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    Post Trump: If you spill a drop of American blood, we will spill a gallon of yours

    Trump Campaign had a released ad.

    Trump's Campaign least TV ad doesn't seem it would generate anti war crowd.

    It does look it would generate the Hawkish crowd at the Republican party.


    Trump: If you spill a drop of American blood, we will spill a gallon of yours



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    Meanwhile...

    https://twitter.com/ClownWorld_/stat...95569534771418

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    Trump is really our man to do whatever it takes ... to take in the bribes and kickbacks.
    All to make America great again of course!


    The Trump Organization, Ivanka Trump in particular, was in business with the Baku XXI Century of the Azerbaijani Mammadov family since 2008. The Mammadovs were in turn business partners of the Iranian construction company Azarpassillo of Keyumars Darvishi (since about 2008).

    Anar Mammadov lives in London and considers Ivanka Trump a “dear friend” (see them together).


    Azarpassillo’s chairman, Keyumars Darvishi, became the head of Raman after he fought in the Iran-Iraq War. Raman is an Iranian construction firm, controlled by the Revolutionary Guard (that was controlled by Soleimani).

    At least 2 of Keyumars’s brothers — Habil and Kamal Keyumars — were (are) also associates of the Revolutionary Guard. Ziya Mammadov conspired with the Revolutionary Guard to make overpriced deals that would enrich them both while using shell companies to launder the money and circumvent sanctions against Iran.

    Trump spokesman Alan Garten admitted that the Trump Organization learned in 2015 about “the possibility” that the Mammadovs had ties to the Revolutionary Guard, but the company didn’t end the Baku deal until December 2016 (after Trump was elected US president): http://archive.is/9pqcZ


    Azerbaijani partners in crime of US president Donald Trump since 2012, in a project to build a Trump Tower in Baku, also appear in the Laundromat scheme.
    The $35 million project was controlled by Baku XXI Century of Elton and Anar Mammadov, the brother and son of the country's transport minister Ziya Mammadov. They hold seats in parliament and have ties to Azerbaijani President Aliyev.
    The Mammadovs’ Baghlan holding company is linked to Laundromat transactions.

    Ziya also has connections to Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard and with Iraq-Iran war veteran Keyumars Davishi, the chairman of a company which Mammadov awarded transportation contracts to in 2008.
    In February 2017, defense and intelligence officials warned the White House against designating Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organisation.

    Anar founded The Azerbaijan American Alliance. Between 2011 and 2015, he spent almost $13 million for lobbying in the US.

    In October 2014, Ivanka Trump toured Trump Tower Baku that was scheduled to open in 2015. Ivanka wrote that she had “overseen” the project. For some reason the hotel never opened despite being almost completed.
    In December 2016, before he was inaugurated, Trump cut his connection with the project: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...deal-ever.html
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    How about we bring all our troops home so that none of them can have their blood spilled?
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    Trump is really our man to do whatever it takes ... to take in the bribes and kickbacks.
    All to make America great again of course!


    The Trump Organization, Ivanka Trump in particular, was in business with the Baku XXI Century of the Azerbaijani Mammadov family since 2008. The Mammadovs were in turn business partners of the Iranian construction company Azarpassillo of Keyumars Darvishi (since about 2008).

    Anar Mammadov lives in London and considers Ivanka Trump a “dear friend” (see them together).


    Azarpassillo’s chairman, Keyumars Darvishi, became the head of Raman after he fought in the Iran-Iraq War. Raman is an Iranian construction firm, controlled by the Revolutionary Guard (that was controlled by Soleimani).

    At least 2 of Keyumars’s brothers — Habil and Kamal Keyumars — were (are) also associates of the Revolutionary Guard. Ziya Mammadov conspired with the Revolutionary Guard to make overpriced deals that would enrich them both while using shell companies to launder the money and circumvent sanctions against Iran.

