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  1. #91
    Remy: It's Raining Men (Boeing Parody)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf8LkBWEEQ8
    {Remy Music Videos | 29 March 2024}

    Boeing throws conventional wisdom out the window, among other things.




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    https://twitter.com/ClownWorld_/stat...34889634758889



    Good thing Home Despot piss tests prospective hires. They might employ some real losers if they didn't...

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  5. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    https://twitter.com/ClownWorld_/stat...34889634758889



    Good thing Home Despot piss tests prospective hires. They might employ some real losers if they didn't...
    Lol that's hilarious, they don't know where the left handed hammers are
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  6. #95
    THREAD: Suicide Mission: What Boeing did to all the guys who remember how to build a plane

    [...]

    But Swampy was mired in an institution that was in a perpetual state of unlearning all the lessons it had absorbed over a 90-year ascent to the pinnacle of global manufacturing. Like most neoliberal institutions, Boeing had come under the spell of a seductive new theory of “knowledge” that essentially reduced the whole concept to a combination of intellectual property, trade secrets, and data, discarding “thought” and “understanding” and “complex reasoning” possessed by a skilled and experienced workforce as essentially not worth the increased health care costs. CEO Jim McNerney, who joined Boeing in 2005, had last helmed 3M, where management as he saw it had “overvalued experience and undervalued leadership” before he purged the veterans into early retirement.

    [...]
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 04-14-2024 at 12:07 AM.

  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Lol that's hilarious, they don't know where the left handed hammers are
    Bet they don't know where the pipe stretchers are, either.



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  9. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Bet they don't know where the pipe stretchers are, either.

    Aren't those right next to the wire stretchers for electricians?
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

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  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Aren't those right next to the wire stretchers for electricians?
    Oh yeah, usually.

    When I started out as a ditch laborer, the plumbers got me on that one. It didn't sound quite right to me, but I went and rooted around in the gang box for about 5 minutes. Then i just came back to the ditch and said, "f**k you guys", then we had a good laugh and then I was in. LOL

  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Oh yeah, usually.

    When I started out as a ditch laborer, the plumbers got me on that one. It didn't sound quite right to me, but I went and rooted around in the gang box for about 5 minutes. Then i just came back to the ditch and said, "f**k you guys", then we had a good laugh and then I was in. LOL

    Back in the 1980s I was helping my dad remodel a small apartment building he and mom had bought. One of my sons was helping out one day too. We were stringing electrical wire to and from new panel boxes we’d installed. I, of course was much to old and way too experienced in dad’s warped sense of humor to fall for it, so my dad sent my son out to the truck for avwire stretcher. Wackiness ensued.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  12. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Back in the 1980s I was helping my dad remodel a small apartment building he and mom had bought. One of my sons was helping out one day too. We were stringing electrical wire to and from new panel boxes we’d installed. I, of course was much to old and way too experienced in dad’s warped sense of humor to fall for it, so my dad sent my son out to the truck for avwire stretcher. Wackiness ensued.
    There's always time for shenanigans on the job site! How long did it take him to get back?

  13. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    There's always time for shenanigans on the job site! How long did it take him to get back?

    As I recall, he was back within a few minutes asking what the hell a wire stretcher was and what it looked like. So dad told him but by then he was getting a bit suspicious so we eventually let the cat out of the bag and told him the gag. He was less than amused, which made it even funnier.

    Dad could do that $#@! with a totally straight face btw.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  14. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    As I recall, he was back within a few minutes asking what the hell a wire stretcher was and what it looked like. So dad told him but by then he was getting a bit suspicious so we eventually let the cat out of the bag and told him the gag. He was less than amused, which made it even funnier.

    Dad could do that $#@! with a totally straight face btw.

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  16. #104
    https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1789042293208395912




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  19. #106
    https://x.com/AntiFeder1776/status/1844776578426736670

    The whole narrative is absurd on its face - at the same time the USA was both founded on White supremacy, slavery, and genocide, yet always meant to be a place that infinity Africans, Indians, and South Americans could come for a "better life"? - Unknown

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    https://x.com/alexxwisemann/status/1830667388234408326

  22. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://x.com/alexxwisemann/status/1830667388234408326
    They hate you.

