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    US government vs. "antisemitism"

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://twitter.com/NikkiHaley/statu...25248608784498
    {Nikki Haley @NikkiHaley | 26 October 2023}

    You can’t fight antisemitism if you can’t define it. Joe Biden and the Left refuse to call anti-Zionism antisemitism.

    As president I will change the official federal definition of antisemitism to include denying Israel’s right to exist, and I will pull schools’ tax exemption status if they do not combat antisemitism in all of its forms – in accordance with federal law.

    College campuses are allowed to have free speech, but they are not free to spread hate that supports terrorism. Federal law requires schools to combat antisemitism. We will give this law teeth and we will enforce it.

    The United States of America will not use taxpayer dollars to fund antisemitism. Period.

    The Oct. 7 massacre and the ensuing weeks have proven what many of us have long known: There is no difference between anti-Zionism and antisemitism.

    In order to combat antisemitism, we have to define it, and that starts at the top.
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  3. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki Haley
    The United States of America will not use taxpayer dollars to fund antisemitism. Period.
    It shouldn't be using taxpayer dollars to fund prosemitism, either, you braying jackass.

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    https://twitter.com/davincentjames/s...15446894211367

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    Criticizing ISRAEL’S Government IS NOT ANTI-SEMITIC
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShtFaPBUBj4
    {Jack Hunter | 26 October 2023}

    Criticizing government policy doesn’t make you hateful - even for Israel.


  7. #6
    I wonder what Ms Haley would like to do to these folks.



    https://twitter.com/TorahJudaism/sta...81209812099399

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    No it is not. The thruth is the government of Israel uses the sympathy felt for the genocide commited against the Jews in WW2 to commit genocide against the Palestinians. Opposition to the war crimes of the Israeli goverment isn't hatred of Jews or support of Hamas. It's so easy to fall into the trap of name calling, blaming or "picking a side".

  9. #8
    "Zionism" is a political ideology.

    "Semitism" is relating to the peoples who speak Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic.

    These terms aren't related.
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    https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/1717936790840230196
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    https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/1717939301680636328
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  13. #11
    Nikki Haley is a psychopath.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  14. #12
    There are two kinds of Zionism. There is Zionism as we know it, which is really an attempt by humans to fulfill the promises of God on their own might, in God's place, while denying God's Messiah, who is Jesus. This false Zionism is doomed. It does not even need to be "opposed" by a "movement" because it is ultimately God who is opposing it.

    Then there is God's Zionism, which is all about faith in Jesus. Ultimately, God is going to fulfill all the promises he made to Abraham and his descendants, Aaron and his descendants, to the Levites, to David and his descendants. That these promises are genealogical is significant, even though the Gospel is spiritual, because Jesus is both fully man and fully God. His genealogy matters, and his genealogy includes the genealogies of these others (and the promises God made to them). It is Jesus himself who will fulfill them, and it is around him that God's Zion will be rebuilt, not only spiritually in our hearts (the church Age), but materially, as a part of our daily lives in the next Age. This is not an abstraction and the headlines we read today emphasize this point. There is nothing abstract about the developing ME conflict, and the rising threat of global war. God's Zion is going to obliterate the false Zion which the wicked have constructed to bring about their evil plans, Daniel 2:44,45.
    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

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    STFU bitch
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

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    https://twitter.com/SystemUpdate_/st...70173410386407
    Not to be outdone, @NikkiHaley stepped in to promise that as president, she would change the official federal definition of antisemitism to include anti-Zionism. In other words, under her regime, questioning Israel’s right to exist could bring Federal reprobation to your college campus.

    *Note: You’re still more than free to question Palestine’s existence.

    **Note 2: The “It’s not free speech it’s hate speech” argument is one the right *used* to mock.

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    She must be getting paid a lot of money by Israel to continue sucking them off.
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    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statu...41827703697459
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statu...41827703697459
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 11-03-2023 at 03:53 AM.

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    Massie casts the only "no" vote against "Anti-Zionism = Antisemitism" resolution

    Rep. Massie Casts Lone No Vote Against Bill Equating Anti-Zionism With Antisemitism
    The resolution, which passed in a vote of 412-1, says denying the modern state of Israel's 'right to exist' is antisemitism
    https://news.antiwar.com/2023/11/28/...-antisemitism/
    {Dave DeCamp | 28 November 2023}

    Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) was the lone member of the House to vote against a resolution equating criticism of the modern state of Israel with antisemitism.

