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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Who put them there? What are they supposed to do about it?
    I think you just saw what they are going to do about it when presented with no alternative.



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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    I agree Kidnapping children should be a crime where was Ramaswamy when Israel was arresting Palestinian children before the conflict in Gaza?
    ‘Terrorising a generation’: Israel arresting Palestinian children
    Blowing up houses and apartment buildings with fighter jets isn't also a war crime? People are so blind to what the Israelies are doing. They are no better than Hamas.

  4. #63
    It appears that the festival was produced by an Israeli promoter, who licensed an international festival name...

    Counter to much reporting, it had nothing to do with being a "peace" festival, other than the standard trance music happy horse$#@!. Modern hippies.

    Universo Paralello, which took place Oct. 6-7, is a festival that originated in the Brazilian state of Bahia and is focused on psytrance, a high-BPM form of trance music that has long been one of the most popular forms of electronic music in Israel.

    The Israeli version of Paralello Universo, called Supernova Sukkot Gathering after the Jewish holiday, released this statement on Instagram earlier on Sunday (Oct. 8): “The Nova tribe is shocked and pained. We support and participate in the grief of the families of the missing and murdered. We are doing everything we can to assist the security forces, standing by. They are in continuous contact and are located in the field during scans and searches in order to locate the missing.”
    ...
    The lineup featured psytrance producers from countries including Brazil, Spain, Japan and Mexico, with performers Aladin, Artifex, Astral Projection, Flare Jackalon, Jumpstreet, Kido, LIbra, Man With No Name, Noface, Protanica, Rocky Tilbor, Shove, Spectra Sonics, Swarup, Wegha. Billboard reached out for comment from multiple DJs on the lineup but did not immediately receive responses.

    Universo Paralello has been happening in Brazil for nearly two decades. The festival was co-founded by Juarez Petrillo, a longstanding producer and promoter and the father of the globally known producer Alok.

    Earlier on Sunday, Alok released a statement regarding his father’s presence at the Israeli event. Petrillo was on the lineup performing under his DJ name, Swarup.

    “As many of you know, my father was in one of the invaded locations, and concerning his involvement in the event, he is not the organizer,” Alok’s statement reads. “My father was HIRED to perform at an event that licensed the rights to use the festival’s name, as has happened in several other countries before. The Israeli producer licensed the use of the brand and independently organized the event, with my father being one of the attractions.”
    ...
    https://www.billboard.com/music/musi...hs-1235436712/
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  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    An interesting theory...






    https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status...24093878604061
    The timing for expanding the US Budget is reason enough they will spend TRILLIONS more.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    If Hezbollah thinks they will invade from the North, they better plan on getting hit by the US Navy.
    Ford carrier strike group en route now.

    US presence on the way has a chance to cool this off rather than heat it up.
    IDK, maybe Iran emboldens Hamas and also shuts down the Strait of Hormuz.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    IDK, maybe Iran emboldens Hamas and also shuts down the Strait of Hormuz.
    That isn't the threat it used to be. We now have enough domestic oil production capacity to basically say oh well if they do. Sure it's a bit more costly but they can't threaten us with no oil anymore.

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    That isn't the threat it used to be. We now have enough domestic oil production capacity to basically say oh well if they do. Sure it's a bit more costly but they can't threaten us with no oil anymore.
    Restricting the global oil supply does nothing but play directly into the hands of the woke WEF globalists. They would love for Iran to do something that restricts supply.
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  10. #68
    Israel At War | Part Of The Problem 1043
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X54kfsIFuEE
    {Dave Smith | 08 October 2023}

    On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave and Robbie talk about the horrendous attacks on Israel, the policies that led too it, and then we take a look at the landscape for the upcoming 2024 election.

    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 10-11-2023 at 04:33 PM.

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Restricting the global oil supply does nothing but play directly into the hands of the woke WEF globalists. They would love for Iran to do something that restricts supply.
    So? Not our problem here in the US.

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    So? Not our problem here in the US.
    As long as war with Iran is not an issue for you. And while the woke WEF tools are running Amerika, they wouldn't increase production here.
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  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    As long as war with Iran is not an issue for you. And while the woke WEF tools are running Amerika, they wouldn't increase production here.
    There is never going to be a hot shooting war with Iran. That has been an idle threat since the 70's. There will be more proxy wars.

    If cheap foreign supply dries up, domestic production will ramp up. You give more power to the woke greenies than they deserve. When the average people in the US can't get fuel for their cars they will demand production increase. If they don't get it they will vote out the ones keeping it from them.

  14. #72
    https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/stat...88336237883434

    Laura Loomer @LauraLoomer

    There is no such thing as Palestine. It’s always been a figment of the imagination of Islamic terrorists and Jew haters. Israel belongs to the Jews .

    For the sake of humanity and what is righteous and good in the war on evil, Israel must level GAZA, flatten it into a parking lot, and then glass it.

    The one state solution doesn’t include a world or a scenario where Israelis can coexist with HAMAS ANIMALS and their sympathizers. They must be shown through IDF force that they don’t exist, and their pretend homeland doesn’t exist. We will not recognize these animals and the entire world must unite in rejecting them and denying them any sense of dignity.

    There is no reasoning with Islamic terrorists.

    Every single HAMAS terrorist and terror sympathizer must be killed by the @IDF.

    IDF can give 24 hours to women and children so they can evacuate, but then GAZA must be destroyed.

    Palestinian terror must be driven from this planet. There’s a reason why no other Islamic country in the Middle East wants the Palestinians in their country.

    Their entire existence revolves around hating and killing Jews.