    They mock and scorn the people that do the jobs that keep their sorry asses alive.

    I wonder why that is, "Wiseman"?
    The whole narrative is absurd on its face - at the same time the USA was both founded on White supremacy, slavery, and genocide, yet always meant to be a place that infinity Africans, Indians, and South Americans could come for a "better life"? - Unknown

  23. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    The whole narrative is absurd on its face - at the same time the USA was both founded on White supremacy, slavery, and genocide, yet always meant to be a place that infinity Africans, Indians, and South Americans could come for a "better life"? - Unknown

  24. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    So, bottom line...


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  25. #112
    As LA burns, the mayor is off in Africa attending the Ghanan presidential inauguration.

    And the queeer female fire chief can't get water on some of the fires because the hydrants are dry.

    But never you mind about that, there are more coloreds and queeers to mill about smartly in turnout gear as your multi million dollar Malibu home burns down.


    Live Updates: 3 Simultaneous Wildfires Threaten Lives, Homes in Los Angeles

    https://www.breitbart.com/weather/20...n-los-angeles/

    8:35 AM — The Pacific Palisades disaster has renewed attention on the identity politics of Kristin Crowley, the first woman (and the first ***** woman) to serve as LAFD Fire Chief. Crowley was sworn in to her post in March of 2022, and she and Mayor Eric Garcetti established a Diversity, Equity & Inclusion (DEI) Bureau in January 2023.

    8:30 AM — Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass is currently absent from her city, nation, and continent. Via Breitbart News:

    Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass spent Tuesday in Africa as part of a taxpayer-funded delegation attending the inauguration of John Dramani Mahama as Ghana’s president. The Democrat was there as her city battled wildfires and thousands of residents fled for their lives.

    8:23 AM — Businessman and former L.A. mayoral candidate Rick Caruso says the Pacific Palisades area has no water in the hydrants at the moment, accusing the local government of mismanaging resources like a “third-world country.”



    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1876862583929553137

    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 01-08-2025 at 08:57 AM.
    The whole narrative is absurd on its face - at the same time the USA was both founded on White supremacy, slavery, and genocide, yet always meant to be a place that infinity Africans, Indians, and South Americans could come for a "better life"? - Unknown



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  27. #113
    https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1876997609706893568

    The whole narrative is absurd on its face - at the same time the USA was both founded on White supremacy, slavery, and genocide, yet always meant to be a place that infinity Africans, Indians, and South Americans could come for a "better life"? - Unknown

  28. #114
    https://x.com/ASimplePatriot/status/1877010586539524313

    The whole narrative is absurd on its face - at the same time the USA was both founded on White supremacy, slavery, and genocide, yet always meant to be a place that infinity Africans, Indians, and South Americans could come for a "better life"? - Unknown

  29. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    As LA burns, the mayor is off in Africa attending the Ghanan presidential inauguration.

    And the queeer female fire chief can't get water on some of the fires because the hydrants are dry.

    But never you mind about that, there are more coloreds and queeers to mill about smartly in turnout gear as your multi million dollar Malibu home burns down.


    Live Updates: 3 Simultaneous Wildfires Threaten Lives, Homes in Los Angeles
    https://www.breitbart.com/weather/20...n-los-angeles/

    8:35 AM — The Pacific Palisades disaster has renewed attention on the identity politics of Kristin Crowley, the first woman (and the first ***** woman) to serve as LAFD Fire Chief. Crowley was sworn in to her post in March of 2022, and she and Mayor Eric Garcetti established a Diversity, Equity & Inclusion (DEI) Bureau in January 2023.

    [...]
    THREAD: Los Angeles Fire 2025

  30. #116
    A great thread.


    Chad Crowley @ CCrowley100

    7/ An Addendum (As I often provide for clarification)

    This essay was a brief exploration of Joseph Tainter's "The Collapse of Complex Societies," alongside my analysis of the reigning liberal-humanist ideology in the West, its role in demographic transformation, and how these dynamics contribute to systemic fragility. It is not intended to be exhaustive or conclusive.

    On X, I often discuss books and ideas that I don’t fully agree with, drawing my own conclusions, as any critical reader should. While I don’t align with every aspect of Tainter’s work, his overriding thesis rings true: complex societies collapse when the costs of maintaining their complexity outpace their ability to solve problems. Given that our world is the most interconnected and technologized in human history, his insights remain strikingly relevant.

