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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by The Rebel Poet View Post
    Yup. Michigan Republicans chose the deepstate because "orange man good".
    Well, probably quite by accident, Trump did endorse at least one liberty oriented candidate. He lost.

    IMHO, Trump is just endorsing the probable winners so that they might "owe" him something later, and so Trump can say everyone he endorses wins.
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  3. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    What about a distinction between what is necessary to achieve gender transition versus what is necessary because of gender transition? For those who have had vagioplasty, they have basically an ongoing open wound that has to be properly dealt with or else there is a risk of infection and death.

    https://nursing.jhu.edu/magazine/art...-vaginoplasty/

    Even those who de-transition, like Walter Heyer, have ongoing health issues.

    https://virtueonline.org/review-tran...ors-walt-heyer
    I was 50 when I had the breast implants removed, but the next few years were spent in confusion and counseling. In 1996, at the age of 55, I was finally free from the desire to live as a woman and changed my legal documents back to Walt, my biologically correct male sex. I still have scars on my chest, reminders of the gender detour that cost me 13 years of my life. I am on a hormone regimen to try to regulate a system that is permanently altered.

    The amendment could have been better written IMO. There should be no money for helping someone to transition, but a case by case basis for meeting the actual health needs of people who have already transitioned.
    Bounce them on a medical discharge.
    Better yet, a mental health discharge.

    The taxpayer shouldn't have to pay for self inflicted wounds.
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  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Bounce them on a medical discharge.
    Better yet, a mental health discharge.

    The taxpayer shouldn't have to pay for self inflicted wounds.
    Self-inflicted?

    A hand held the knife.

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  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Self-inflicted?

    A hand held the knife.
    A hand they told to.
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  7. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    A hand they told to.
    I think they should have known better too.

    But they didn't. They were lied to. And your "Christian" attitude is, let them suffer and die.

  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I think they should have known better too.

    But they didn't. They were lied to. And your "Christian" attitude is, let them suffer and die.
    LOL
    You just can't help yourself, you have to libel.

    My attitude is that they should live and recover to whatever extent is possible.
    On their own dime or the dime of some charity.

    They are unfit to serve and have no right to my tax money.
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  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL
    You just can't help yourself, you have to libel.
    What you're saying is worse than my interpretation, and you call it libel. Army doctors ultimately ordered the maiming and you figure the Army owes them nothing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are unfit to serve and have no right to my tax money.
    Turn back the Enlightenment, Swordy's nostalgic for the Dark Ages.




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  11. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What you're saying is worse than my interpretation, and you call it libel. Army doctors ultimately ordered the maiming and you figure the Army owes them nothing...



    Turn back the Enlightenment, Swordy's nostalgic for the Dark Ages.

    Nobody ordered them to go trans, their demands were approved, the taxpayers owe them nothing.

    And You are letting your socialism show again.
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  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ...their demands were approved...
    You've got a strange view of how the armed forces work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And You are letting your socialism show again.
    So you think ongoing medical care for veterans is wrong? Does a vet have no claim for ongoing medical care for a battle wound as well? Is that "socialism" too?

    Or have you suddenly turned ancap and feel there shouldn't even be armed forces now?

  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    To a certain extent that is correct, but IMHO, it wouldn't be the biggest factor.

    - Mike Rogers has name recognition, which is one of the biggest factors for the ignorant voting masses.

    - Mike Rogers is blood-soaked and anti-liberty, but the percentage of the GOP primary voters who understand that are in a minority (maybe 15.6%). Ignorance is the rule.

    - At the end of Amash's term in Congress, he let TDS get the best of him, and ended up categorized with Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger. He switched to the Libertarian Party. This was a GOP primary, and if the voters remembered anything at all, it was that Amash wasn't exactly your standard Republican, and certainly not a Trump guy.

