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    Trump supporter Ray Epps sues Fox News for defamation over Jan. 6 "falsehoods"

    Fox News was sued for defamation Wednesday by Trump supporter Ray Epps, who alleges the network and host Tucker Carlson spread a "fantastical story" about him.

    Driving the news: Epps, who emerged at the center of right-wing conspiracy theories after he participated in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, accuses Fox News and Carlson in his lawsuit of "spreading falsehoods" that he was an undercover FBI agent and was responsible for inciting the riot.

    "Just as Fox had focused on voting machine companies when falsely claiming a rigged election, Fox knew it needed a scapegoat for January 6th," the complaint states.

    "It settled on Ray Epps and began promoting the lie that Epps was a federal agent who incited the attack on the Capitol."

    The lawsuit alleges that Carlson "commenced a years-long campaign spreading falsehoods about Epps."

    Fox News did not immediately respond to Axios' request for comment.
    https://www.axios.com/2023/07/12/ray...famation-jan-6
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    Funny how despite video evidence showing this turkey inciting violence the FBI never arrested him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Funny how despite video evidence showing this turkey inciting violence the FBI never arrested him.
    What are you going to believe? A lawsuit against lying Fox News and evil Tucker Carlson, or your own eyes?
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    Ray Epps To Be Criminally Charged For Events On January 6, His Attorney Says


    Jul 12, 2023

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/ray-e...-attorney-says

    “Finally, in May 2023, the Department of Justice notified Epps that it would seek to charge him criminally for events on January 6, 2021—two-and-a-half years later,” the lawsuit said. “The relentless attacks by Fox and Mr. Carlson and the resulting political pressure likely resulted in the criminal charges.”
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    "Trump supporter Ray Epps..." LMAO. If Ray Epps is a Trump supporter, I am Mary Poppins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    "Trump supporter Ray Epps..." LMAO. If Ray Epps is a Trump supporter, I am Mary Poppins.
    And I'm Rhonda Santis.
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    So, he's suing Fox for saying he's a federal agent, when he says in reality he's a rioter.

    So, this is a defamation suit? It's now not only an insult, but a societal and/or professional hardship for a mere rioter to be thought a Fed? That's damaging?
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    ...sad that this man's greatness is defined by the hatred he attracts and this is why Americans love him.

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    My, how low Washington has sunk that people would rather be mistaken for a rioter--indeed, an insurrectionist--than a Fed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    My, how low Washington has sunk that people would rather be mistaken for a rioter--indeed, an insurrectionist--than a Fed.
    being a fed has more future career limitations than a mere rioter
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Ray Epps To Be Criminally Charged For Events On January 6, His Attorney Says


    Jul 12, 2023

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/ray-e...-attorney-says

    “Finally, in May 2023, the Department of Justice notified Epps that it would seek to charge him criminally for events on January 6, 2021—two-and-a-half years later,” the lawsuit said. “The relentless attacks by Fox and Mr. Carlson and the resulting political pressure likely resulted in the criminal charges.”
    “The relentless attacks by Fox and Mr. Carlson and the resulting political pressure likely resulted in the criminal charges."

    LMAO

    Or could it be the fact that the defendants in Epps' civil defamation suit (see the OP article) will be able conduct extensive discovery and depositions of various witnesses, et al.?

    "The feds decided to throw Epps under the bus to cover their asses" seems like a far more likely scenario than any "the feds were pressured into doing it because 'Tucker Carlson'" bull$#@! (especially given the proximate timing of these two stories).
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    "Trump supporter Ray Epps..." LMAO. If Ray Epps is a Trump supporter, I am Mary Poppins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    So, he's suing Fox for saying he's a federal agent, when he says in reality he's a rioter.

    So, this is a defamation suit? It's now not only an insult, but a societal and/or professional hardship for a mere rioter to be thought a Fed? That's damaging?
    When Tucker tells chuds that you're the enemy, the chuds act on that.
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    When Tucker tells chuds that you're the enemy, the chuds act on that.
    When the video evidence shows you are inciting violence yet you never get arrested for it....you're the enemy.
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    When the video evidence shows you are inciting violence yet you never get arrested for it....you're the enemy.
    Did you act on that?
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    There's something seriously wrong with you if you believe Ray Epps was an actual legitimate Trump supporter.
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    I don't actually think they're going to prosecute one of their own unless they already know how the trial will go. I think this is going to end up being more of a retirement than a sentencing.
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    This is getting silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    When Tucker tells chuds that you're the enemy, the chuds act on that.
    Do they?

    More importantly, did they? Have they?

    Why do they act? Because they have white supremacy?

    Do you expect him to walk into court and tell the judge, I need damages because TheCount told me chuds are going to act, and I'm scared?

    Should he get money from Fox for that, or from you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Do they?
    Yes.

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    More importantly, did they? Have they?
    Yes.

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    Why do they act? Because they have white supremacy?
    Because they have sad, empty lives and playing saturday morning cartoon make believe is the only way that they can find meaning in their existence.

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    Do you expect him to walk into court and tell the judge, I need damages because TheCount told me chuds are going to act, and I'm scared?
    No, he'll probably just list the death threats he's received.

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    Should he get money from Fox for that
    Yes, if proven in a court of law

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    , or from you?
    After seeing the huge money that Dominion got, his lawyers are probably doing this purely on a profit sharing basis, but sure, I'll chip in to crowd fund his lawsuit. Will you join me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Will you join me?
    Quote Originally Posted by wizardwatson View Post
    ...sad that this man's greatness is defined by the hatred he attracts and this is why Americans love him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...
    Yes, if proven in a court of law
    ...
    And no, if not proven in a court of law?


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    After seeing the huge money that Dominion got, his lawyers are probably doing this purely on a profit sharing basis, but sure, I'll chip in to crowd fund his lawsuit. Will you join me?
    How much did you throw away?


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    BREAKING: Judge dismisses Ray Epps’ lawsuit against Tucker Carlson and Fox News.

    Mediaite: "Fox argued that hosts were perfectly within their rights to question Epps receiving no jail time while others involved in Jan. 6 were hit with much harsher sentences.

    ‘Even if Fox hosts implied a factual conclusion about Plaintiff, it reflected only their interpretations based on disclosed facts,’ Fox previously argued."

    NYT: "Fox fought the defamation claims by arguing in court papers that they were ‘a direct attack on the First Amendment.’ Moreover, the lawyers — among them, Patrick F. Philbin, who once served as Mr. Trump’s deputy White House counsel — maintained that Mr. Carlson, in his on-air remarks about Mr. Epps, had not been acting with malice but was merely offering opinions.

    Judge Hall agreed with much of this, noting that guests whom Mr. Carlson brought on his show to discuss Mr. Epps — including the right-wing journalist Darren Beattie — were simply airing their ‘own commentary and opinions.’"

    This raises the question of why Fox News didn’t fight the Dominion lawsuit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    And no, if not proven in a court of law?




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    Can we get the title of this thread changed to remove the "Trump supporter" lie?
    Epps is a fed provocateur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Can we get the title of this thread changed to remove the "Trump supporter" lie?
    Epps is a fed provocateur.
    Agreed.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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