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Thread: New Mexico Governor Takes Away Right to Carry for Public Health "Emergency"

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    It will never hold up in court. Everyone knows that. Yes, they may jail a few people short term if they can even get law enforcement to follow it, which it seems they will not. I'm not particulary concerned about it.
    That's what they said about the 6 Jan politicals.

    Some of them have been imprisoned for years now.

    But, it's nothing to be concerned about.

    You are in the vast majority by the way.

    Which is why we are in the $#@!hole we are in.

    "This is fine".
    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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    My money is on that this largely unknown creature, Michelle Lujan Grisham, is less concerned about her "public health crisis" than she is about finding a way to introduce herself to the national stage of progressive wanna-be's in the upcoming Klamidiah Harris administration.

    Klamidiah's team can always use a fresh-faced wise latina to help transform Amerika.



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    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...48781434232836
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  6. #34
    Albuquerque, NM – Today, the National Association for Gun Rights (NAGR) and Foster Haines (NAGR member and Albuquerque resident) filed a lawsuit against Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham and Secretary of Health Patrick Allen for Executive Order 2023-130 and a subsequent Public Health Emergency Order issued by the Secretary, which bans the public carry of firearms in Albuquerque for 30 days.

    Plaintiffs are asking for a Temporary Restraining Order and a repeal of the Order.

    NAGR argues the Order is unconstitutional on the merits of the Supreme Court’s ruling NYSRPA v. Bruen, which held New York’s ban on the public carry of firearms unconstitutional. Bruen also held that any gun regulation that does not fall into the text, history, and tradition of the Second Amendment is unconstitutional.

    “Gov. Luhan Grisham is throwing up a middle finger to the Constitution and the Supreme Court,” said Dudley Brown, President of the National Association for Gun Rights. “Her Executive Order is in blatant disregard for Bruen. She needs to be held accountable for stripping the God-given rights of millions away with the stroke of a pen.”
    https://nationalgunrights.org/resour...ver-carry-ban/
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  7. #35

    https://twitter.com/RonDeSantis/stat...09108909039936
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    That's what they said about the 6 Jan politicals.

    Some of them have been imprisoned for years now.

    But, it's nothing to be concerned about.

    You are in the vast majority by the way.

    Which is why we are in the $#@!hole we are in.

    "This is fine".
    I knew the cases against the J6 people were solid and would get convictions. Yeah the sentences were excessive but they were caught on video guilty.

    I meant they may be able to arrest a few people with this and hold them, but there is no chance of a conviction. This is nothing but grandstanding.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I knew the cases against the J6 people were solid and would get convictions. Yeah the sentences were excessive but they were caught on video guilty.

    I meant they may be able to arrest a few people with this and hold them, but there is no chance of a conviction. This is nothing but grandstanding.
    If you're being serious, and not just jerking me off, there is no talking to you about this.

    If you cannot comprehend how serious this is, without me walking you through it, nothing I say or do can make you understand.

    For the record I do NOT think you are jerking me off, you are serious.

    And your views are also in the vast majority of American citizen's views.

    Which is why there is no hope of ever turning this around.

    Anybody with the means, had better be heading for the exits.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
    ― George Orwell, 1984

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    If you cannot comprehend how serious this is, without me walking you through it, nothing I say or do can make you understand.
    Are you waiting for a "ruling" by a court? I don't make guarantees on others behalf, but I am almost sure that it won't stand, so the by-product will be that you are safe. But what if it does hold up in court?

    People want secession... until they don't?

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  11. #39
    No I don't think this is a serious problem. I think a far left governor has overplayed her hand and there will be pushback. It's never going to hold up in court. Not a chance.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Are you waiting for a "ruling" by a court? I don't make guarantees on others behalf, but I am almost sure that it won't stand, so the by-product will be that you are safe. But what if it does hold up in court?

    People want secession... until they don't?

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...Never-Has-Been
    Who, me?

    Of course not.

    Ideally I would like to see wholesale, massive and public civil disobedience by every armed citizen in New Mexico...hell unarmed as well.

    I'd like that followed up by every American supporting them, in person or financially, both of which actions government has shown they will put you in prison for.
    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
    ― George Orwell, 1984



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  14. #41
    Health emergency!

    Dictatorial powers.

    No more firearms.

    bUt tHe pOlIcE WoUlD NeVeR EnFoRcE LaWs wHiCh vIoLaTe pEoPlE'S RiGhTs
    Last edited by unknown; 09-10-2023 at 03:09 AM.
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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    No I don't think this is a serious problem. I think a far left governor has overplayed her hand and there will be pushback. It's never going to hold up in court. Not a chance.
    Of course it's unlikely to hold up in court.

    That's not the point.

    Thomas Massie knows the score:

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    And right on cue, here come the distributed talking points:


    Notice how they qualify the claim: "there is no [...] state [...] emergency exception [...]"

