining to their condition. The supposed fiscal conservative voted in effect to expend federal funds on this social project.
After feeling the heat from his constituents regarding this vote, Amash first passed the buck, blaming former Defense Secretary James Mattis to his support of military transgenderism.
“Sec. [James] Mattis and the White House urged us not to adopt Hartzler Amendment [and] all the administration wants is three months to review everything,” he said.
The administration never confirmed Amash’s statement. It does not seem plausible that Amash, who has emerged as the top opponent to Trump in the Republican Party, would take orders from his White House.

Always talking out of both sides of his mouth, Amash seemed to endorse the idea of federally funding transgender medical care when addressing his followers on social media.
“Those who serve in our Armed Forces deserve the best medical care,” Amash wrote on his Facebook account. “One question we must ask and answer, with the aid of the medical community, is which treatments are medically necessary and which are simply elective. With respect to transgender persons, we should focus on the best science, not the political or philosophical opinions of partisans.”

And there's much more:

Other times Amash has worked with Democrats have included his vote against Kate’s Law, his voting down of a resolution condemning illegal immigrants voting in elections, and his protection of Planned Parenthood funding with Obama-esque ‘present’ votes.

[tebowlives]

[QUOTE=Swordsmyth;7210673]The point was to prohibit what eventually happened, it didn't need to be prt of it to happen, it needed to be prohibited:





And there's much more:[/QUOTEI already told you what the point was, ""The NDAA says nothing about transgender persons or their medical treatment. These subjects are not addressed in the bill. Voting no on an amendment cannot add these subjects to the bill.""

Everything else is just juvenile deflection. See, see what else he did.

[Swordsmyth]

[QUOTE=tebowlives;7210755]

The point was to prohibit what eventually happened, it didn't need to be prt of it to happen, it needed to be prohibited:





And there's much more:[/QUOTEI already told you what the point was, ""The NDAA says nothing about transgender persons or their medical treatment. These subjects are not addressed in the bill. Voting no on an amendment cannot add these subjects to the bill.""

Everything else is just juvenile deflection. See, see what else he did.

Voting no on the amendment cleared the path for it to happen, and he expressed his support for it to happen and linked it to his vote:

“Those who serve in our Armed Forces deserve the best medical care,” Amash wrote on his Facebook account. “One question we must ask and answer, with the aid of the medical community, is which treatments are medically necessary and which are simply elective. With respect to transgender persons, we should focus on the best science, not the political or philosophical opinions of partisans.”

You seem to think other people can't read or think.

[tebowlives]

Voting no on the amendment cleared the path for it to happen, and he expressed his support for it to happen and linked it to his vote:

lol It didn't pass by 1 or 2 votes

You seem to think other people can't read or think.

No just you. You don't get to tell Amash his reasoning. He does. Again "The NDAA says nothing about transgender persons or their medical treatment. These subjects are not addressed in the bill. Voting no on an amendment cannot add these subjects to the bill."

[Swordsmyth]

lol It didn't pass by 1 or 2 votes

Doesn't matter how much it failed by.

No just you. You don't get to tell Amash his reasoning. He does. Again "The NDAA says nothing about transgender persons or their medical treatment. These subjects are not addressed in the bill. Voting no on an amendment cannot add these subjects to the bill."

Proving you can't read or are a blatantly gaslighting troll.
He told us his motivation was to let the DoD do it:

“Those who serve in our Armed Forces deserve the best medical care,” Amash wrote on his Facebook account. “One question we must ask and answer, with the aid of the medical community, is which treatments are medically necessary and which are simply elective. With respect to transgender persons, we should focus on the best science, not the political or philosophical opinions of partisans.”

He's pretending that the surgery could possibly be necessary and that "the science" should be allowed to declare it is.
Adding the prohibition to the bill was the entire point and what he opposed on progressive grounds.

[tebowlives]

Doesn't matter how much it failed by.

Then don't say it cleared the path for it to pass, it's a blatant, bald faced lie.

Proving you can't read or are a blatantly gaslighting troll.
He told us his motivation was to let the DoD do it:

Proving you don't care about the truth or are just a petulant little child who makes things up
Again "The NDAA says nothing about transgender persons or their medical treatment. These subjects are not addressed in the bill. Voting no on an amendment cannot add these subjects to the bill."

He's pretending that the surgery could possibly be necessary and that "the science" should be allowed to declare it is.
Adding the prohibition to the bill was the entire point and what he opposed on progressive grounds.

And you're making things up because you don't have a leg to stand on. Yea lets listen to the one with a twisted agenda and not the reason from Amash.

[Occam's Banana]

In my opinion, at least every president since after Coolidge deserves to have been impeached and removed for one reason and/or another.

Impeachments and removals from office should not need to be predicated upon the commission of criminal acts. Politicians and government bureaucrats are not entitled to their offices, and none of them have any right to not be figuratively defenestrated.

