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    ***OFFICIAL*** RNC primary debate thread (Wednesday, 23 August 2023)

    This is the officially ***OFFICIAL*** thread.

    Date & Time: Wednesday, 23 August 2023 @ 8:00 PM CDT

    Location: Milwaukee WI

    Moderators: Bret Baier & Martha MacCallum (Fox News Channel)

    Livestreams:


    Participants:

    • Doug Burgum
    • Chris Christie
    • Ron DeSantis
    • Nikki Haley
    • Asa Hutchinson
    • Mike Pence
    • Vivek Ramaswamy
    • Tim Scott

    DeSantis and Ramaswamy will be center stage.

    Fox News Republican Presidential Primary Debate
    The first Republican Presidential Primary Debate hosted by Fox News, with partners Rumble and Young America’s Foundation, live from the Fiserv Forum in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
    https://rumble.com/v3ak5c2-fox-news-...ry-debate.html
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 08-23-2023 at 06:38 PM.
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    I have to work tomorrow.

    Should I quit my job so I can watch this?

    WWTTD What would The_Texan do?
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

    We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

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    I would love to see the candidates grilled concerning the bad votes/policies that truly affect the people and this country. But, I am sure that it will be very civil, respectful and not meant to purposely embarrass anybody at the podium.

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    Not watching the debates or listening to Trump's interview with Tucker. Neither of them are worth my time.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    The debate is gonna be a warmongering neocon-fest with Bill Kristol advertising support for the war during commercial breaks.



    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 08-22-2023 at 10:25 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

    We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    I have to work tomorrow.

    Should I quit my job so I can watch this?

    WWTTD What would The_Texan do?
    You have a duty to your country to be an informed voter. I doubt your job is more important than your duty to your country.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

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    My money is on Chris Christie to win the debate. He's the biggest threat to Trump, and a well rounded candidate in general
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    You have a duty to your country to be an informed voter. I doubt your job is more important than your duty to your country.
    It's impossible to vote hard if not informed hard.
    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
    ― George Orwell, 1984

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    Good advice in this thread. I'm gonna ask my boss for a compromise and watch the debate on my phone while I'm supposed to be working.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

    We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

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    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 08-23-2023 at 12:06 PM.

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    RNC Debates, Who Has The Most Skeletons & Trump Tucker Power Play With Luke Rudkowski
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    Live from Milwaukee! The RNC Debates Tonight AND MORE! Viva Frei Live!
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    Ron Paul Liberty Report | What You WON'T Hear In Tonight's GOP Debate
    There will be many jabs and many one-liners and many hollow promises made as eight GOP contenders - minus Trump - take the debate stage. But there are some things you are guaranteed to NOT hear tonight... Also today: Pentagon plays the blame Ukraine game.
    https://rumble.com/v3auv2w-what-you-...op-debate.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Bret the Neocon Baier and an establishment veteran from the MSM networks.

    Should get some real tough questions from them.
    I bet Christie will enjoy it a lot, for all the good it will do him.
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    Where are the best bingo cards?
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    I want to know if any of them are for tax payer funded abortions for male to female trans. Julien Castro got a standing O in the 2020 DNC debate and I see the answer to this question great for establishing who is sane and who is insane.
    ...

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    The real debate will be on X @ 8:55pm

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    Added to OP

    Fox News Republican Presidential Primary Debate
    The first Republican Presidential Primary Debate hosted by Fox News, with partners Rumble and Young America’s Foundation, live from the Fiserv Forum in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
    https://rumble.com/v3ak5c2-fox-news-...ry-debate.html
    [... video embedded @ OP (this post) ...]
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 08-23-2023 at 06:39 PM.

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    I have a thing that night. Damn.

    But I’m pretty sure that if there’s anything the least worthy of note to be found in the bloviations emanating from Milwaukee, somebdy here will catch and post it.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    I have a thing that night. Damn.
    I already washed my hair today. (I guess I should've planned ahead.)

    But I do confess to being mildly curious as to what level of TDS will be manifested, by whom, and in what manner.

    Who will kiss Trump's ass? Who will (try to) kick it? That sort of thing.

    Purely for entertainment purposes, of course. (And yes, I am that easily amused.)

    Christie should account for a bowl or two of popcorn all by himself.

    In any case, it's apt to be more interesting than watching Trump aggrandize himself while Tucker avoids asking him any really tough questions.

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    Ron Paul's Revolution...

    Looks familiar...

    Rand Paul for Peace

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    WeAreChange | Live at the Republican Presidential Debates
    Luke Rudowski with Viva Frei, Jeremy "The Quartering" Hambly , and Martha Bueno
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    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 08-23-2023 at 06:45 PM.



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    Asa Hutchinson is wearing his Israel pin. Good doggy.
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    I can't believe Chris Christy brought a bucket of KFC on the podium
    ...

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    Strong, but mostly rehearsed opening by DeSantis. Next up is Chris Christie, who has apparently been promoted to second place.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Vivek giving his rehearsed opening statement. They oddly zoomed out in the middle.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Nikki Haley hitting it out of the ballpark on spending.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Mike Pence feeling left out, finally gets to speak. Giving his prepared opening statement.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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