Federal government "shutdown" (2023 edition)

[Swordsmyth]

@SpeakerMcCarthy passed today’s Continuing Resolution on suspension. He violated our conference rules by doing so

“Rule 29—Guidelines on Suspension of House Rules (a) The Republican Leader shall not schedule, or request to have scheduled, any bill or resolution for consideration under suspension of the Rules which— (1) fails to include a cost estimate, or for which the cost estimate exceeds $100,000,000, unless fully offset by at least an equal reduction in current spending”


https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/sta...26814965878894

But I guess Massie is just fine with that.

[Occam's Banana]

He has quite the record of defending McCuckthy's spending bills:

He was a big help to Install McCuckthy as Speaker too.

But I guess Massie is just fine with that.

*yawn*

You're a lot better at sucking Trump's cock than sneering at Massie.

(If you ask nicely, I'm sure Lindsey will make it a threesome.)

Mere politicking.

[Swordsmyth]

*yawn*

You're at lot better at sucking Trump's cock than sneering at Massie.

(If you ask nicely, I'm sure Lindsey will make it a threesome.)

Trump spoke words that have no effect.
Massie supports McCuckthy when it counts.

[Cap]

*yawn*

You're at lot better at sucking Trump's cock than sneering at Massie.

(If you ask nicely, I'm sure Lindsey will make it a threesome.)

If the thought of that doesn't turn you heterosexual, nothing will.

[Cap]

*yawn*

You're at lot better at sucking Trump's cock than sneering at Massie.

(If you ask nicely, I'm sure Lindsey will make it a threesome.)

I have to be fair, in defense of that threesome of the said three individuals, the old adage is still true, "The heart wants what the heart wants".

[acptulsa]

Trump spoke words that have no effect.

Like, for instance, every campaign promise he ever made.

Massie supports McCuckthy when it counts.

Like when he voted against the very bill this thread wound up being about?

Interesting you're still holding this grudge. Trump is smart enough to play nice with Massie, having completely failed to ruin him. Are you just mad because we keep reminding you why Trump threw the hissy fit in the first place? As in, because Massie wouldn't listen to Trump when he ordered him to let Pelosi suspend the Constitution...

[Cap]

Like, for instance, every campaign promise he ever made.



Like when he voted against the very bill this thread wound up being about?

Interesting you're still holding this grudge. Trump is smart enough to play nice with Massie, having completely failed to ruin him. Are you just mad because we keep reminding you why Trump threw the hissy fit in the first place? As in, because Massie wouldn't listen to Trump when he ordered him to let Pelosi suspend the Constitution...

Just wait a minute here....or two...well anyways he'll respond, just hold on.

[Occam's Banana]

Trump spoke words that have no effect.
Massie supports McCuckthy when it counts.

Yeah, that Thomas Massie $#@! is nothing but a third-rate grandstander and abject McCarthy toady. (obviously). He's not at all like Donald "Operation-Warp-Speeding, Fauci-honoring, taking-the-guns-first-due-processing-later, best-people-hiring-John-Bolton-appointing, Lindsey-Grahan-ass-kissing, etc., etc., etc." Trump.

I mean, it's not even close.

[Swordsmyth]

Like, for instance, every campaign promise he ever made.

LOL

Like when he voted against the very bill this thread wound up being about?

Yeah, McCuckthy didn't need his vote so he could keep his cover.
Now McCuckthy is at risk of being deposed so he is trying to save him.

Interesting you're still holding this grudge. Trump is smart enough to play nice with Massie, having completely failed to ruin him. Are you just mad because we keep reminding you why Trump threw the hissy fit in the first place? As in, because Massie wouldn't listen to Trump when he ordered him to let Pelosi suspend the Constitution...

That is false and not even the thing Massie incorrectly claimed.

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah, that Thomas Massie $#@! is nothing but a third-rate grandstander and abject McCarthy toady. (obviously). He's not at all like Donald "Operation-Warp-Speeding, Fauci-honoring, taking-the-guns-first-due-processing-later, best-people-hiring-John-Bolton-appointing, Lindsey-Grahan-ass-kissing, etc., etc., etc." Trump.

I mean, it's not even close.

Trump has done more good on balance than Massie ever has or ever will.
Massie is there for us whenever it doesn't do any good, and he is increasingly there for RINOs like McCuckthy when it counts.

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[Occam's Banana]

Trump has done more good on balance than Massie ever has or ever will.
Massie is there for us whenever it doesn't do any good, and he is increasingly there for RINOs like McCuckthy when it counts.

//

*yawn*

You're a lot better at sucking Trump's cock than sneering at Massie.

(If you ask nicely, I'm sure Lindsey will make it a threesome.)

