New Mexico Governor Takes Away Right to Carry for Public Health "Emergency"

[Anti-Neocon]

Link here

SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham on Friday issued an emergency order suspending the right to carry firearms in public across Albuquerque and the surrounding county for at least 30 days amid a spate of gun violence.

Apparently the loophole is to call it a "public health emergency" because there's no other way to play dictator like that.

Miranda Viscoli, co-president of New Mexicans to Prevent Gun Violence, applauded the governor’s order as a courageous and necessary step to curbing gun violence, even if its legal fate is uncertain.

“If it saves one life, then it’s worth doing,” she said.

Who cares it's against the law, all we have to do is save one life!

This is literally their stance, who cares about any freedoms, as long as one life is saved.

[Occam's Banana]

FTA: https://apnews.com/article/albuquerq...bb3c0001cb8e63

Lujan Grisham acknowledged not all law enforcement officials were on board with her decision.

“I welcome the debate and fight about how to make New Mexicans safer,” she said at a news conference, flanked by law enforcement officials, including the district attorney for the Albuquerque area.

How about "$#@! you. No."?

That's the closest thing to any kind of "debate" you deserve.

Also FTA:

Lujan Grisham said state police would be responsible for enforcing what amount to civil violations. Albuquerque police Chief Harold Medina said he won’t enforce it, and Bernalillo County Sheriff John Allen said he’s uneasy about it because it raises too many questions about constitutional rights.

No, it doesn't raise "too many questions about constitutional rights", you jackass.

It doesn't raise any questions at all in that regard.

It is obviously, blatantly, flagrantly, and egregiously unconstitutional. Period. Full stop.

And you damn well know it - so just say so, firmly and explicitly, instead of spouting some mealy-mouthed song-and-dance about how sympathetic and "understand[ing]" you otherwise are, despite being "wary" of the "potential" (!!) for violating peoples' rights (yes, Sheriff Allen, violating peoples' rights does indeed possess the "potential" of violating peoples' rights - JFC!). FTA:

John Allen said in a statement late Friday that he has reservations about the order but is ready to cooperate to tackle gun violence.

“While I understand and appreciate the urgency, the temporary ban challenges the foundation of our constitution, which I swore an oath to uphold,” Allen said. “I am wary of placing my deputies in positions that could lead to civil liability conflicts, as well as the potential risks posed by prohibiting law-abiding citizens from their constitutional right to self-defense.”

[Occam's Banana]

The executive order / "declaration of emergemcy" (PDF file): https://www.governor.state.nm.us/wp-...2023-130-1.pdf

The "public health" order (PDF file): https://www.governor.state.nm.us/wp-...drug-abuse.pdf

The official press release:

Governor announces statewide enforcement plan for gun violence, fentanyl reduction – Plan includes 30-day suspension of concealed, open carry in Albuquerque and Bernalillo County
https://www.governor.state.nm.us/202...alillo-county/
Office of the Governor | 08 September 2023

SANTA FE – Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham announced on Friday a new public health order that outlines immediate actions aimed at quickly reducing gun violence and illegal drug use in Albuquerque and Bernalillo County.

The recent shooting deaths of a thirteen-year-old girl on July 28, a five-year-old girl on August 14, and an eleven-year-old boy on September 6, as well as two mass shootings this year spurred the governor to declare gun violence a public health emergency on Thursday. Today’s public health order includes directives to curb the gun violence and drug abuse that the Governor has declared to be public health emergencies.

“As I said yesterday, the time for standard measures has passed,” said Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham. “And when New Mexicans are afraid to be in crowds, to take their kids to school, to leave a baseball game – when their very right to exist is threatened by the prospect of violence at every turn – something is very wrong.”

During a substantive and earnest conversation on Friday with public safety officials including District Attorney Sam Bregman, Bernalillo County Sheriff John Allen, Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina, former State Police Chief Pete Kassetas, and state law enforcement leadership, the governor expanded on her plans to drastically reduce the number of violent incidents and fentanyl-related deaths in New Mexico.

The governor also on Friday signed an executive order declaring illegal drugs a public health emergency.