    Trump spokesman Alan Garten admitted that the Trump Organization learned in 2015 about “the possibility” that the Mammadovs had ties to the Revolutionary Guard, but the company didn’t end the Baku deal until December 2016 (after Trump was elected US president): http://archive.is/9pqcZ


    Azerbaijani partners in crime of US president Donald Trump since 2012, in a project to build a Trump Tower in Baku, also appear in the Laundromat scheme.
    The $35 million project was controlled by Baku XXI Century of Elton and Anar Mammadov, the brother and son of the country's transport minister Ziya Mammadov. They hold seats in parliament and have ties to Azerbaijani President Aliyev.
    The Mammadovs’ Baghlan holding company is linked to Laundromat transactions.

    Ziya also has connections to Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard and with Iraq-Iran war veteran Keyumars Davishi, the chairman of a company which Mammadov awarded transportation contracts to in 2008.
    In February 2017, defense and intelligence officials warned the White House against designating Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organisation.

    Anar founded The Azerbaijan American Alliance. Between 2011 and 2015, he spent almost $13 million for lobbying in the US.

    In October 2014, Ivanka Trump toured Trump Tower Baku that was scheduled to open in 2015. Ivanka wrote that she had “overseen” the project. For some reason the hotel never opened despite being almost completed.
    In December 2016, before he was inaugurated, Trump cut his connection with the project: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...deal-ever.html
    Damn you for actually digging deeper and following the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    How about we bring all our troops home so that none of them can have their blood spilled?
    This is the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    This is the way
    So you finally decided you're voting for Trump?
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    seems like leading in the polls was too much for trump and now he is trying to get biden re elected
    Do something Danke



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    So you finally decided you're voting for Trump?
    Trump will draft your ass and send you to Israel. Will you still love him that morning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    So you finally decided you're voting for Trump?
    Is this when we pretend to forget that Trump repeatedly sent more troops to the middle east, with Iran as the excuse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Trump will draft your ass and send you to Israel. Will you still love him that morning?
    If Tim Pool says so.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Trump will draft your ass and send you to Israel. Will you still love him that morning?
    He's LITERALLY Hitler
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    So you finally decided you're voting for Trump?
    Trump just stated he wants to fight a war with american forces in Israel. Using what twisted logic is that bringing our troops home and out of harm's way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Trump just stated he wants to fight a war with american forces in Israel. Using what twisted logic is that bringing our troops home and out of harm's way?
    By that logic, Ron Paul supported a war in Afghanistan.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Trump: If you spill a drop of American blood, we will spill a gallon of yours
    Interesting issue. In practice, "Peace thru strength" certainly seems to be a real world phenomenon. On the other hand, there is the "speak softly and carry a big stick" strategy.

    Unfortunately, in the US, we have the neocon philosophy of "Speak loudly, and use the stick at every opportunity. Never let a tragedy go to waste". Trump seems to be of the mind that speaking loudly is imperative, but doesn't seem as driven to use the MIC/neocon stick for extended periods and at every opportunity. A dilema?

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Trump will draft your ass and send you to Israel. Will you still love him that morning?
    A draft would certainly make the various pro-war factions finally think twice (again) about supporting war (fought by someone else).
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 11-11-2023 at 10:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Is this when we pretend to forget that Trump repeatedly sent more troops to the middle east, with Iran as the excuse?
    This is where we remember he brought most of them home and tried to bring more home.

    That combined with the sentiment he just expressed is how you get peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Trump just stated he wants to fight a war with american forces in Israel.
    Trump says everything, and means less than half of it. We're supposed to disbelieve half of it. We're supposed to believe heart and soul that he will keep the promises we like, and believe no matter what really happened that he kept them. And we're supposed to believe the promises he made that we don't like were 3D chess, and he didn't keep them--not even the ones he kept.

    They both learned eight years ago that we're not that, um, let's call it cooperative. But like liberals, these other partisans just can't stop whining that we won't eat the bull$#@! with them.

