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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    A lot of women are rage-quitting Western culture[/video]
    If you genuinely think it's "a lot" of women you might want to consider spending less time on the internet.
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  3. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Over ten years ago, the vast majority of Islam converts in the UK were women.

    While the "mainstream" churches of Queeerdom continue to empty and die off.

    Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers. Isaiah 1:7
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  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    If you genuinely think it's "a lot" of women you might want to consider spending less time on the internet.
    Considering the UK, how many would you consider "a lot"?
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  5. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Considering the UK, how many would you consider "a lot"?
    I wonder if any of these guys are gonna be in the market for Muslim wives (plural) after landing in some formerly-Christian district of the EU...

    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    I'm on vacation and usually I would let this slide but it's so fundamentally wrong that I had to say something.

    You do realize that many, if not most, of the Founders were Freemasons, right? GW, Franklin, to name a couple. Who is the "God" of Masonry? Shocker here but it's Lucifer. The torch of Liberty (including the Statute of Liberty itself and the Libertarian torch) is, in fact, the Light of Lucifer and Baphomet is a representation of the balance of Man's duality (or at least his seeking of it) between his higher spiritual self and his animalistic self. The Light/Flame above Baphomet's head, at least based on the statue in question, spawned from the depictions made by Eliphas Levi and worshiped as far back as the Crusades (which I know you're a big fan of) by the Knights Templar, is the Light of Knowledge and Liberty, which was inspired by the Templars ventures into regions where Eastern religion (Enlightenment) was then incorporated into their Christian belief system. So, to say that Baphomet an antithetical to the (Founding) values of the USA shows a profound lack of knowledge of history on your part. This is not to say that perhaps some of the symbolism, doctrines and purposes haven't been hijacked in the meantime by entities like the Vatican, however. Your Mormon founder was a Mason and blatantly ripped off various degree rituals (such as the veiled handshake rituals taught in the Temple) for his "new" religion, Mormonism. Plus, your idol DJT throws up so many Masonic handsigns (downward triangle, 666 "OK" sign, among others) that it's plainly obvious to people knowledgeable of the topic that he is one himself.

    Maybe read more and post less Swordy.
    Such secrets are not shared with many Masons.
    The Founders were all Christian with a few Jews and any that were luciferians were keeping it secret and pretending to be Christians, the people they represented were Christian and America was a Christian country. (don't bother bringing up the diplomatic lie told to the N. African muslims)
    Any luciferians were keeping it secret as the upper Masons do and could not establish anything but a Christian nation that they had to hide in.

    Nice try though, I'm sure lucifer is pleased with you.
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  7. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    As I said, it's hard to blame them. The Christian woman should just trust God. He has a plan, for them individually, and all of us collectively. But women bailing from Western culture as it becomes "trans" and going to Islam where they can at least figure out that men are men and women are women... should not be shocking. And every indication is that this trend is only going to accelerate going forward. And where the women go, the culture goes. Their wombs carry the next generation, whether anybody likes it or not.
    No, we will throw the left, muslims, and the renegades out together.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    I wonder if any of these guys are gonna be in the market for Muslim wives (plural) after landing in some formerly-Christian district of the EU...

    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Considering the UK, how many would you consider "a lot"?
    This may shock you, but memes are not reality and less than 7% of the UK is Muslim. In 2011, less than 3% of them were white Brits.

    That's 0.21% of the population.

    And you're having a crisis about it.


    Touch grass.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.



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  11. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Such secrets are not shared with many Masons.
    The Founders were all Christian with a few Jews and any that were luciferians were keeping it secret and pretending to be Christians, the people they represented were Christian and America was a Christian country. (don't bother bringing up the diplomatic lie told to the N. African muslims)
    Any luciferians were keeping it secret as the upper Masons do and could not establish anything but a Christian nation that they had to hide in.

    Nice try though, I'm sure lucifer is pleased with you.
    Just because the U.S. was a Christian country doesn't mean the U.S. as it was founded politically was Christian.