The action plan includes a suspension of open and concealed carry laws in Bernalillo County, temporarily prohibiting the carrying of guns on public property with certain exceptions. Exceptions include for licensed security guards and law enforcement officers. Citizens with permits to carry firearms are free to possess their weapons on private property (such as at a gun range or gun store), provided they transport the firearm in a locked box, use a trigger lock, or some other mechanism that renders the gun incapable of being fired.

The public health order also directs:

• The Regulation and Licensing Division to conduct monthly inspections of licensed firearm dealers to ensure compliance with all sales and storage laws.
• The Department of Health, along with the Environment Department, to begin wastewater testing for illegal substances such as fentanyl at schools.
• The Department of Health to compile and issue a comprehensive report on gunshot victims presenting at hospitals in New Mexico, which shall include (if available): demographic data of gunshot victims, including age, gender, race, and ethnicity; data on gunshot victim’s healthcare outcomes; the brand and caliber of the firearm used; the general circumstances leading to the injury; the impact of gunshot victims on New Mexico’s healthcare system; and any other pertinent information.
• A prohibition on firearms on state property, including state buildings and schools. This also includes other places of education where children gather, such as parks.
• The State Police to add officers in Albuquerque with funding for overtime provided.
• The Children, Youth and Families Department to immediately suspend the Juvenile Detention Alternative Initiative and evaluate juvenile probation protocols.

The orders signed go into effect immediately.

[Occam's Banana]

Become Ungovernable

https://twitter.com/RealSpikeCohen/s...33356917944670

[Occam's Banana]

Become Ungovernable

https://twitter.com/RealSpikeCohen/s...33356917944670

That she openly admits (would-be) criminals are not expected to respect the order tells you everything you need to know.

This is not about "public health".

It is not about "saving just one life". [1]

It is about exercising power and control over peaceful and otherwise "law-abiding" people.

Nothing more, nothing less, and nothing else.

Does anyone doubt that this "temporary" order is not desired, hoped, and intended to become permanent?

Grisham and her gun-grabbing cronies are just testing the limits of what they can get away with.



[1] Saving "just one life" from whom? The people who are admittedly not even expected to obey the order?

[Occam's Banana]

What Would an Actual Justice System Look Like?! - NM Governor Gun Ban and COVID
https://odysee.com/@Disenthrall:8/Wh...nBanandCOVID:9
Disenthrall | 09 September 2023

[Anti Federalist]

Wow, this is a great leap forward for our oppressors.

We $#@!ing warned you people, over twenty years ago, about the Model State Emergency Health Powers Acts, now adopted, in whole or in part by all fifty states, including NM, which grant governors plenipotentiary power to declare a "health Emergency" and decree whatever they $#@!ing want.

If she can overturn the state law in NM and the US Constitution by Executive Order, and ban the carrying of weapons, she could have just as easily banned possession of weapons and ordered confiscations.

Is it time, YET?

Seriously...if people can't start stirring their stumps to save themselves, then $#@! it...I'm out.

BariLoche here I come.

[Occam's Banana]

Q: "You took an oath to the Constitution. Is[n't it unconstitutional to do what you are trying to do]?"

A: "With one exception - and that is if there's an emergency, and I've declared an emergency [...]"

... and "No Constitutional right [...], including my oath, is [...] absolute."

IOW: It's okay, because "ZOMG!1!! Emergency!" - and also because she took a non-absolute oath to a non-absolute Constitution.

https://twitter.com/JoshuaAtLarge/st...67605624651965

[Occam's Banana]

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Also FTA: [[https://apnews.com/article/albuquerq...bb3c0001cb8e63]

Lujan Grisham said state police would be responsible for enforcing what amount to civil violations. Albuquerque police Chief Harold Medina said he won’t enforce it, and Bernalillo County Sheriff John Allen said he’s uneasy about it because it raises too many questions about constitutional rights.

No, it doesn't raise "too many questions about constitutional rights", you jackass.

It doesn't raise any questions at all in that regard.

It is obviously, blatantly, flagrantly, and egregiously unconstitutional. Period. Full stop.

