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    Matt Gaetz On The Record

    Matt Gaetz On The Record

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    Matt Gaetz voted YES on S. 546 Federal Police Grants - Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution does not authorize Congress to support local law-enforcement agencies. Federal funding of local police departments and county sheriffs comes with strings attached, usually in the form of oversight, regulations, and other homogenized standards — none of which are constitutional.

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on H.R. 4824 Carbon Sequestration - The federal government has no authority under Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution to engage in energy or environmental policy. Furthermore, carbon sequestration is closely connected to the UN 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development, which is antithetical to the Constitution and U.S. sovereignty.

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on H.R. 406 ASEAN Relations - ASEAN is a political and economic union, as opposed to an individual sovereign nation. Providing a permanent ASEAN mission in the United States with the same privileges and immunities as embassies further accelerates globalist designs of collectivizing nations into regional unions rather than dealing with them as individual sovereign states. Furthermore, two of the 10 member-states that comprise ASEAN officially have Marxist-Leninist governments: the Socialist Republic of Vietnam and the Lao People’s Democratic Republic. This resolution expands U.S. relations with the communist regimes that oppress those two nations and that heavily influence the policies of the ASEAN union.

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on Juneteenth Federal Holiday - The United States already observes 10 other federal holidays. Furthermore, seeing as slavery ended on December 6, not June 19, the inclusion of the words “National Independence Day” to Juneteenth creates the appearance of supplanting July 4 as America’s Independence Day. This perpetuates a false and dangerous notion that the United States has different days of independence depending on one’s race or ancestry, and is consistent with the communist tactic of “dividing the people” along racial lines.

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on H.R. 133 Appropriations/Coronavirus (Part 1) - We oppose. Congress is failing to address its profligate spending that yielded an annual federal deficit of $3.1 trillion in fiscal 2020. Moreover, Congress is minimizing its accountability to voters by combining all “discretionary” federal spending and coronavirus aid into one gigantic bill and only holding two votes on that bill in the House.

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on H.R. 266 Coronavirus - We oppose. Nowhere in the Constitution is the federal government authorized to disburse loans to small businesses or cover the salaries of laid-off employees. It is not the responsibility of the federal government to bail out businesses or the unemployed.

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on H.R. 5430 USMCA - We oppose. Congress is not authorized by the Constitution to surrender our national sovereignty to any transnational regional government, including the nascent North American Union.

    Matt Gaetz voted NO on H R 2500 On Agreeing to the Amendment 33 to H R 2500 - We support Representative Amash’s amendment. Indefinite detention without trial is a serious violation of the right to habeas corpus, the issuance of a warrant based on probable cause (Fourth Amendment), and the right to a “speedy and public” trial (Sixth Amendment).

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on H R 2157 Disaster Supplemental Appropriations - We oppose. The federal government has no constitutional authority to rebuild areas stricken by natural disasters. Such activity should be undertaken by private companies and charities first, and, as a last resort, handled by local or state governments. Disasters would arguably be handled more effectively this way compared to the feds.

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on S 47 Public Lands - We oppose. The Constitution does not authorize Congress to purchase private property except “all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings.”

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on H.J.R. 31 - We oppose. Most of the bill’s spending programs are unconstitutional and unacceptably expand our debt and deficit.

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on H.R. 6157 Appropriations for Defense, Labor-HHS-Education, and Continuing Appropriations - We Oppose. Social welfare spending falls outside the enumerated powers of the federal government, and lumping multiple appropriations bills into one mega bill reduces lawmakers’ accountability to their constituents. Moreover, even though defense spending is constitutional, the “defense” budget is bloated with funding for overseas military operations that have not contributed to the defense of our own country.

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on H.R. 302 FAA Reauthorization and Supplemental Disaster Appropriations - We Oppose. The bill is comprised of unconstitutional federal overreach in both aviation and disaster relief. One example is the TSA, which is known for groping and violating air travelers in the name of providing security. Instead of relying on an inefficient federal bureaucracy, security should be provided by the airlines, which have a vested interest in keeping their customers safe. Another area the feds should stay out of is the regulation of private-sector drones, which instead should be managed by local ordinances or (at most) state laws. And the market, not the feds, should determine such issues as the dimensions of seats on passenger airliners. Regarding disaster relief, this should be handled by private charitable efforts, not the federal government.

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on S. 1182 Flood Insurance - We Oppose. The Constitution does not give the federal government authority to get into the insurance business. Having the federal government as an insurer essentially subsidizes risky behavior, such as building in flood-, fire-, and earthquake-prone areas, and forces the taxpayer to pick up the tab. Insurance policies for natural disasters should be offered by private insurers, with the market setting the rates for such coverage.

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on H.R. 4909 School Violence - We Oppose. School safety is not a proper function of the federal government. School safety should be addressed at the local level. The nationalizing of local police and school security, as well as any other gun-control measures contained in the bill, are all strictly unconstitutional.