    And I'd like to see a list of which "Founders" you think were Jewish.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    This may shock you, but memes are not reality and less than 7% of the UK is Muslim. In 2011, less than 3% of them were white Brits.

    That's 0.21% of the population.

    And you're having a crisis about it.


    Touch grass.
    In 2001 the total percentage of Muslim population in the UK was 3 percent.

    That more than doubled by 2021 to 7 percent.

    London is no longer a white British majority.

    Invasion and replacement.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    In 2001 the total percentage of Muslim population in the UK was 3 percent.

    That more than doubled by 2021 to 7 percent.

    London is no longer a white British majority.

    Invasion and replacement.
    If the social train is trundling down the tracks just fine, then why is it so important for people to migrate to our country? In other words, if opposing a massive influx of immigrants from Muslim countries means you need to "touch grass", then supporting this self-same influx also means you need to go "touch grass" -- if it's not important, then it's not important. So then, why is it still important??
    Last edited by ClaytonB; 02-05-2024 at 12:40 PM.
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  14. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    In 2001 the total percentage of Muslim population in the UK was 3 percent.

    That more than doubled by 2021 to 7 percent.

    London is no longer a white British majority.

    Invasion and replacement.
    How many Brits have been replaced?

  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Just because the U.S. was a Christian country doesn't mean the U.S. as it was founded politically was Christian.

    And I'd like to see a list of which "Founders" you think were Jewish.
    Haym Solomon, immigrant from Poland, and Jewish. Worked with Robert Morris to keep lines of credit open between France and the colonies. A member of the SOns of Liberty, imprisoned by the British for over a year, helped captured American soldiers escape. Arrested again and sentenced to death, he escaped with his family to Philadelphia. His personal loans and financial administration on behalf of the colonies raised about $640,000 (over $18 million today), including $20,000 to finance Washington’s final push on Yorktown.



    https://www.quora.com/Were-there-any...-United-States


    There were a small number of others, none were in more important positions.


    It absolutely was a Christian country and all its laws were written and interpreted with that in mind.
    There was 0 intent to grant religious freedom to religions which conflicted with Christianity with beliefs like human sacrifice and devil worship, followers of such religions would be lucky if they were merely tarred and feathered.
    The 1stA only restricted Congress in the matter of religion and all of the colonies/states were explicitly Christian with some having officially established sects.
    Last edited by Swordsmyth; 02-06-2024 at 02:30 AM.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  16. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    How many Brits have been replaced?
    In 1971 in London the city was 88 percent white, native British.

    In 2021 that number was down to 36 percent.

    6.5 million in 1971 minus 3.2 million in 2021 equals 3.3 million native white British were displaced and replaced just in London alone in that time.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  17. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    In 1971 in London the city was 88 percent white, native British.

    In 2021 that number was down to 36 percent.

    6.5 million in 1971 minus 3.2 million in 2021 equals 3.3 million native white British were displaced and replaced just in London alone in that time.
    There are more white Brits today than at any previous point in history. That's pretty incredible if point in 3.3 million white Brits were replaced.

    Where are the replaced Brits?
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  18. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Where are the replaced Brits?
    Not in London. Apparently that's some kind of a problem.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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  20. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Not in London. Apparently that's some kind of a problem.
    If it were merely racial (biological), it wouldn't be a problem. The real problem is cultural ... the foreign demographic is largely non-assimilating, and so when they form family or other bonds in the host country, the progeny are no longer part of their own host culture. Stated bluntly: Muslims migrate to Christian countries, take wives (often plural) from those countries and the children they produce are not Christian, they are Muslim. The secular penumbra around this phenomenon is just as destructive, even though it is not nearly as targeted and pernicious as the Muslim demographic warfare. Make no mistake, the Mullahs know exactly what they're doing, and none of this is "just happening". Rather, this is how Islam does "evangelism". It is demographic warfare. "If they will not submit, then breed them out." That is not the action of immigrants seeking blue-sky potential, a fresh-start and a new page, eagerly assimilating and adopting the culture of the host-country where they have found freedom they never had before. That's all just a meme, a mental-fiction running in people's heads that has no basis in actual reality. What is actually occurring is demographic warfare. It is a fifth-column whose time-horizon is about one or two generations, since it takes a little time for the breeding factor to amplify the original migrants.

