[It's official] Justin Amash running for US Senate (R-MI)

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/justinamash/stat...12374865412458

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/ComicDaveSmith/s...62423855022330

[Bern]

Go Justin!

[Brian4Liberty]

https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/1748139865214992614

[Brian4Liberty]

https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/1748146107803189759

[Matt Collins]

He would be one of the better ones for sure, but he lost his way his last few years in the House. Also he has done a lot of damage to his reputation especially among Trump supporters due to his TDS (he could have handled it better). I honestly doubt he could raise the money and support to do it with his history. I could be wrong, and I hope I am, but that's how I see it.

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/st...58406001258731

[jct74]

There's no clear frontrunner right now in the race for the GOP nomination to succeed retiring-Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.). Among the contenders: former Detroit Police Chief James Craig, businessman Sandy Pensler, former Rep. Mike Rogers (R) and former Rep. Peter Meijer (R) — who succeeded Amash in Congress and also criticized the former president before recently reversing himself and vowing to support Trump if he wins the party's 2024 nomination.

https://www.politico.com/live-update...-back-00136338


Interesting. Mike Rogers is a candidate in the race, who I remember Justin has clashed with several times before, on national security issues I think. Rogers even fundraised for one of Amash's opponents, Brian Ellis.

https://www.politico.com/story/2014/...ichigan-107486

[Brian4Liberty]

https://www.politico.com/live-update...-back-00136338


Interesting. Mike Rogers is a candidate in the race, who I remember Justin has clashed with several times before, on national security issues I think. Rogers even fundraised for one of Amash's opponents, Brian Ellis.

https://www.politico.com/story/2014/...ichigan-107486

Yeah, the GOP primary candidates look bad. IIRC, both Rogers and Meijer were neocons. Is that why Amash has been encouraged to run?

[Cap]

Yes please!

[Swordsmyth]

If he thinks people have forgotten his support for the impeachment lies he is sorely mistaken.

[Anti Globalist]

If he thinks people have forgotten his support for the impeachment lies he is sorely mistaken.

People tend to forget a lot of things when it comes time for people to vote. That will be no different.

[Swordsmyth]

People tend to forget a lot of things when it comes time for people to vote. That will be no different.

Dream on.

[acptulsa]

If he thinks people have forgotten his support for the impeachment lies he is sorely mistaken.

If you think the Trump Ass-Kissing Test cuts any ice with the majority of voters you're sorely mistaken.

[Swordsmyth]

If you think the Trump Ass-Kissing Test cuts any ice with the majority of voters you're sorely mistaken.

LOL

You are completely out of touch, and you learned nothing from Iowa.

[Invisible Man]

I will definitely support him. But the same baggage that stopped him from being able to win the Republican nomination for his own House seat is going to be every bit as much of a hindrance in this attempt as well. He'll have Trump running against him as well as the Republican establishment.

[acptulsa]

LOL

You are completely out of touch, and you learned nothing from Iowa.

Iowa was a referendum on whether Haley is more frightening than Trump.

I already knew she's more frightening than Trump. What was I supposed to learn?

[Invisible Man]

Iowa was a referendum on whether Haley is more frightening than Trump.

I already knew she's more frightening than Trump. What was I supposed to learn?

I disagree. A very high number of rank and file Republicans continue to zealously support Trump/have TDS.

[acptulsa]

I disagree. A very high number of rank and file Republicans continue to zealously support Trump/have TDS.

We knew that too. Just like you know they're not 50%.

[Invisible Man]

We knew that too. Just like you know they're not 50%.

Turnout at this year's Iowa caucuses was low. It was something like 15% of Iowa's registered Republicans, and much lower than it was in 2016.

Of those who showed up, I think almost all of the 51% who supported Trump really support him. They weren't holding their noses and just voting for what they saw as the lesser of 2 evils or the least of 4 evils.

The people who didn't really like any of the options didn't attend the caucuses.

So yeah, the Trump butt kissing litmus test has lost some of its potency compared with the last few elections. But it's still a big factor. And for Amash, when you combine that with the GOP establishment also being against him, that's probably too much to overcome.

[Swordsmyth]

Turnout at this year's Iowa caucuses was low. It was something like 15% of Iowa's registered Republicans, and much lower than it was in 2016.

Of those who showed up, I think almost all of the 51% who supported Trump really support him. They weren't holding their noses and just voting for what they saw as the lesser of 2 evils or the least of 4 evils.

The people who didn't really like any of the options didn't attend the caucuses.