    The STOP School Violence Act of 2018 (H.R. 4909) would authorize $75 million a year through fiscal year 2028 for the Justice Department’s Secure Our Schools grant program. SOS is a grant program of the Justice Department’s Office of Community Oriented Policing Services, which has been instrumental in laying the foundations for nationalizing local police by providing federal “assistance” in the form of funds, equipment, training, and development of guidelines to local law-enforcement agencies.

    In a podcast interview with Conservative Review, Representative Thomas Massie (RKy.) said the “STOP School Violence Act was bad enough for nationalizing defense of our schools,” but he further revealed, “There is money in that bill that is going to go to gun control groups. It literally says in there you can give it to the 501-C3s, and then it also says in there it can’t go to train anybody on gun safety. It’s got to go for all the liberal sort of agendas.”

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on S.139 Warrantless Surveillance - We Oppose. FISA, while supposedly put in place to gather intelligence on foreign targets, has been used to spy on U.S. citizens. The bill does provide provisions to, ostensibly, protect the privacy of U.S. citizens, but given the track record of intelligence agencies, it is unlikely that they would actually follow these rules. The FISA Court gives a green light to just about any surveillance request that comes its way, and FISA-approved NSA warrantless surveillance of American citizens has become common knowledge

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on H.R. 3180 Intelligence Authorization - We Oppose. The very idea of Congress authorizing classified amounts of spending is unconstitutional, as well as frightening. Furthermore, some of the agencies that this “classified” spending is funding are themselves engaged in unconstitutional activities, such as spying on and gathering data from U.S. citizens without a warrant. While assessing (dubious) Russian influence in U.S. politics is an acceptable use of federal funds, much of this bill’s spending is unconstitutional and should be rejected.

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on H.Res.397 NATO - We Oppose. The United States should stay clear of entangling alliances such as NATO, which undermine the provision in the U.S. Constitution that assigns to Congress the power to declare war.

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on H.R. 1616 National Computer Forensics Institute Authorization - We Oppose. Providing federal equipment and training to state and local law-enforcement officers not only is unconstitutional, but also further federalizes the police system.

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on H.R. 1628 ObamaCare Replacement - We Oppose. We have assigned pluses to the nays because ObamaCare should be repealed, not replaced with a Republican variant of unconstitutional government healthcare that more liberty-minded lawmakers have referred to as "ObamaCare Lite" and "ObamaCare 2.0."


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    Yes this is all true, but he has done a lot of great things too. He opposed Trump when he stepped out of line on foreign policy issues (and got attack by Trump for it). That took a lot of spine.

    And he has been holding McCarthy to a high standard and needling him every chance. He is also against an absurd foreign policy and ardently pro 2A. He isn't perfect, but probably the best politician seeking the FL gubernatorial nomination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Yes this is all true, but

    I never did before, nor do I now, consent to any of that GARBAGE in the OP.


    h/t @CaptUSA
    Last edited by PAF; 09-19-2023 at 12:28 PM.
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    I'm no fan of Gaetz, and am pretty much indifferent to the guy, but I can't help noticing how strange it is that the OP of an "on the record" thread - ostensibly intended merely to inform and relay "just the facts" - somehow manages to include only negative items and omits any of the (more numerous) positive ones from the cited source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    I'm no fan of Gaetz, and am pretty much indifferent to the guy, but I can't help noticing how strange it is that the OP of an "on the record" thread - ostensibly intended merely to inform and relay "just the facts" - somehow manages to include only negative items and omits any of the (more numerous) positive ones from the cited source.
    What a strange, but typical, response to this thread.

    Gee, I wonder:

    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Some may ask: But where are the good votes/positions? Why didn't you include those?

    My response is: Good votes/positions should be the default and be expected. But it is not a few good votes/positions [little bones] that got us where we are - it is all of the bad.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...nd-Information
    But take note, I did include the source link in the OP, for those who couldn't care less about the bad votes, and have the need to gleefully cheer him on
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    What a strange, but typical, response to this thread.

    Gee, I wonder:

    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Some may ask: But where are the good votes/positions? Why didn't you include those?

    My response is: Good votes/positions should be the default and be expected. But it is not a few good votes/positions [little bones] that got us where we are - it is all of the bad.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...nd-Information
    Yes, I've seen that disclaimer - and that's what's strange. Why did RFK Jr. not get the same treatment in his "on the record" thread, the OP of which contains only at least broadly or allusively positive items? Shouldn't those items have been omitted because they "should be the default and be expected"? (And why did negative items which were subsequently posted elicit excuses and complaints?)

    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    But take note, I did include the source link in the OP, for those who couldn't care less about the bad votes, and have the need to gleefully cheer him on
    That is a ridiculous and absurdly unfair false dichotomy.