    The resolution passed in a vote of 412-1-1, as Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) voted "present." The bill states that the House "reaffirms the State of Israel has the right to exist" and "recognizes that denying Israel's right to exist is a form of antisemitism."

    Massie explained his opposition in a post on X. "I agree with the title 'Reaffirming the State of Israel's Right to Exist' and much of the language, but I'm voting No on the resolution because it equates anti-Zionism with antisemitism. Antisemitism is deplorable, but expanding it to include criticism of Israel is not helpful," he wrote.

    Tlaib said she didn't vote in favor of the resolution because it "ignores the existence of the Palestinian people" and "brings us no closer to peaceful coexistence." The resolution states that Jewish people are "native to the Land of Israel" without mentioning that the modern state was founded mainly by recently emigrated Jewish Europeans who drove over 700,000 native Palestinian Arabs out of the land in 1948.

    Massie has voted against other Israel-related legislation, including a bill to give Israel $14.3 billion more in military aid to support its war in Gaza. For his position, Massie has been targeted by the Israel lobby.

    "Why does Israel historically get more foreign aid than any other country? Because they have the most aggressive lobbyists working for them. I voted NOT to send another $14.3 billion overseas, so now they're running ads on radio, TV, and facebook. I won't vote to give them your $," Massie wrote on X on November 16.
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 05-02-2024 at 10:55 AM. Reason: Fixed text problems.

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    Time to donate to Massie again.
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    Thomas Massie Stands for Free Speech, Even When He Stands Alone
    by TJ Roberts | Nov 22, 2023

    On Monday, Thomas Massie was the lone Republican in Congress to vote NAY on Amendment 114 to H.R. 5894, the Appropriations bill for Labor, HHS, and Education Spending. The Amendment, introduced by New York RINO Mike Lawler, prohibits any federal funds from going to any university “that authorizes … any event that promotes antisemitism.” While Thomas Massie has been an adamant supporter of cutting education spending, going so far as to introduce legislation to abolish the Department of Education, one’s Commitment to the Constitution must come first.

    One may immediately think that no one has the right to government funding for their speech, but that would better support Rep. Massie’s bill to abolish the Department of Education, not Lawler’s Amendment. But the government cannot give money to messages with which they agree and then deny funding to messages with which they disagree.

    In 1987, the Supreme Court outlined the limit of Congress’ Spending power, their ability to appropriate funds, in South Dakota v. Dole, 483 US 283 (1987). In Dole, the Court held, in part, that the federal government cannot condition funding upon policies that would violate separate provisions of the Constitution. Dole, 483 US at 310 (holding the Spending Power “may not be used to induce the States to engage in activities that would themselves be unconstitutional”). This is known as the “Independent Constitutional Bar” restriction on the Spending Power. This ensures that Congress cannot use the power of the purse to trample upon your rights. This doctrine is the reason why Congress cannot ban funds from going to states that allow you to own a firearm, because coercing a state to ban guns would be a clear attempt to violate the Second Amendment.

    Likewise, coercing government universities, which are state actors, to ban antisemitism would be a violation of the First Amendment, thus causing Amendment 114 to run afoul of the Independent Constitutional Bar. Justice Sam Alito puts it perfectly: “Speech that demeans on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, religion, age, disability, or any other similar ground is hateful; but the proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to express ‘the thought that we hate.’” Matal v. Tam, 582 US 218, 246 (2017) (quoting United States v. Schwimmer, 279 US 644, 655 (1929) (Holmes, J., dissenting)). Matal v. Tam was a UNANIMOUS Supreme Court decision holding that there is no hate speech exception to the First Amendment.

    At the end of the day, even the most horrific speech must be protected. The Supreme Court knew this when they allowed actual Nazis to march through a Jewish neighborhood. National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, ​​432 US 43 (1977). The Court knew this when they protected the right of the Westboro Baptist Church to picket outside a fallen soldier’s funeral because he was Catholic. Snyder v. Phelps, 562 US 443 (2011). If we only protect free speech when we agree with it, we are not protecting free speech; we are protecting the viewpoints with which we agree.

    But the First Amendment’s protection of antisemites, neo-Nazis, and other hateful people is the same protection that protects people who lovingly preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and give free hugs and the expression of your viewpoint… even if you disagree with this article. We can disagree with the antisemitism Amendment 114 attempts to address, but we cannot violate the Constitution in our disagreement. As Rep. Massie puts it: “Protecting free speech means protecting speech you don’t like, even if it opens you up to criticism.”