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    He's LITERALLY Hitler
    You LITERALLY wouldn't notice if he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    This is where we remember he brought most of them home and tried to bring more home.
    Most of what? He didn't even get back down to the numbers we were at when he entered office.


    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That combined with the sentiment he just expressed is how you get peace.

    It takes a special kind of sycophant to parrot "war is peace" for the president whose pace of drone strikes would make Obama blush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    Trump is really our man to do whatever it takes ... to take in the bribes and kickbacks.
    All to make America great again of course!


    The Trump Organization, Ivanka Trump in particular, was in business with the Baku XXI Century of the Azerbaijani Mammadov family since 2008. The Mammadovs were in turn business partners of the Iranian construction company Azarpassillo of Keyumars Darvishi (since about 2008).

    Anar Mammadov lives in London and considers Ivanka Trump a “dear friend” (see them together).[/URL]
    They are all of a certain background.

    Sep 4, 2017
    Azerbaijan's ruling elite operated a secret $2.9bn (£2.2bn) scheme to pay prominent Europeans, buy luxury goods and launder money through a network of opaque British companies, an investigation by..(cut)

    Business partners of the US president, Donald Trump, in a project to build a luxury Trump Tower in Baku also appear in the Laundromat scheme.

    The hotel’s local developer was Anar Mammadov, the billionaire son of Azerbaijan’s ex-transport minister Ziya Mammadov. At the time the scheme operated, the Mammadovs...(cut)

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...obbying-scheme

    Etgar Lefkovits. March 8, 2023. Azerbaijan's ambassador-designate to Israel Mukhtar Mammadov met last week in Jerusalem with Malcolm Hoenlein, the vice chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, Israeli officials said on Wednesday.,(cut) .

    https://www.jns.org/azerbaijans-new-...-in-jerusalem/

    The family's wealth stems from Ziya Mammadov's political connections to the Azerbaijani regime, which has been characterized as one of the world's most corrupt.
    Wikipedia (Anar Mammadov)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anar_Mammadov

    Ziya Mammadov was described in March 2009 in leaked U.S. diplomatic cables as "notoriously corrupt, even for Azerbaijan"
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...aundering-ties

    Mammdovs denied a Haaretz report that they invested 600 million in Israeli properties but remember they are from a majority Muslim country so it's politically scandalous

    http://www.iolr.org/?p=15845&lang=en

    https://ovqat-com.translate.goog/man..._x_tr_pto=wapp

    A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from the Russian Empire - Mamutov

    Mamedov or Mammadov (Azerbaijani: Məmmədov, Russian: Мамедов)

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    'Most people think I'm Jewish anyway,' Trump reportedly told his future son-in-law
    https://forward.com/news/512645/kush...anyahu-israel/

    Mr. Fred Trump donated the plot of land where the synagogue was built and contributed towards the construction. He then attended the dinner every year and generously donated to the Beach Haven Jewish Center. He affectionately referred to Rabbi Wagner as 'My Rabbi' at their yearly meetings
    https://www.israelhayom.com/2020/10/...sh-connection/

    Trump's Older Brother Fred Joined a Jewish Fraternity
    https://forward.com/news/346731/trum...joining-a-jew/

    Did you know Fred Trump (President Trump’s father) donated land for the “Talmud Torah of Beach Haven Jewish Center” in New York City?

    https://www.jewworldorder.org/commen...ump-is-jewish/

    Donald Trump's Jewish ancestry
    pdf
    http://mileswmathis.com/trump.pdf
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  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    By that logic, Ron Paul supported a war in Afghanistan.
    What? Ron Paul did support the war in Afghanistan. He voted for the AUMF. From what I recall he later regretted it.

  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    By that logic, Ron Paul supported a war in Afghanistan.
    What in the hell are you talking about?
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    This is where we remember he brought most of them home and tried to bring more home.

    That combined with the sentiment he just expressed is how you get peace.
    Hate to spoil your Trump slobberfest again but some of us were actually in the Middle East and watching troop concentrations as they moved into Syria to establish more prescence. Trump helped set that up. But continue with the horse$#@!.
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    They are all of a certain background.
    I guess you're not talking about that they're all completely corrupt...