The commies and gun-grabbers and other would-be rights-violators should all be unceremoniously tossed out on their asses immediately upon detection of their presence - and for no other reason than that they are commies or gun-grabbers or would-be rights-violators. (And then they can be prosecuted for any criminal acts they might have committed.)

https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/st...67719189967279

Indictments/Impeachments for false reasons are different from those for valid reasons or Impeachments for no reason.
Supporting those predicated on falsehoods leads to tyranny.

I have no problem with the idea of tryannizing the government. The government should be tyrannized.

And when it comes to booting out commies, gun grabbers, etc., if some false positives end up getting the boot along with the true positives, then that's fine, too. Again, politicians and government bureaucrats are not entitled to their offices, and no one's rights would be violated by denying them those positions, whatever the reasons (good or bad).

[Swordsmyth]

Then don't say it cleared the path for it to pass, it's a blatant, bald faced lie.




Proving you don't care about the truth or are just a petulant little child who makes things up
Again "The NDAA says nothing about transgender persons or their medical treatment. These subjects are not addressed in the bill. Voting no on an amendment cannot add these subjects to the bill."


And you're making things up because you don't have a leg to stand on. Yea lets listen to the one with a twisted agenda and not the reason from Amash.

[Swordsmyth]

https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/st...67719189967279




I have no problem with the idea of tryannizing the government. The government should be tyrannized.

And when it comes to booting out commies, gun grabbers, etc., if some false positives end up getting the boot along with the true positives, then that's fine, too. Again, politicians and government bureaucrats are not entitled to their offices, and no one's rights would be violated by denying them those positions, whatever the reasons (good or bad).

It won't be the government getting tyrannized and everyone knows it.
It is the deepstate doing the tyrannizing and if facilitated by fools or traitors it will be aimed at the citizens after they use it to get rid of their opposition.

[acptulsa]

Gee, what an articulate rebuttal.

It won't be the government getting tyrannized and everyone knows it.
It is the deepstate doing the tyrannizing and if facilitated by fools or traitors it will be aimed at the citizens after they use it to get rid of their opposition.

No. We outnumber those psychos and we can totally tyrannize them. It takes some serious state worship to take it as a tenet of faith that politicians are unassailable. And such an ignorance of history that you don't even seem to know why the guillotine was invented.

[Swordsmyth]

Gee, what an articulate rebuttal.

All the better he deserves, I don't have to repeat myself every time he points at the sun and calls it the moon.

No. We outnumber those psychos and we can totally tyrannize them. It takes some serious state worship to take it as a tenet of faith that politicians are unassailable. And such an ignorance of history that you don't even seem to know why the guillotine was invented.

Tell it to the J6 prisoners.
Tell it to Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn.

[acptulsa]

All the better he deserves, I don't have to repeat myself every time he points at the sun and calls it the moon.

You expect us to repeat ourselves every time you point at Trump mooning us and call it the sun. Why wouldn't you return the courtesy?

Tell it to the J6 prisoners.
Tell it to Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn.

I'll do that. Meanwhile you tell it to Anastasia Romanov and Marie Antoinette.

[tebowlives]

All the better he deserves, I don't have to repeat myself every time he points at the sun and calls it the moon.

It's not my fault you miss the point and make things up because you want to be right

Tell it to the J6 prisoners.
Tell it to Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn.

Oh cool a meaningless data point

[Occam's Banana]

It won't be the government getting tyrannized and everyone knows it.
It is the deepstate doing the tyrannizing and if facilitated by fools or traitors it will be aimed at the citizens after they use it to get rid of their opposition.

*whew!* Talk about "gaslighting"!

Summarily booting commies, gun-grabbers, etc. out of office is always a good thing and never a bad thing.

And the "deep state" angle just means there should be even more impeachments, not fewer (and they should be easier to see through to completion).

Tell it to the J6 prisoners.

You mean the J6ers Trump left twisting in the wind while he pardoned a random assortment of rappers?

You mean those prisoners?

LOL

[Swordsmyth]

*whew!* Talk about "gaslighting"!

Summarily booting commies, gun-grabbers, etc. out of office is always a good thing and never a bad thing.

And the "deep state" angle just means there should be even more impeachments, not fewer (and they should be easier to see through to completion).



You mean the J6ers Trump left twisting in the wind while he pardoned a random assortment of rappers?

You mean those prisoners?

LOL

The wolves want you to help them expel the shepherd by foul means, and because you think he eats a sheep now and then you cheer for it.
If Amash was honest or intelligent (whichever you want to claim he is short of) he would offer up articles of impeachment based on arguably real grounds.

I mean the J6 prisoners that Trump was being accused of (and currently prosecuted for) colluding with to launch a coup and insurrection, the pardons would have been overturned and used as evidence of his guilt.
A pardons would have conceded the precedent that the protests were indeed illegal insurrection and damaged our rights going forward.
You do know that nobody had been convicted when he left office, right?
Blanket pardons would also have protected any fed agents in the crowd should we catch them in the future.