    The Supreme Court has applied this logic to college campuses too. In Rosenberger v. Rector and Visitors of the University of Virginia, the Supreme Court held that the University of Virginia Violated the First Amendment when it refused funding to Rosenberger’s Christian Ministry while giving funds to groups expressing other viewpoints. 515 US 819 (1995). As mentioned previously, Congress could defund the universities in their entirety, but they cannot condition their funding on a university banning a particular viewpoint. Therein lies censorship.

    As Ron Paul Institute Executive Director Daniel McAdams observed, “‘Cancel Culture’ is not just a left-wing phenomenon. Rep. Lawler is plainly attempting to use the force of the Federal Government to solicit state entities – public universities which are known for discriminating against Christian, conservative, and libertarian students – to violate the free speech rights of individuals. If Lawler had defunded all public universities regardless of the viewpoints of their students, this would have been a perfectly constitutional provision. That is not what he did. One must never disregard the Constitution, even if it gets in the way of their desired outcomes. Thank you for keeping your oath, Rep. Massie.
    ...
    https://ronpaulinstitute.org/thomas-...-stands-alone/
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  24. #21
    Somebody should inform these guys...





    From a recent pro-Gaza protest:

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    One thing is certain the congress are no longer standing for the people.
    Just lobby interest groups.

    The problem with this resolution that means no one cant debate the fate of Syria's Golan Heights.

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    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...95661810061522


  27. #24

    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...48800233234797
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/1732165094354702481
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  30. #26
    A couple of thoughts, for the record:

    Zionism is the belief that the Jewish people have the right to a state in their historic and spiritual homeland of Israel.
    But ethnic Caucasian Christians do not have that same right.

    Massie posted the meme as the House was holding hearings about antisemitism on college campuses, which has flared since the Palestinian terror group Hamas carried out a devastating terror attack against Israel on October 7 that killed 1,200 people.
    Jews have played a dominant role in turning American universities, the American press and the American entertainment and sportsball complexes, into, literally, the staging ground for Marxist revolution and recruitment in the US and of importing by the millions, hostile invaders from nations and countries that are our enemies.

    You do not get to create a golem and then whine that it is biting your own ass.

    Let me be clear: I do not give a frog's fat ass about the latest entry in the never ending war over those miserable pieces of $#@!hole desert.

    The diasporas of both Arabia and Israel, living in the West, have openly stated, innumerable times, that they want and are working for, the utter destruction of white, western, Christian civilization.

    $#@! you.

    AND $#@! you too.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 12-05-2023 at 04:53 PM.
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  31. #27
    Brietbart lands on Massie with both feet.

    Rep. Thomas Massie Posts Antisemitic Meme Claiming Congress Chooses ‘Zionism’ over ‘American Patriotism’

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...an-patriotism/

    JOEL B. POLLAK 5 Dec 2023



    Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) posted an antisemitic meme on X (formerly known as Twitter) on Tuesday, claiming that “Congress these days” had rejected “American Patriotism” in favor of “Zionism.”

    The meme, which borrows images from the video for “Hotline Bling” by Drake, is commonly used to mock hypocrisy.

    The idea that “Zionism” and “American Patriotism” are contradictory is a common theme on the antisemitic far-right.

    Zionism is the belief that the Jewish people have the right to a state in their historic and spiritual homeland of Israel. Since the late 19th century, antisemites have used the idea of “Zion” to suggest Jewish control and manipulation of world governments.

    That, for example, is the theme of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, an antisemitic forgery distributed by the Russian imperial state that spread throughout Europe before the Nazi era, and which remains widely distributed in the Arab world today.

    American leaders throughout history have supported the idea of a Jewish state, going back to President John Adams, who was an ardent “restorationist,” believing that a Jewish republic should emerge in the Middle East. Many Americans today support the modern State of Israel.

    Massie posted the meme as the House was holding hearings about antisemitism on college campuses, which has flared since the Palestinian terror group Hamas carried out a devastating terror attack against Israel on October 7 that killed 1,200 people.

    Massie has been under attack from pro-Israel groups after voting against funding for Israel, ostensibly on budgetary and foreign policy grounds. He appears to have taken that argument to a completely different place with his antisemitic post.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Brietbart lands on Massie with both feet.

    Rep. Thomas Massie Posts Antisemitic Meme Claiming Congress Chooses ‘Zionism’ over ‘American Patriotism’

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...an-patriotism/

    JOEL B. POLLAK 5 Dec 2023
    ...
    Pollack didn't fair too well...


    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...61822766268662
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Pollack didn't fair too well...


    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...61822766268662
    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...38543838282215

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    And now Pollak is getting another ass-whopping on X...
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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