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    CO supreme court disqualifies Trump from ballot [SCOTUS overturns]

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    It’s the first court to find that the disqualification clause of the 14th Amendment applies to Mr. Trump, in addition to affirming that he engaged in insurrection.

    Former President Donald J. Trump is ineligible to hold office again, the Colorado Supreme Court ruled on Tuesday, accepting the argument that the 14th Amendment disqualifies him in an explosive decision that could upend the 2024 election.

    In a lengthy ruling ordering the Colorado secretary of state to exclude Mr. Trump from the state’s Republican primary ballot, the justices reversed a Denver district judge’s finding last month that Section 3 of the 14th Amendment — which disqualifies people who have engaged in insurrection against the Constitution after having taken an oath to support it from holding office — did not apply to the presidency.

    They affirmed the district judge’s other key conclusions: that Mr. Trump’s actions before and on Jan. 6, 2021, constituted engaging in insurrection, and that courts had the authority to enforce Section 3 against a person whom Congress had not specifically designated.

    “A majority of the court holds that President Trump is disqualified from holding the office of president under Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution,” the court wrote in a 4-to-3 ruling. “Because he is disqualified, it would be a wrongful act under the Election Code for the Colorado Secretary of State to list him as a candidate on the presidential primary ballot.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/19/u...amendment.html
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 12-30-2023 at 01:06 PM. Reason: added link to index of threads
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    so a state is making a federal ruling ?
    Do something Danke

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    that means my state can grant me machine guns.
    Do something Danke

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    Apparently Colorado has all the democracy it can handle. The people have spoken or some such $#@!.
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    Get used to it. The insanity we’re about to see has no bounds. You thought 2020 was out there?? You ain’t seen nothing yet.
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    That's odd. I didn't think the people of Colorado (or any other state, for that matter) voted for a presidential candidate. I thought they voted for electors, who in turn may vote for the candidate they're pledged to.
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    THREAD: Using the 14th Amendment to keep Trump off the ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Group Files 14th Amendment Lawsuit to Keep Donald Trump off Colorado Ballot
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...lorado-ballot/
    JORDAN DIXON-HAMILTON 6 Sep 2023

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    https://twitter.com/JenaGriswold/sta...52228533063787

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    Even the Colorado court doesn't expect SCOTUS to let their ruling stand.

    I won't be surprised if SCOTUS overrules it 9-0.

    Judgement (PDF file): https://www.courts.state.co.us/userf...23/23SA300.pdf

    From which (h/t @thevivafrei):

    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 12-19-2023 at 07:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    That's odd. I didn't think the people of Colorado (or any other state, for that matter) voted for a presidential candidate. I thought they voted for electors, who in turn may vote for the candidate they're pledged to.
    It only applies to the Primary ballot and election, which ironically, the DNC has already proven in court is not binding in any way on the Party.
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    They are literally banned just because they believe Trump would be causing civil war.
    Clause of the 14th Amendment applies
    Clowns.

    Joe Biden is losing his popularity.

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    I don't like Trump. But this really won't matter for three reasons. Trump was never going to win Colorado in the general election. He can win the primary without Colorado. Finally I expect scotus will overturn this ruling.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I don't like Trump. But this really won't matter for three reasons. Trump was never going to win Colorado in the general election. He can win the primary without Colorado. Finally I expect scotus will overturn this ruling.
    What , are you telling me my state cant grant my machine guns ? I was going to make some calls Fri now that the fed govt has been decided null and void by new califonia.
    Last edited by oyarde; 12-19-2023 at 09:16 PM.
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    What , are you telling me my state cant grant my macine guns ? I was going to make some calls Fri now that the fed govt has been decided null and void by new califonia.
    If states can give you weed, I see no reason they can't give you full auto. This is the country we live in now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I don't like Trump. But this really won't matter for three reasons. Trump was never going to win Colorado in the general election. He can win the primary without Colorado. Finally I expect scotus will overturn this ruling.
    You miss the point as to why these leftist states want to ban him. If Colorado and a couple of other leftist states remove Trump from the ballot, they'll be able to get their useful idiot army to riot. They're going to be talking about how the Dem candidate had 20 million or whatever more votes and lost the electoral college.

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    I bet money SCOTUS will over rule that but even if they don't CO is a blue state so it won't matter in the next election unless swing states start doing it. In which case there might be another civil war.


    And if SCOTUS allows this to stand it will have far reaching implications even if it doesn't directly impact this election.
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    Too much power in the hands of courts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    I bet money SCOTUS will over rule that but even if they don't CO is a blue state so it won't matter in the next election unless swing states start doing it.
    Um, you read the source material and the thread, right? You do know this only applies to the primary, right? You have heard of the electoral college, right?

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    https://twitter.com/cologop/status/1737292783835103476

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    Oh-ho-ho! Holy Backfire! Monkey wrench in the psyop! I love it!

    Go! Don't wait to see if it's allowed to stand! Caucuses are good!!
    Last edited by acptulsa; 12-20-2023 at 09:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Um, you read the source material and the thread, right? You do know this only applies to the primary, right? You have heard of the electoral college, right?
    Oh, no I didn't. Interesting... primary ballot..... well in that case it won't matter because the RNC can just adjust their rules to circumvent that at the Convention (which could also be a problem in and of itself).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Oh, no I didn't. Interesting... primary ballot..... well in that case it won't matter because the RNC can just adjust their rules to circumvent that at the Convention (which could also be a problem in and of itself).
    Somebody's smart enough not to wait for the convention. Read the thread.

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    https://twitter.com/cologop/status/1737292783835103476

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