    My disagreement with most close-the-border-conservatives is that they see this phenomenon purely in isolation, as though the Muslims are coming here for no particular reason, or just because Islam is evil. No, they are coming here because of the judgment of God on us. And it will continue and accelerate for as long as we remain in denial of the true cause of this invasion. If we are remaining faithful to God and taking refuge in Jesus, no Muslim can invade us. But when we are in open rebellion against God, why in the world is God going to defend our borders? Of course he won't. So demographic warfare and Muslim invasion is the inevitable consequence.
    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

  21. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    If it were merely racial (biological), it wouldn't be a problem. The real problem is cultural .
    The predominant culture of the native populations of the UK and USA is not Christian, and in many respects is worse than that of the Muslim immigrants.

    But even if that weren't the case, Christians, who are already destined to be aliens in whichever earthly country they happen to reside, should embrace the opportunity to fulfill the Great Commission afforded by this immigration.
    Last edited by Invisible Man; 02-06-2024 at 03:04 PM.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

  22. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    https://www.quora.com/Were-there-any...-United-States
    It absolutely was a Christian country and all its laws were written and interpreted with that in mind.
    There was 0 intent to grant religious freedom to religions which conflicted with Christianity with beliefs like human sacrifice and devil worship, followers of such religions would be lucky if they were merely tarred and feathered.
    The 1stA only restricted Congress in the matter of religion and all of the colonies/states were explicitly Christian with some having officially established sects.
    The way I see it, they were deficient in establishing a Christian nation, in line with those prior, and that was intentional.
    What they did NOT do, however, was prohibit the composite states from establishing religious preferences.
    I wrote about this earlier in the thread:
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post7211446
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  23. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    The predominant culture of the native populations of the UK and USA is not Christian, and in many respects is worse than that of the Muslim immigrants.
    What in the world are you talking about? Britain has been more or less Christian for more than a thousand years. The United States was explicitly founded on Christian principles and was virtually 100% Christian when it was founded. The proportions have shifted over time but the United States is still a majority Christian country.

    But even if that weren't the case, Christians, who are already destined to be aliens in whichever earthly country they happen to reside, should embrace the opportunity to fulfill the Great Commission afforded by this immigration.
    You're conflating separate issues. The Great Commission goes ahead no matter what happens in politics. But what is right (just, lawful, moral) in political reality and law remains what is right, regardless of the Great Commission. We don't empty the prisons into churches and call it "evangelism". Some missionaries go into prisons as part of church ministry (in obedience to the Great Commission) but they keep the prisoners where prisoners belong: in prison.

    These skip-to-my-lou verbal fnords you keep throwing out wouldn't work on 3rd-graders, why do you insult people's intelligence like that?! The Internet has become an absolute cesspool...
    Last edited by ClaytonB; 02-06-2024 at 04:18 PM.
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  24. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    What in the world are you talking about? Britain has been more or less Christian for more than a thousand years.
    Definitely less.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    The United States was explicitly founded on Christian principles and was virtually 100% Christian when it was founded. The proportions have shifted over time but the United States is still a majority Christian country.
    Being nominally Christian and having a Christian culture are not the same thing. And statism (the most central principle on which the USA was explicitly founded) is diametrically opposed to Christianity.


    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    But what is right (just, lawful, moral) in political reality and law remains what is right, regardless of the Great Commission.
    Justice does not demand the restriction of immigration.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

  25. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Definitely less.
    Definitely not less. Constantine had barely made Christianity legal in Rome proper before Christianity was already spreading in the British isles. While paganism would not be stamped out per force until several centuries later, the British isles were well ahead of the Northern Europeans in adopting the Christian faith. As the Gospel swept through Europe, it stamped out paganism everywhere it went, just as it would later do in South America, and has done to almost the whole world today.