    There is no peace with these people. We can’t coexist with Barbarians who teach their children to kill Jews from the time they are born.

    There will never be peace in the Middle East. But there is life, and Israel has a right to protect that life.

    3:44 PM · Oct 7, 2023
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  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Crazy fukking bitch.
    Does she believe that the Middle East and the Arabs would just Tolerate or support Israel in the region if Israel levels Gaza?
    This will further engulf the region with instability.

    The Hawkish types arent very bright.
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 10-08-2023 at 10:40 PM.

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  20. #77
    They weren't able to beat Russia in Ukraine for a year.



    Now there are Hawkish Clowns want to escalate this in the ME attack Iran?

    They had being plotting to attack Iran for Years.
    Project for the New American Century Comes to mind.
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 10-08-2023 at 11:05 PM.

  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    That isn't the threat it used to be. We now have enough domestic oil production capacity to basically say oh well if they do. Sure it's a bit more costly but they can't threaten us with no oil anymore.
    Wait until China cuts off the good supplies to the USA and all the shelves go naked. No need for oil when there is no goods in the stores.

  22. #79
    Imagine China is the US Government and China has entitled the US citizen to be dependent on them. Then one day China cuts off the supply. What makes USA any different than the poor dependent, entitled, USA citizens? USA is doomed if they are not sustainably independent for their own consumption needs.

  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Wait until China cuts off the good supplies to the USA and all the shelves go naked. No need for oil when there is no goods in the stores.
    Why would China give a crap about Palestinians? Even if they did America would be fine without cheap crap in Walmart. China's real threat is to take Tiawan back and cut off the chip supply. But that is being countered somewhat currently by developing other sources in southeast Asia.



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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Guess who has no understanding of the middle east at all?

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    Last edited by acptulsa; 10-09-2023 at 06:05 AM.

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Why would China give a crap about Palestinians? Even if they did America would be fine without cheap crap in Walmart. China's real threat is to take Tiawan back and cut off the chip supply. But that is being countered somewhat currently by developing other sources in southeast Asia.
    Because China knows what and who the problem is.

    Do you catch my drift?
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  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    So. They make all the prophesies come true, and then claim God must not exist because He hasn't kicked everyone out of the pool just yet? Is that the name of this game?
    Game? I think not, God told us to be watchmen.

    Ezekiel 33:6 : " But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand."



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    Mark 13:23 : “But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.”

    I know God is in control and I am paying attention to what is transpiring around the world.
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  29. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Game? I think not...
    God doesn't either. But they might think they're playing a game.

    They've already proven more than once that they consider manipulating millions into killing each other to be great sport, and a lucrative gamble as well as fun. Assume they don't believe in God, and you'll see what I mean about what could be rattling around in their supremely arrogant heads.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 10-09-2023 at 08:31 AM.

  30. #86
    IAF just leveled the biggest refugee camp on a, Jabalia. They are ceaselessly hitting Gaza. As usual, they target ambulances.
    Rolls of tanks and armored carriers surround Gaza. 300,000 drafted. All power cut off. They intend to seige Gaza in guerilla war.

    Hamas has called on all armed groups in Lebanon for help. If Hezbollah joins, "Israel" will never be the same.

    EU just suspended all aid to Palestinians.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  31. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Because China knows what and who the problem is.

    Do you catch my drift?
    China has no interest in this conflict.

  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    IAF just leveled the biggest refugee camp on a, Jabalia. They are ceaselessly hitting Gaza. As usual, they target ambulances.
    Rolls of tanks and armored carriers surround Gaza. 300,000 drafted. All power cut off. They intend to seige Gaza in guerilla war.

    Hamas has called on all armed groups in Lebanon for help. If Hezbollah joins, "Israel" will never be the same.

    EU just suspended all aid to Palestinians.
    That is likely true, Hezzbolla has real weapons via Iran. Not homemade rockets and pilfered small small arms. But Israel has a modern military with an air force, navy and is a nuclear power if it comes down to that. A lot of Palestinians are about to die, yet the media whitewash it and make no war crime claims against Israel.



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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    China has no interest in this conflict.
    Like Russia, China wants peace and Palestinian statehood based on the 1967 borders.
    Abbas was in China this June.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I used to be squarely pro-Palestine and anti-Israel as well.

    However my views have changed somewhat. I do believe Israel has the right to their land and to defend themselves. That said, I do not always agree with their methods of doing so. I also think the USS Liberty attack was shady as hell, though that was like 60 years ago.. But more recently, were they involved in 9/11? How much influence do they have over US foreign policy and US political leaders? Those are good questions, I would like to get to the bottom of that. However, that doesn't change my opinion too much on whether the people of Israel have the right to their land and the defense thereof. It says to me more about the leadership and our lack of commitment to providing transparency of their actions.

    My question to you would be how many Arabs lived in Palestine in, say, 1900?

    How did so many Arabs arrive in Palestine subsequently?

    The answer to those questions may help provide some context as to how I arrived at my conclusion.

    That said, this conflict.. well.. it does seem there may have been some provocation based on the post above by Snowball.. so I have some questions.
    Obviously we should stay completely out of this but if I had to pick a side, I'd lean towards Israel based on 2 things. One is that they've created a much freer, prosperous place to live than just about any muslim country I can think of. My guess is if Israel and Palestine swapped territories in a few years the new Israel territory would be a better place to live than the Palestine territory. Two is that as far as I can tell Israel goes after military targets where the Palestinians target civilians. Yeah, I know lots of civilians get killed when your targets are military but I still think there's a difference.

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