And you damn well know it - so just say so, firmly and explicitly, instead of spouting some mealy-mouthed song-and-dance about how sympathetic and "understand[ing]" you otherwise are, despite being "wary" of the "potential" (!!) for violating peoples' rights (yes, Sheriff Allen, violating peoples' rights does indeed possess the "potential" of violating peoples' rights - JFC!). FTA:

John Allen said in a statement late Friday that he has reservations about the order but is ready to cooperate to tackle gun violence.

“While I understand and appreciate the urgency, the temporary ban challenges the foundation of our constitution, which I swore an oath to uphold,” Allen said. “I am wary of placing my deputies in positions that could lead to civil liability conflicts, as well as the potential risks posed by prohibiting law-abiding citizens from their constitutional right to self-defense.”

https://twitter.com/BCSONM/status/1700326536266875221


Replies:

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/...40598694109495


https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status...43125913313603

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1700341554161053830

https://twitter.com/RealSpikeCohen/s...78917587005791

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/LibertyLockPod/s...82265090404565

[Anti Federalist]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1700341554161053830

https://twitter.com/RealSpikeCohen/s...78917587005791

This is an overused and worn out cliché, but this really is a "Crossing the Rubicon" event.

[Occam's Banana]

Cowards heave a sigh of relief that they can pass the buck to the staties. Then they proceed to simp for the governor while pretending not to notice the flagrant illegality of her order (which is in violation of both her oath of office and theirs).

https://twitter.com/ABQPOLICE/status...49428006047820

[Anti Federalist]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1700291555888697663

[Anti Federalist]

Where the $#@! is the "Outrage Press" on this?

[Dr.3D]

It's not healthy to be unarmed in a high crime area.

[Anti Federalist]

https://twitter.com/FenixAmmunition/...16782546845847

[69360]

She can issue these declarations but they are unenforceable. It's just virtue signaling.

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/FenixAmmunition/...16782546845847


https://twitter.com/FenixAmmunition/...85190924062792


https://twitter.com/LPNH/status/1700485086448177358

[Anti Federalist]

She can issue these declarations but they are unenforceable. It's just virtue signaling.

Jesus Christ what the hell is the matter with you?

That's what you were saying about the Jan 6 politicals before they started getting sent to prison for decades.

Why is it "not" enforceable?

New Mexico is not a constitutional carry state.

Your "permit" status comes up if a state cop runs your plates.

No problem to pull you over and toss you and your vehicle for "illegal carry".

Or, just throw up some random checkpoints and roadblocks, a daily occurrence all across the land of the free, randomly search people.

Once you throw 20 or 30 people in prison the rest will fall in line.

So are you trolling us or do you really think that $#@!?

[Brian4Liberty]

https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/1700585740340752734

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/st...75110350897157


https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/st...75988776607785


https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/st...76998551073247

[Theocrat]

"If it takes an emergency to suspend the Constitution, then politicians will continue declaring emergencies to suspend the Constitution."

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/st...62012793602113
& https://twitter.com/galenmaskin/stat...72569274118635


https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/st...74706972098823

[Brian4Liberty]

https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/1700609814223900978

[Anti Globalist]

So are the people of New Mexico going to drag this woman out of her home and give her a good tar and feathering or will they just stand around like a bunch of pissants? I'm guessing it's going to be the latter.

[Brian4Liberty]

Interesting...

https://twitter.com/SaysSimonson/sta...05009619005485

[Anti Globalist]

Where the $#@! is the "Outrage Press" on this?

Doubtful MSM will be outraged about this since we all know this is exactly what they support.

[Brian4Liberty]

Apparently, gun bans should happen at the Federal level...

https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/1700620486395519169

[69360]

Jesus Christ what the hell is the matter with you?

That's what you were saying about the Jan 6 politicals before they started getting sent to prison for decades.

Why is it "not" enforceable?

New Mexico is not a constitutional carry state.

Your "permit" status comes up if a state cop runs your plates.

No problem to pull you over and toss you and your vehicle for "illegal carry".

Or, just throw up some random checkpoints and roadblocks, a daily occurrence all across the land of the free, randomly search people.

Once you throw 20 or 30 people in prison the rest will fall in line.

So are you trolling us or do you really think that $#@!?

It will never hold up in court. Everyone knows that. Yes, they may jail a few people short term if they can even get law enforcement to follow it, which it seems they will not. I'm not particulary concerned about it.