    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Etgar Lefkovits. March 8, 2023. Azerbaijan's ambassador-designate to Israel Mukhtar Mammadov met last week in Jerusalem with Malcolm Hoenlein, the vice chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, Israeli officials said on Wednesday.,(cut) .
    So they were in business with the Islamic extremist Iran Revolutionairy Guard, Trump, and also making a deal with a major American Jewish organisation.
    According to the official tale they discussed horrible Iran (but maybe they also discussed Levant gas?)....


    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Mammdovs denied a Haaretz report that they invested 600 million in Israeli properties but remember they are from a majority Muslim country so it's politically scandalous.
    No need to check of course, let's believe what they tell us...


    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    'Most people think I'm Jewish anyway,' Trump reportedly told his future son-in-law
    https://forward.com/news/512645/kush...anyahu-israel/

    Mr. Fred Trump donated the plot of land where the synagogue was built and contributed towards the construction. He then attended the dinner every year and generously donated to the Beach Haven Jewish Center. He affectionately referred to Rabbi Wagner as 'My Rabbi' at their yearly meetings
    https://www.israelhayom.com/2020/10/...sh-connection/

    Trump's Older Brother Fred Joined a Jewish Fraternity
    https://forward.com/news/346731/trum...joining-a-jew/

    Did you know Fred Trump (President Trump’s father) donated land for the “Talmud Torah of Beach Haven Jewish Center” in New York City?

    https://www.jewworldorder.org/commen...ump-is-jewish/

    Donald Trump's Jewish ancestry
    pdf
    http://mileswmathis.com/trump.pdf
    I knew about some of the Jewish links of Donald and his father Fred (I can also vaguely remember something about Donald's grandfather).

    I'll ignore the Miles Mathis link. That's Mathis who claims that just about any celebrity that died young, faked their death, and went into hiding; and that just about any famous person is really a Jew.

    Mathis never provides any good "evidence" for these wild claims...
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  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    What in the hell are you talking about?
    I'm saying it's really bad logic?

    Letters of Marque and Reprisal, which is what Ron Paul advocated for Bin Laden, are pretty similar to getting American hostages in Israel.
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    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    seems like leading in the polls was too much for trump and now he is trying to get biden re elected
    Wouldn't shock me if Trump actually wants the Democrats to be reelected since he's helping them destroy the country.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Letters of Marque and Reprisal, which is what Ron Paul advocated for Bin Laden, are pretty similar to getting American hostages in Israel.
    Yes, I'm sure that Trump knows all about letters of marque.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    Hate to spoil your Trump slobberfest again but some of us were actually in the Middle East and watching troop concentrations as they moved into Syria to establish more prescence. Trump helped set that up. But continue with the horse$#@!.
    Trump also ordered a withdrawal from Syria while also drawing down troops all over the world.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  32. #28
    "Trump also ordered a withdrawal from Syria while also drawing down troops all over the world."

    Yet we are still there & taking their oil.

    Never falling for the Trump running the mouth routine..again

    His latest ad is psychopathic.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post

    I'll ignore the Miles Mathis link. {cut}

    Mathis never provides any good "evidence" for these wild claims...
    I don't think it's intellectually honest of you to refuse to read his analysis, then say he doesn't provide evidence in this case.

    Back in 2019, I myself looked into this question, and arrived at the conclusion that the subject was, at minimum, one-quarter.

    I will share you a link in PM only if you want it. Enough is enough.
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    "Trump also ordered a withdrawal from Syria while also drawing down troops all over the world."

    Yet we are still there & taking their oil.

    Never falling for the Trump running the mouth routine..again

    His latest ad is psychopathic.
    The deepstate defied him.
    They would not have obeyed Ron Paul or anyone else you prefer.
    And only a fool would think this statement was psychopathic, that is the message that you send in order to prevent wars.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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