    It’s worth noting that Tainter wrote this book in 1988, and much of what he foresaw has now become our reality.

    In the replies and reposts, most responses fall into one of two camps, either agreeing with the larger point or critiquing it.

    For the latter, two recurring misconceptions dominate:

    1. The Pilot and the First Tweet

    Some are fixated on the helicopter footage, insisting the pilot isn’t to blame. But this entirely misses the point. The video wasn’t about the pilot; it was a visual shorthand, necessary on a platform like X, to draw attention. It represents systemic failure decades in the making—failure rooted in decayed leadership, crumbling infrastructure, and misplaced priorities.

    Whether the pilot was doing his best within a broken system or is the product of DEI-driven hiring is ultimately irrelevant. The clip serves as a visceral reminder of what happens when a society’s capacity to maintain basic functionality erodes. It’s not about one individual’s actions but the larger decay that leaves a helicopter missing its mark as an emblem of collapse.

    Naturally, the forces of Mother Nature play a role—as they always have and always will. Factors like erratic wind patterns, thermal turbulence, the inherent difficulty of aerial firefighting, etc., all complicate such efforts. Yet the question remains: is a society equipped to adapt and overcome these challenges, or does it succumb to its own self-inflicted fragility, leaving technical obstacles as insurmountable failures rather than manageable hurdles?

    2. Policy Mismanagement

    The other camp focuses on "policy mismanagement," claiming it as the root cause. This is a classic example of missing the forest for the trees. Tainter’s work isn’t a catalog of policy blunders; it’s a meta-analysis of civilizational collapse, spanning 18 vastly different societies across history. His purpose is to uncover the deeper patterns that arise when societies become too complex to sustain themselves.

    Policy mismanagement is not the cause—it’s a symptom. As Tainter demonstrates, collapse occurs when the diminishing returns on complexity lead systems designed to solve problems to become the problems themselves. A society consumed by inefficiency, symbolic gestures, and ideological pretense is incapable of adapting to the practical demands of survival.

    Focusing on isolated issues like brush management or fire zone construction obscures the broader reality: a system so unwieldy and preoccupied with maintaining appearances that it can no longer deliver meaningful solutions. The priorities are misplaced, the vision myopic, and the result predictable.

    Tainter’s central message is that civilizations do not collapse due to isolated missteps—such as flawed policies, which ultimately reflect the values and priorities of a society and its elites—but because they become trapped by their own complexity, unable to address the fundamental realities needed for their survival.

    Our current crises—whether in infrastructure, governance, or demography—are not isolated aberrations or events, they are the symptoms of a system that has prioritized ideological conformity and bureaucratic bloat over competence and survival.

    The lesson is clear: without a return to practical, grounded solutions and the political will to confront uncomfortable truths, we risk joining the ranks of civilizations that collapsed under the weight of their own pretenses.

    https://x.com/CCrowley100/status/1877559663555674612



    The whole narrative is absurd on its face - at the same time the USA was both founded on White supremacy, slavery, and genocide, yet always meant to be a place that infinity Africans, Indians, and South Americans could come for a "better life"? - Unknown

  31. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    A great thread.

    Chad Crowley @ CCrowley100

    [...]
    THREAD: The collapse of complex societies

  32. #118
    https://x.com/Will_Tanner_1/status/1878622998695145608

    The whole narrative is absurd on its face - at the same time the USA was both founded on White supremacy, slavery, and genocide, yet always meant to be a place that infinity Africans, Indians, and South Americans could come for a "better life"? - Unknown

  33. #119
    Baltimore School Replaces Toilets With Buckets
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Icii0VsEk
    {Actual Justice Warrior | 19 January 2025}

    In this video, I discuss the recent controversy In Baltimore schools that occurred after the water shut down & the principal decided the solution was to put buckets in the bathrooms for the students.

    Sources:


  34. #120
    The whole narrative is absurd on its face - at the same time the USA was both founded on White supremacy, slavery, and genocide, yet always meant to be a place that infinity Africans, Indians, and South Americans could come for a "better life"? - Unknown



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