    - Yes, Mike Rogers should be the one categorized with Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, but once again, ignorance is bliss with the majority of voters.
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  14. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    ...ignorance is bliss with the majority of voters.
    In fact, they work at it. They insist on it.

  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    - At the end of Amash's term in Congress, he let TDS get the best of him, and ended up categorized with Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger. He switched to the Libertarian Party. This was a GOP primary, and if the voters remembered anything at all, it was that Amash wasn't exactly your standard Republican, and certainly not a Trump guy.
    This. Amash shot himself in the foot. If he had been smarter about things he would have still been in Congress and would have actually had a chance at the Senate seat.
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  16. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by The Rebel Poet View Post
    Yup. Michigan Republicans chose the deepstate because "orange man good".
    I think it probably goes deeper than that. Look at who they elected Governor.
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  17. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You've got a strange view of how the armed forces work.



    So you think ongoing medical care for veterans is wrong? Does a vet have no claim for ongoing medical care for a battle wound as well? Is that "socialism" too?

    Or have you suddenly turned ancap and feel there shouldn't even be armed forces now?
    Am I misunderstanding, or are you equating an elective sex change with a battle wound?
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  18. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You've got a strange view of how the armed forces work.
    LOL

    You seem to think your commanding officer comes and tells you that you are going to be transitioned and to report to surgery.

    LOL

    The trannies lobbied hard to get their procedures covered by the military, then they asked to have it done when Biden's administration gave them what they wanted.

    It's absolutely a self inflicted wound, and the taxpayer already got robbed for the initial surgery


    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    So you think ongoing medical care for veterans is wrong? Does a vet have no claim for ongoing medical care for a battle wound as well? Is that "socialism" too?

    Or have you suddenly turned ancap and feel there shouldn't even be armed forces now?
    I think that ongoing robbing of the taxpayer to cover self inflicted wounds for the mentally ill is socialism, and subsidizing perversion and insanity.
    The injury was not the result of every day accident or combat, it never should have been paid for to do it, and it absolutely shouldn't be covered for the ongoing problems they caused themselves.

    They get mental illness discharges and can pay for their own folly or solicit charity, they don't get to use government guns to rob us further.
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  20. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Am I misunderstanding, or are you equating an elective sex change with a battle wound?
    He is.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  21. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Am I misunderstanding, or are you equating an elective sex change with a battle wound?
    No, I'm saying the eighteen year olds they recruit are young, foolish, and looking for an authority they can rely on, and they're getting betrayed in a big way. They're getting sales pitches and nobody's reading them the fine print.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He is.
    You generally can't even understand and articulate your own thoughts, much less mine.

  22. #139
    So, Amash lost?

    That sucks, I think.

  23. #140
    Uber MIC-Neocon Mike Rogers loses...


    https://x.com/SenatorBrakey/status/1854874352451240005
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  24. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Uber MIC-Neocon Mike Rogers loses...


    https://x.com/SenatorBrakey/status/1854874352451240005
    This is in part to Trump.

    Winning

  25. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Uber MIC-Neocon Mike Rogers loses...
    ...
    Hopefully Trump doesn't give him a position in his administration.

  26. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Bern View Post
    Hopefully Trump doesn't give him a position in his administration.
    Ugh!
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  27. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by Bern View Post
    Hopefully Trump doesn't give him a position in his administration.
    I have a feeling Trump will let in a handful to appease the DS, etc.
    I don't think it'll be a full repeat of 2016, however.
    Welcome to the R3VOLUTION!



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  29. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Ugh!
    Alabama Congressman Mike Rogers is reportedly being considered to serve as the secretary of defense when President-elect Donald Trump returns to the White House for a second term in January.
    ...
    https://www.al.com/news/2024/11/who-...f-defense.html

  30. #146
    Yeah, saw that. Both Mike Rogers are MIC-neocon stooges.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  31. #147
    Oh snap! I thought "both" were actually the same guy. I didn't pay enough attention. Lol. How embarrassing.

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