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    Tucker Carlson interviews Javier Milei, libertarian presidential candidate in Argentina

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1702442099814342725

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    Needed its own thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/st...42280697655516

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Needed its own thread?
    Yeah, I thought so...The Roach can merge it if he feels it was unnecessary.

    I find that items are much easier searched for and retrieved if they have a dedicated thread.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 09-15-2023 at 08:01 AM.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yeah, I thought so...
    I don't disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yeah, I thought so...The Roach can merge it if he feels it was unnecessary.
    There's not really any point in merging, since the OP item is already posted to the two other relevant threads (i.e., the "Tucker on Twitter" thread, and the "Meet Javier Milei" thread). So I'll just move this thread to "World News & Affairs" because - alas! alack! - it is not "U.S. Political News" (more's the pity).

    And In any case, I am approve a dedicated thread for this particular item. Very much am I approve.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I find that items are much easier searched for and retrieved if they have a dedicated thread.
    The RPFs' search function leaves more than a little to be desired, does it not? [1]

    To enhance "findability", one can try to use precise & relevant "keywords" in thread titles and post text (and individual posts can even be given "titles" of their own, via the "Go Advanced" function of the "Reply" edit field). There's also the "Site Tags System" for threads, though that seems to have fallen into disuse (perhaps in part due to the lack of a functional interface for tag "discovery" and engagement).

    In cases like this - where one wants to highlight a particular item that has strong topical relevance to one or more other threads - it can be useful to provide links to the other relevant thread(s). That way, for example, if someone encounters this thread (now or in the future) and says, "Hey, I'm interested in this Javier Milei character, I wonder what else there is about him around here" - or if they notice that this is the 24th "episode" of something Tucker Carlson has done and wants to find other such "episodes" - the links to such matter will be readily available.

    Of course, then there's the matter of also providing a link back from those other general threads to these dedicated ones (such as from the "Tucker on Twitter" and the "Meet Javier Milei" threads to this one) - and that can cause cross-posting "bump clutter". So I guess it's a trade-off between that inconvenience, and the inconvenience of the fragmentation caused by separate "dedicated" but closely related threads. Mileages and tolerances will vary. (As a moderator, I have the ability to actually do something about it when my particular and idiosyncratic sensibilities twitch about such things - but that shouldn't be interpreted as a rebuke or admonishment of any kind. It's just me scratching an itch I'm able to reach.)



    [1] That's why I sometimes compose blog entries indexing certain topics, or place "index tables" in the OP of some of my threads (such as the "Tucker on Twitter" thread) - though I certainly don't expect anyone else to go to that kind of trouble.
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    Javier is good dude
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    Rumble version:

    Tucker: Ep. 24 Argentina’s next president could be Javier Milei



    Ep. 24 Argentina’s next president could be Javier Milei. Who is he? We traveled to Buenos Aires to speak with him and find out.

    (0:00) Intro
    (3:32) Inflation
    (6:00) Gender ideology
    (9:57) Abortion
    (11:45) Pope Francis' affinity for dictators
    (14:45) Architecture
    (17:52) Advice to Americans and Donald Trump
    (22:23) Climate change
    (27:55) China
    (29:18) Prayer
    (30:39) Violent political protests
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1702442099814342725
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Javier is good dude
    Javier Milei's take on Ukraine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Javier Milei's take on Ukraine
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    ... and?
    //

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Javier Milei's take on Ukraine

    Boo!! I'll give him a pass on this assuming he is ignorant of the actual facts but still he should keep his mouth shut on things he is not familiar with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    //
    SS posted that because he knows what I think about Russia's "invasion".

    Specifically:
    1) DPR/LPR seceded (for quite legitimate reasons, not that it matters)
    2) Ukraine attacked DPR/LPR and invaded their sovereignty
    3) DPR/LPR asked for military assistance from Russia
    4) Russia provided that military assistance

    Whatever Putin's other motives may be, both his words and his actions have been consistent with upholding the sovereignty of the seceded DPR/LPR.

    And for that, he should be applauded. Not chastised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL

    I guess if you Stand with Ukraine and Our Democracy it's not a problem.
    ...
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    He would definitely be a breath of fresh air for Argentina. Also calling out the pope like that takes balls, but nothing he said was untrue.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Javier Milei's take on Ukraine

    Judging by all the masks, I'd have to say that this was sometime right after the war started.

    I'd be curious to know what his position now is.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

    If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Judging by all the masks, I'd have to say that this was sometime right after the war started.

    I'd be curious to know what his position now is.
    My guess is: probably pretty much the same.

    He's sharply critical of "autocratic tyrants" - which is what Putin is (regardless of whether his Ukraine policy is good or bad or right or wrong). Of course, Zelenskyy is a tyrannical autocrat too, so things are pretty much a wash on that count.

    As far as I have seen, apart from the romanticized idealism expressed in that video clip, Milei hasn't said much at all about Russia in general, or the Ukraine situation in particular. (And why should he? Unlike the case for China's growing global influence, Russia isn't much of a concern with respect to Argentina). If anything, I would guess Milei's stance toward Russia and Putin would more or less reflect his stance toward China and Xi - i.e., non-interventionist "geopolitical" opposition.

    Consider the following from Milei's recent interview with The Economist:

    [...]

    The Economist: With whom would you do business?

    Javier Milei: Commercial relations are a problem of individuals in which the state should not interfere. You can trade with whomever you want.

    The Economist: But you mentioned that you would break off relations with China and Brazil.

    Javier Milei: That is political.

    If you want to buy, sell and make deals with the Chinese or whoever you want, I have no problem. It is your problem.

    But my political alignment is with other people. That is to say, I cannot have political alignments with those who do not respect freedom, with those who do not respect life, with those who do not respect democracy.

    The Economist: You would not advance in free trade agreements through Mercosur because Brazil is involved?

    Javier Milei: What does free trade look like? Free trade does not include the state. It is a private decision, so you can trade with whomever you want.

    The Economist: So your government would not sign free trade agreements?

    Javier Milei: Why do I have to be involved in transactions with private parties?

    If you want to trade with Brazil, do it, if you want to trade with China, do it, it is your problem as a private person. Tariffs should not exist. Free trade does not include the government interfering in private decisions.

    What I will have an influence on is geopolitics, on strategy in terms of geopolitics.

    [...]

    The Economist: And what do you think about China? What would bilateral relations with China be like in your government?

    Javier Milei: It does not respect the conditions on which I decide who my allies are. Freedom, democracy, peace.

    So it doesn’t fit my...it doesn’t meet those parameters.

    The Economist: You wouldn’t sit at a table with Xi Jinping?

    Javier Milei: [Pause] Not as a strategic ally. If Argentines want to trade with China it is a private sector problem.

    The Economist: And beyond trade, for example, what would you do about what is happening in Antarctica or the base that China has in Neuquén?

    Javier Milei: That should be put under review.

    The Economist: How?

    Javier Milei: I don’t like to deal with communists because that is not a system that leads to the betterment of goods. No communist system leads to freedom, in fact it destroys it, so I can’t have dealings with communists.

    [...]



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
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    This interview blew my mind. Now I feel like I'm living in a movie. I just hope the script keeps going this way...
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