[acptulsa]

That is false and not even the thing Massie incorrectly claimed.

You were there ( there's no other way you could know for certain it was false)?

So, if you know what isn't what the man said, you must know what he did say. So tell--but remember, I'm just going to post the video so people can figure out for themselves who is lying...

[Swordsmyth]

You were there ( there's no other way you could know for certain it was false)?

The logic of the claim fails.
The actions involved did not even come close to causing CoG, and while Massie was correct about the rules his insistence on them could have been used to trigger it.
The House was attempting to pass "must pass" legislation and he tried prevent them from doing so without a quorum, had they been unable to pass the legislation (they did pass it anyway) they could have tried to implement CoG.

So, if you know what isn't what the man said, you must know what he did say. So tell--but remember, I'm just going to post the video so people can figure out for themselves who is lying...

He didn't say Trump was in on a plot to suspend the Constitution.
Please do post the video as it proves you are making things up.

[Swordsmyth]

You were there ( there's no other way you could know for certain it was false)?

So, if you know what isn't what the man said, you must know what he did say. So tell--but remember, I'm just going to post the video so people can figure out for themselves who is lying...

The War On Us - Rep. Thomas Massie
https://odysee.com/@RonPaul:d/the-wa...part2-massie:5

What you said and what Massie said are two different things.
Massie speculated that Pelosi wanted to use the bill to somehow launch a coup, that may or may not be what she was doing.
Trump wanting the same bill to be passed doesn't mean he had the same motive even if that is what Pelosi was doing.
You claimed that his concerns and speculation were proven fact and that they applied to Trump.
Massie did not ever claim that Trump was trying to impose CoG.
But even if he was right about Pelosi he only said Trump pressured him to let the bill pass, that does not mean Trump was in on any plot she had.

Like I said, the House was attempting to pass "must pass" legislation and he tried prevent them from doing so without a quorum, had they been unable to pass the legislation (they did pass it anyway) they could have tried to implement CoG.
If the Bill passed there would be no basis for claiming the government was unable to function so CoG could be invoked.

[acptulsa]

But even if he was right about Pelosi he only said Trump pressured him to let the bill pass, that does not mean Trump was in on any plot she had.

Why do you keep falling back on the "Trump is an imbecile" defense? Do you really consider that a strong selling point?

[Swordsmyth]

Why do you keep falling back on the "Trump is an imbecile" defense? Do you really consider that a strong selling point?

LOL
That's not what I said.
He could have had many reasons for his actions.

[acptulsa]

LOL
That's not what I said.
He could have had many reasons for his actions.

None of them could be good.

That's why you keep calling him an imbecile, remember? Because there's only two reasons someone could have for doing something that evil--either they're evil or they're stupid. And you keep choosing to believe Trump is stupid because thinking he's 4D Chess Smart would require you to admit to yourself he's evil.

And that's how cognitive dissonance makes clowns of people.

[Swordsmyth]

None of them could be good.

That's why you keep calling him an imbecile, remember? Because there's only two reasons someone could have for doing something that evil--either they're evil or they're stupid. And you keep choosing to believe Trump is stupid because thinking he's 4D Chess Smart would require you to admit to yourself he's evil.

And that's how cognitive dissonance makes clowns of people.

False.
He was not all powerful and had to make choices between the best of bad options many times.
You don't get to set a false premise and then declare victory.

[acptulsa]

You don't get to set a false premise and then declare victory.

I know. I'm one of the main ones who never let you get away with that, remember?

I did neither.

[Swordsmyth]

I know. I'm one of the main ones who never let you get away with that, remember?

I did neither.

Your projection game is weak.

[acptulsa]

Your projection game is weak.

Yeah, I bet it is weak, considering I'm not using projection at all.

You think that because you truly think you can fool people by projecting Trump's sins on Massie. Using projection that is bold, but won't fool anybody under the sun, isn't as strong as you think.

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah, I bet it is weak, considering I'm not using projection at all.

You think that because you truly think you can fool people by projecting Trump's sins on Massie. Using projection that is bold, but won't fool anybody under the sun, isn't as strong as you think.

It's almost all you do.
But you do it so poorly everyone can see it and nobody is fooled.
You used to have better skills but like so many your skills decline with overuse.

[acptulsa]

You used to have better skills but like so many your skills decline with overuse.

And still you can't catch up. Why do I bother? It's like jogging slow to build up a toddler's confidence, but one just can't run slow enough.

[Swordsmyth]

And still you can't catch up. Why do I bother? It's like jogging slow to build up a toddler's confidence, but one just can't run slow enough.

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[acptulsa]

It's like jogging slow to build up a toddler's confidence, but one just can't run slow enough.

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Oh, good. Nappy time. How nice to get some relief from the self-entitled brat.