    Being nominally Christian and having a Christian culture are not the same thing.
    Your original claim was that, "The predominant culture of the native populations of the UK and USA is not Christian" which is absurd. It's the dumbest thing I've read all week and I read a lot stupidity since there's little else on the Internet these days. There isn't even the faintest patina of truth in what you've written. Cite it or get out.

    And statism (the most central principle on which the USA was explicitly founded) is diametrically opposed to Christianity.
    No, statism is not the "most central principle on which the USA was explicitly founded". Once again, cite it or get out. Since it's so explicit, it should be easy to cite!
    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

  26. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Your original claim was that, "The predominant culture of the native populations of the UK and USA is not Christian" which is absurd. It's the dumbest thing I've read all week and I read a lot stupidity since there's little else on the Internet these days. There isn't even the faintest patina of truth in what you've written. Cite it or get out.
    Cite it or get out? Dude. He did cite his opinion. He has a right to cite his opinion. He doesn't have to get out.

    What's more, I agree that what the UK does these days is a piss poor imitation of Christianity, and the vast majority of the U.S. also does a piss poor job of walking with God.

    Don't yell at people just because you don't understand their point.

  27. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Cite it or get out? Dude. He did cite his opinion. He has a right to cite his opinion. He doesn't have to get out.
    "Get out" being figurative for stop spouting nonsense. There was a time when people were ashamed to state naked falsehoods, even mistakenly. That's the way that real "fact-checking" worked back when American men still had measurable levels of testosterone.

    What's more, I agree that what the UK does these days is a piss poor imitation of Christianity, and the vast majority of the U.S. also does a piss poor job of walking with God.
    Agree with who? The man in the Moon? That has nothing to do with what he claimed: "The predominant culture of the native populations of the UK and USA is not Christian".

    Don't yell at people just because you don't understand their point.
    Your opinion has been duly noted and ignored as irrelevant.
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  29. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Your opinion has been duly noted and ignored as irrelevant.
    Good. Thank you for not yelling about it.

  30. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Not in London. Apparently that's some kind of a problem.
    Clearly we should crowd fund a move to NYC for AF so that he can combat replacement by living there. I'll chip in.
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  31. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Not in London. Apparently that's some kind of a problem.
    Yes, it is, but not to you.

    You are in league with the Marxists, you hate it all and want to burn it down, like an addled infant who cannot figure out his toy and breaks it out spite and frustration.

    Justice does not demand the restriction of immigration.
    It is not immigration, it is an invasion.

    You are in favor of it because you are a Marxist wrecker.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  32. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Clearly we should crowd fund a move to NYC for AF so that he can combat replacement by living there. I'll chip in.
    It may surprise you to know that I already have lived there.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  33. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    It may surprise you to know that I already have lived there.
    That only makes the joke funnier
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  34. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Definitely not less. Constantine had barely made Christianity legal in Rome proper before Christianity was already spreading in the British isles.
    You're talking about the 4th century?

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    As the Gospel swept through Europe, it stamped out paganism everywhere it went, just as it would later do in South America, and has done to almost the whole world today.
    As you can see in the painting that adorns the Capitol Rotunda, paganism is alive and well in the USA.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Your original claim was that, "The predominant culture of the native populations of the UK and USA is not Christian" which is absurd. It's the dumbest thing I've read all week and I read a lot stupidity since there's little else on the Internet these days. There isn't even the faintest patina of truth in what you've written. Cite it or get out.
    What are you asking me to cite here? A description of the cultures that predominate in the USA and UK, pointing out how they deviate from Christianity? The only explanation for your disputing this claim is that you have a definition for Christianity that I don't recognize.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    No, statism is not the "most central principle on which the USA was explicitly founded". Once again, cite it or get out. Since it's so explicit, it should be easy to cite!
    "...in order to form a more perfect union."
    Last edited by Invisible Man; 02-07-2024 at 07:59 AM.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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