    The alternatives are not restricted to either (1) being concerned only about his bad votes because the good ones should be the expected and unremarkable default, or (2) "[not] car[ing] less about the bad votes [while needing] to gleefully cheer him on". Characterizing things in that manner only makes the disparities between your presentations of Gaetz, et al. vis-ŕ-vis RFK Jr. appear even more biased and unevenly motivated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Yes, I've seen that disclaimer - and that's what's strange. Why did RFK Jr. not get the same treatment in his "on the record" thread, the OP of which contains only at least broadly or allusively positive items? Shouldn't those items have been omitted because they "should be the default and be expected"? (And why did negative items which were subsequently posted elicit excuses and complaints?)

    That is a ridiculous and absurdly unfair false dichotomy.

    The alternatives are not restricted to either (1) being concerned only about his bad votes because the good ones should be the expected and unremarkable default, or (2) "[not] car[ing] less about the bad votes [while needing] to gleefully cheer him on". Characterizing things in that manner only makes the disparities between your presentations of Gaetz, et al. vis-ŕ-vis RFK Jr. appear even more biased and unevenly motivated.
    That is strange, isn't it?

    At the time I compiled RFK, I was attempting to reel some of the leftist/democrats to the ideas of Free Markets, and to discuss Ukraine, Captive Agencies, Lobbyists, etc. It was an opening for me, since they would never give the likes of Ron Paul the time of day. But as you can see at the bottom of his record sheet, I did in fact include his Domestic Platform, one that I am not fond of:

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. On the Record

    RFK has never held office, therefore no voting record exists. The following are interviews, tweets and statements [from approximately oldest to newest].

    RFK Jr. Domestic Policy
    https://www.isidewith.com/candidates...omestic-policy
    On top of that, you have done a good job of providing information in that thread, so I did not bother to update it anymore.

    There is little to nothing that I hold democrats accountable for. As an Agorist/Anarchist/Whatever/Whatever, the republican party is supposed to be more inline(?) with my views. As such, even though I do not vote [rest assured I do call reps/senators], they should be "held accountable", certainly when they speak the language but seldom come through on the house floor. I provide information so that others can easily reference it and "hold them accountable" also. If my approach doesn't jive with you, well, simply move on and read something more to your liking.

    I can sit here and be more methodical and "fair", and try to please everybody so that they feel good, but the fact is that I am results oriented and do what I need to get the job done. When I have my liberty group meetings, or I am out and about, it is a cinch and convenient for me to pull up an On the Record so that others can quickly can see where I am coming from. Many good discussions have come about when most were initially unaware.

    So, we good? Good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Yes this is all true, but he has done a lot of great things too. He opposed Trump when he stepped out of line on foreign policy issues (and got attack by Trump for it). That took a lot of spine.

    And he has been holding McCarthy to a high standard and needling him every chance. He is also against an absurd foreign policy and ardently pro 2A. He isn't perfect, but probably the best politician seeking the FL gubernatorial nomination.
    I don't believe that the pros and cons of Matt Gaetz as a politician are the point of this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    ...
    There is little to nothing that I hold democrats accountable for. As an Agorist/Anarchist/Whatever/Whatever, the republican party is supposed to be more inline(?) with my views. As such, even though I do not vote [rest assured I do call reps/senators], they should be "held accountable", certainly when they speak the language but seldom come through on the house floor. I provide information so that others can easily reference it and "hold them accountable" also.
    ...
    In other words, all politicians are flawed hypocrites, therefore all politicians and elections themselves should be shunned. To get involved in elections is to imply consent to everything done by the elected rulers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    In other words, all politicians are flawed hypocrites, therefore all politicians and elections themselves should be shunned. To get involved in elections is to imply consent to everything done by the elected rulers.
    How many more $5,000,000,000,000 $10,000,000,000,000 $20,000,000,000,000 $33,000,000,000,000 TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS before people finally catch on?

    Got a good round number?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    To get involved in elections is to imply consent to everything done by the elected rulers.
    This is abjectly false and reeks of simple defeatism. Someone will end up running the government, and it's better to have some influence or say in the process than none. That's like saying "don't fight your attacker, just let them do their thing"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    This is abjectly false and reeks of simple defeatism. Someone will end up running the government, and it's better to have some influence or say in the process than none. That's like saying "don't fight your attacker, just let them do their thing"
    You have convinced me.

    On a serious note, my comment was my understanding of the purpose of these specific threads by the OP, not an endorsement or agreement.
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Dave Smith | Matt Gaetz | Part Of The Problem 1174
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    On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave is joined by congressman Matt Gaetz to discuss his breaking of the Donald Trump assassination attempts, inflation and the future being handed down to younger generations, and so much more.

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    Bump for those interested.

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    Add 2 more to the OP list:

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on S. 546 Federal Police Grants - Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution does not authorize Congress to support local law-enforcement agencies. Federal funding of local police departments and county sheriffs comes with strings attached, usually in the form of oversight, regulations, and other homogenized standards — none of which are constitutional.

    Matt Gaetz voted YES on H.R. 4824 Carbon Sequestration - The federal government has no authority under Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution to engage in energy or environmental policy. Furthermore, carbon sequestration is closely connected to the UN 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development, which is antithetical to the Constitution and U.S. sovereignty.
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