    Federal, on the other hand ...
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 09-10-2023 at 03:13 AM.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    If you're being serious, and not just jerking me off, there is no talking to you about this.

    If you cannot comprehend how serious this is, without me walking you through it, nothing I say or do can make you understand.

    For the record I do NOT think you are jerking me off, you are serious.

    And your views are also in the vast majority of American citizen's views.

    Which is why there is no hope of ever turning this around.

    Anybody with the means, had better be heading for the exits.
    You're arguing with someone who thinks it's best not to "freak out the stupid liberals".

    IOW: We should just defer to the Karens, so they won't get upset.

    (The problem with that, of course, is that "stupid liberals" will always "freak out" - and Karens will always get upset - no matter what you do or don't do. It's in their nature as narcissistically domineering control freaks.)

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    No I don't think this is a serious problem. I think a far left governor has overplayed her hand and there will be pushback. It's never going to hold up in court. Not a chance.
    Of course it's unlikely to hold up in court.

    That's not the point.
    https://twitter.com/RealSpikeCohen/s...51253175308518


    Provoke outraged "pushback" against flagrantly unlawful gun-grabbing (which you know is likely to be struck down in court anyway), while using that "pushback" as diversionary camouflage for establishing the practice of issuing draconian and dictatorial "emergency orders" in the name of "public health" (which goes unexamined by the courts and others, and just sort of flies by under the radar).

    It's really quite a deft and clever shell-game move.

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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    What Would an Actual Justice System Look Like?! - NM Governor Gun Ban and COVID
    https://odysee.com/@Disenthrall:8/Wh...nBanandCOVID:9
    Disenthrall | 09 September 2023

    Full stream:

    New Mexico Governor Woke Up and Chose Treason with James Freeman
    https://odysee.com/@Disenthrall:8/Ne...ames-Freeman:5
    Disenthrall | 08 September 2023


  21. #48

    They're Being Disingenuous

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...48781434232836
    Whenever there's a police shooting that the public has deemed as "unjust" or "unethical," the state and local governments never blame the weapon(s) involved; they go after the cops who were potentially guilty of an offense.

    However, whenever a private citizen is involved in a shooting that the public has deemed as "unjust" or "unethical," the state and local governments always blame the weapon(s), first. Clearly, we all see there's an agenda to confiscate firearms from citizens by incremental policy, even if they have to do it under the guise of "public health" or "emergency."
    "Then David said to the Philistine, 'You come to me with a sword, a spear, and a javelin, but I come to you in the name of Yahweh of hosts, the God of the battle lines of Israel, Whom you have reproached.'" - 1 Samuel 17:45

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  23. #49

    RED ALERT - New Mexico Governor declares Second Amendment NULL AND VOID (Podcast)

    https://www.brighteon.com/d7d0ddad-1...1-12fa53cb25a9

    Go to 3:45 for video of Governors announcement.

    Is it time to determine if Democracy is the GREATEST THREAT? (Today's "democracy" is step for step the exact same thing as NAZI in Germany).
    Last edited by DamianTV; 09-10-2023 at 09:59 AM.
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    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

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    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

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    Our central bank is not privately owned.

  24. #50
    and then i heard a shot...
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

  25. #51
    She has just been sued over this:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...ico-gun-order/
    __________________________________________________ ________________
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  26. #52
    Its grounds for impeachment, but has to be done legally.

    They will always use the Hegalian Dialectic (Problem, Reaction, Solution) as an EXCUSE to take away your rights.

    Hey look two kids got in a fight at school. Therefore Law Enforcement will immediately remove everyones HANDS because HANDS cause violence! HAND VIOLENCE is the greatest threat and has created an emergency, therefore everyone will have their HANDS forcibly removed. Its a HAND EMERGENCY.

    Edit: Something else to note is the Propaganda of "GUN VIOLENCE". This is called an Associative Brainwashing Technique. By saying one of the paired terms, the other word is immediately recalled. As in my example of "HAND VIOLENCE", if you hear the word HAND you are supposed to recall the word VIOLENCE.
    Last edited by DamianTV; 09-10-2023 at 10:22 AM.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

  27. #53
    https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/st...28427812286793

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
    ― George Orwell, 1984

  28. #54
    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...24135026286810

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
    ― George Orwell, 1984

  29. #55
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  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And your views are also in the vast majority of American citizen's views.

    Which is why there is no hope of ever turning this around.
    That's incorrect.
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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That's incorrect.
    I hope and pray every day that I am wrong.
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  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Thomas Massie again.

    Oh, well ... guess I'll just have to give some to AF as a proxy ...

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.

    Dammit! Somebody cover me, please.

  34. #59
    The gov of NM ( which is not new or any longer mexico ,but is a hotbed of obama- biden type dems) can go straighht to hell.
    Do something Danke

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...48781434232836
    "Is it unconstitutional?"

    Yes, except when I say it's not.

    LOL

    "Do you think criminals will abide by this?"

    No I do not.

    LOL
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