Gavin Newsom proposes constitutional amendment to restrict gun rights
Newsom says a constitutional amendment is needed to enact commonsense gun safety laws supported by the American people
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new...ict-gun-rights
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It is absolutely baffling to me that ANYONE would wish to empower someone who has so blatantly and arrogantly abused the power of his political office with the ability to remove from the people their right to self-defense... this is just really, really basic stuff. The guy who is telling you do NOT go outside, but if you must, you must where a mask and meet all of these certain qualifications... meanwhile I'll be eating dinner at California's most exclusive and expensive restaurant with 20 of my close friends, mask free. What the actual f**k has happened to people that they would listen to this pig?Originally Posted by Matt Collins
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NEW: I’m proposing the 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution to help end our nation’s gun violence crisis.
The American people are sick of Congress’ inaction.
The 28th will enshrine 4 widely supported gun safety freedoms -- while leaving the 2nd Amendment intact:
1) Raising the minimum age to purchase a gun to 21
2) Universal background checks
3) A reasonable waiting period for gun purchases
4) Banning the civilian purchase of assault weapons
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Right. Unfortunately, people will vote for that kind of bull$#@!. Because it sounds reasonable.while leaving the 2nd Amendment intact:
(lets see)
1) Raising the minimum age to purchase a gun to 21
Is there a minimum age according to the constitution ? I don't know, sorry if ignorant.
2) Universal background checks
If you do background checks they should be universal. But I think the general point is that if you read the simple words written down in the constitution it doesn't work that way.
3) A reasonable waiting period for gun purchases
Here he has a good point. This could be reduced.
4) Banning the civilian purchase of assault weapons
A weapon only becomes an assault weapon when it's used in an assault. Otherwise it's just a weapon that can be used offensively or defensively.
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All the proof one needs to see that a Constitutional Convention is a bad idea.
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I agree with you on opposing the ConCon, but not for that reason. My concern is that it will lead to a BBA which would legalize what is not already (aside from the fact they they do it anyway).
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He can propose all he wants. That would not be ratified.
Maybe.... do you think the 2nd Amendment could be ratified today? No, of course not. Hell, only half the states have some form of permitless carry and it's like pulling teeth to get most of them to pass just even that.
So all of these anti-freedom ideas need to be shot down as soon as possible so that they don't grow legs.
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I oppose even states age limits on purchase and possession of firearms and munitions , by todays standards i wouldve been in violation of many states laws just putting meat on the table as a youngster. wtf happened to the american spirit ? its a banana republic with no bananas. just rule of law that only applies to some , a worthless currency , inflation , debt , a floundering gdp and endless laws of $#@! made by $#@!tards. Shall not be infringed , gimme a BAR.
Do something Danke
And then when he gets elected in 2028, and one of his first acts is to ban guns in some fashions people will be:
"I didn't know he was going to do that???"
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He has a D and the MSM behind him. The sheeple blindly follow.
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What if it did become "ratified"? Will you obey the dictate? Wait for a "R" politician to defend/protect you, or a panel of rule-by-5 to "restore" your God-given right?
What will you do?
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It will depend on the details. It's a complete hypothetical.
But I know for a fact the government will not go door-to-door to confiscate guns. What they may do however is just over tax them, make them impossible to buy/sell/trade/transport, etc.
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Impossible would be taxing them once it goes black market ;-)
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I think you may see civil war if this proposed ammendment was ratified. At the very least red state governors would refuse to enforce it in the way that blue state governmors don't enforce federal weed laws.
What makes this even worse is that he's likely the next Democratic nominee next presidential election cycle.
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There is 0% chance of passing this amendment. He will make this a central plank of his campaign to run for president on. It is simply a theme to gain the anti-gun vote.
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I am a libertarian. I am advocating everyone enjoy maximum freedom on both personal and economic issues as long as they do not bring violence unto others.
Amend this.
"An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.
"To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."
Every time one negotiates, compromises, counters with opposing legislation (which further legitimizes the state and/or anti-gun crowd), steps are taken back. There is a thing called civil disobedience. If they all wise up, one day, they will all stand together and just say "f&ck off, we ain't debating or playing in your sand box anymore".
There are already laws on the books pertaining to injury to person and property. Everything else is just another Red Flag.
Matt, instead of looking to stave off via legislation [permission], how about rally all of the people you come into contact with and put the idea into their heads that debate is now over.
A resident was going through a court battle concerning property rights and established ordinances. After a year of legal fees and numerous court appearances, a whole lot of folks (including our liberty group) got together and crowded the entire court room with lines outside. It was only then that the judge threw the case out and dismissed it.
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Because it doesn't usually work like that... If you can organize and turn out a crowd you can apply pressure to the politicians which often can indeed make a difference. But not everywhere all the time. And also on most issues you don't get enough people to turn out. Even here in FL gun owners were unable to stop Rick Scott's red flag law. Or demand full Constitutional Carry. And in TN their Governor is about to ram through red flag laws there too. Unsure whether it's going to be stopped.
Point being is that to get people mad enough to do something about it, is very rare. Sometimes it happens, but it is hard work and rare. Killing legislation is the lowest hanging fruit because legislators are usually nervous about angering groups of voters. Getting legislation passed is very difficult because a lot of stars have to align. A lot of it depends on the political environment in conjunction with doing the right things strategically and tactically. Often times political causes take a decade or more to pass even at the state level.
Sometimes you can get a few dozen people to show up to a local government meeting or a congressional town hall and make a difference. But not always. And even if you do, will that same amount of people will have no effect on the legislature or the federal Congress; you have to increase it by an order of magnitude or more. That's not easy, and thankfully by design. But being hard has obvious downsides too.
If you can cause politicians political pain, specifically electoral pain, that is usually where they are most responsive. Again that doesn't even mean defeating them in their reelection, but forcing them to fight for ground they consider theirs. If they know that by casting a vote for or against X it could cost them the upcoming election, then they likely will not pursue that action. Incumbents don't like to work to get reelected; simply forcing them to work can be enough political pain to change their behavior on specific pieces of policy.
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Leftists are terrorists and are not to be negotiated with.
Do something Danke
Boy, that was a lot of words. If/when it does go down, I doubt the hard-core gun folk like me are going to worry about any of that.
Nice try, though. But don't worry. While you guys are playing "which side writes the most eloquent sounding bills", we'll have your back ;-)
Right @Anti Federalist ?
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