So yeah, the Trump butt kissing litmus test has lost some of its potency compared with the last few elections. But it's still a big factor. And for Amash, when you combine that with the GOP establishment also being against him, that's probably too much to overcome.

TDS.
That must be why he speaks to loudly cheering overflow crowds everywhere he goes.

Amash made himself a pariah.
It's not just that he went against Trump, even if people didn't care about Trump they care that he supported the outright lies used for the impeachments.

[Invisible Man]

TDS.
That must be why he speaks to loudly cheering overflow crowds everywhere he goes.

I agree with you that TDS is the explanation for crowds who loudly cheer for Trump.

[Swordsmyth]

I agree with you that TDS is the explanation for crowds who loudly cheer for Trump.

LOL
Your gaslighting is too crude and gets worse every year.

[nobody's_hero]

I'm not gonna poo-poo Amash too much. He's a net benefit.

IMO he's better utilized in a state senate than speaking to podcasters who will barely break 1,000 views on youtube and giving pep talks in front of exclusive college libertarian treehouse clubs. Hopefully he can get better at picking his battles though. The impeachment sham was a pretty dumb sword to fall on.

[Anti-Neocon]

Oh the irony of people at Ron Paul Forums talking down his potential run because he won't win or isn't politically suited or whatever.

If Ron Paul himself reincarnated as a younger person, you'd have people complaining about him.

You have the most consistent supporter of liberty in the House potentially running for a US Senate seat and all you're worried about is concern that he isn't MAGA enough? Give me a effing break.

Even if he doesn't win he can at least make the case for not being a statist shatbag.

[Swordsmyth]

Oh the irony of people at Ron Paul Forums talking down his potential run because he won't win or isn't politically suited or whatever.

If Ron Paul himself reincarnated as a younger person, you'd have people complaining about him.

You have the most consistent supporter of liberty in the House potentially running for a US Senate seat and all you're worried about is concern that he isn't MAGA enough? Give me a effing break.

Even if he doesn't win he can at least make the case for not being a statist shatbag.

Ron never sold out to the communists for an unconstitutional and fraudulent impeachment against a President for serving the interests of America.

[Anti-Neocon]

Ron never sold out to the communists for an unconstitutional and fraudulent impeachment against a President for serving the interests of America.

I find it most likely that Amash sold out to what he thought was truth. You're free to disagree with it, but he never showed any loyalty to "communists".

You just don't like what he did because of what side his pursuit of truth put him on. You would rather total loyalty to Trump.

[Swordsmyth]

I find it most likely that Amash sold out to what he thought was truth. You're free to disagree with it, but he never showed any loyalty to "communists".

You just don't like what he did because of what side his pursuit of truth put him on. You would rather total loyalty to Trump.

The impeachments were based on blatant lies and were in service not only of getting rid of Trump for opposing the ruling cabal but also to position us for the Ukraine farce.

[Anti-Neocon]

The impeachments were based on blatant lies and were in service not only of getting rid of Trump for opposing the ruling cabal but also to position us for the Ukraine farce.

Regardless of your personal position on the impeachments, Amash's position is that impeachments are the presidential analogy to indictments. And if you can "indict a ham sandwich" as the old adage goes, then it made tons of sense to indict Trump.

He believes that presidents should be subject to the same kinds of checks on criminal behavior as ordinary citizens, and should be impeached more often.

This to me is a great position but of course R's only like this when D's are in power and D's only like it when R's are in power.

He lost me when he started supporting a UBI. And then he started supporting other idiotic woke / socialistic sort of things because of his TDS made him blind to policy just because he hated Trump.

He explained his reasoning really well. IF a government is hell-bent on giving handouts, cash at least gives freedom to its recipients. This is as an alternative to the typical "social safety net".

This whole "Amash changed because of TDS" is imaginary when he was actually the sane one seeing Trump for the blowhard conman that he was.

[Matt Collins]

Oh the irony of people at Ron Paul Forums talking down his potential run because he won't win or isn't politically suited or whatever.

I think it would be better to have him in Congress than not, since he is indeed better than most. But the reality is that he did a lot of damage to himself making it a hard uphill climb.

You have the most consistent supporter of liberty in the House potentially running for a US Senate seat and all you're worried about is concern that he isn't MAGA enough? Give me a effing break.

Uh no. Justin is far from consistent. If you want consistency, Thomas Massie is the best example with Rand being a close 2nd.

People tend to forget a lot of things when it comes time for people to vote. That will be no different.

Friends come and go, enemies accumulate. Enemies don't forget, and they will use it in an election. Will Justin be able to overcome it? There is only one way to find out.